Does FÃ«anor himself appear in one of the movies, or something? - Page 3

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 04-11-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

Probably not. I read this almost 30 years ago. But wasn't Hurin tortured and forced to watch his kids get into trouble, and collected cursed treasure to offend Thingol. Turin's dad? Or is that from the more recent books?

They were all nimrods.

Hurin defied Morgoth to his face and Morgoth cursed his family. He retrieved the Nauglamir from Nargothrond and gave it to Thingol, but that wasn't a cursed piece of jewelry. It would have been a fine gift had Thingol not got it into his muddled head to have the Silmaril mounted in it. Got himself and his grandson killed over it, but on the plus side Luthien was HOTT while wearing it.

Long story short, none of the things that happened were Hurin's fault. He was a great hero. His son let him down but a lot of that was Morgoth's doing, too.

How does one go 30 years between Silmarillion readings? I can't go a week without reading or listening to some part of it. I admire your self control.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 04-11-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordis

Hmm. I rather like what Turin did to Saeros.

There are some Elves I would have liked to see treated in a similar way...

It was actually quite comical, IMO, until the dope decided to fall into a ravine.

Curufin · 04-11-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dread Pirate Roberts

It was actually quite comical, IMO, until the dope decided to fall into a ravine.

I think it was quite cruel and uncalled for, actually.

Gordis · 04-11-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Curufin

Thingol?

Nay, mostly Gildor Inglorion and Legolas

Curufin · 04-11-2008, 03:17 PM

LEAVE GILDOR ALONE!!!! *hugs Gildor* He's my favorite Elf in LotR.

You can do whatever you like to the other one.

Gordis · 04-11-2008, 03:18 PM

And Glorfindel - yeah - him first and foremost!

Curufin · 04-11-2008, 03:21 PM

*hugs Gildor and Glorfindel* (now you're after my top TWO elves in LotR)

Stay away from them, you nasty NazgÃºl.

Gordis · 04-11-2008, 03:30 PM

Gildor is actually the reason why I sort of dislike all Elves. I hated Gildor on my first LOTR reading and still dislike him (though now I understand his reasons better). After reading Silm, I have mellowed towards Elves in general, but there are some LOTR ones that I still can't stand.

And... Did I mention Galadriel? Now making her play Saeros would be fun.

I remember I read a fanfic where Khamul took Lorien and had Galadriel's head shaved... A balm to my nazgul heart

***Earniel*** · 04-11-2008, 03:35 PM

Please stay on topic.

***RÃan*** · 04-11-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordis

I remember I read a fanfic where Khamul took Lorien and had Galadriel's head shaved... A balm to my nazgul heart

ROFL!!

(oh, the rabbit trails are the best parts of the theads!!

)

OK, um, yeah, Turin's a whiny twit (oh wait, that's not the thread title)

***RÃan*** · 04-11-2008, 04:04 PM

*looks at opening post*

That looks like kind of an Elven version of ... who was that guy? Fabio?

katya · 04-11-2008, 05:27 PM

Hahahahaha that's hilarious, RÃ*an! I mean blasphemous. Yeah.

http://www.celebritycowboy.com/wp-co...7/11/fabio.jpg

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 04-11-2008, 05:37 PM

That's the root of Feanor's problems. He can't believe it's not butter!

***RÃan*** · 04-11-2008, 05:41 PM

Lol!

Curufin · 04-11-2008, 05:52 PM

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That's the root of Feanor's problems. He can't believe it's not butter!

Heresy!

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 04-11-2008, 07:49 PM

So he does believe it's not butter?

Curufin · 04-11-2008, 07:56 PM

Of course. As would anyone who has tried the stuff.

sisterandcousinandaunt · 04-11-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dread Pirate Roberts

How does one go 30 years between Silmarillion readings? I can't go a week without reading or listening to some part of it. I admire your self control.

Yeah, well it struck me as derivative, chaotic, self-important and poorly written. And most of the characters were complete nimrods. Quite a bit of that I blame on the edit, of course. Most of us wouldn't benefit from having our random jottings and rough sketches codified. So, although I dutifully plow through the new ones as they arrive, and occasionally check back on a segment that appeals to me, my sins haven't been great enough that I felt the need to do the whole thing again.

My definition of 'great hero' doesn't overlap with medieval romance a lot. It's probably a style issue.

I know. I'm a complete apostate. I prefer 'strict constructionist',myself.

Curufin · 04-11-2008, 08:49 PM

*cough*

*sputter*

*gets out wood to burn the heretic*

*gets splinter*

Owww!

Well, maybe not. I'll let her be.

It is a matter of taste, though. I think The Silmarillion is one of those books you either love, or it's torture to get through. I consider myself lucky to be among the former.

sisterandcousinandaunt · 04-11-2008, 09:07 PM

I am sincerely touched by your restraint. Thanks.

Much of what interests me in the material has to do with specifically literary issues, and I find those subsumed by the emotional connections people make, which is great. Literature should move us, and this does.

04-11-2008, 03:17 PM	#45
Curufin The Ã‘oldÃ³ran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,050	LEAVE GILDOR ALONE!!!! hugs Gildor He's my favorite Elf in LotR. You can do whatever you like to the other one. __________________ Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian

04-11-2008, 03:18 PM	#46
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	And Glorfindel - yeah - him first and foremost! Last edited by Gordis : 04-11-2008 at 03:22 PM.

04-11-2008, 03:21 PM	#47
Curufin The Ã‘oldÃ³ran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,050	hugs Gildor and Glorfindel (now you're after my top TWO elves in LotR) Stay away from them, you nasty NazgÃºl. __________________ Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian

04-11-2008, 03:35 PM	#49
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Please stay on topic. __________________ We are not things.

04-11-2008, 04:04 PM	#51
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	looks at opening post That looks like kind of an Elven version of ... who was that guy? Fabio? __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

04-11-2008, 03:30 PM	#48
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Gildor is actually the reason why I sort of dislike all Elves. I hated Gildor on my first LOTR reading and still dislike him (though now I understand his reasons better). After reading Silm, I have mellowed towards Elves in general, but there are some LOTR ones that I still can't stand. And... Did I mention Galadriel? Now making her play Saeros would be fun. I remember I read a fanfic where Khamul took Lorien and had Galadriel's head shaved... A balm to my nazgul heart

04-11-2008, 05:27 PM	#52
katya Elven Maiden Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,309	Hahahahaha that's hilarious, RÃan! I mean blasphemous. Yeah. http://www.celebritycowboy.com/wp-co...7/11/fabio.jpg Last edited by katya : 04-11-2008 at 05:30 PM.*

04-11-2008, 05:37 PM	#53
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	That's the root of Feanor's problems. He can't believe it's not butter! __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

04-11-2008, 05:41 PM	#54
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Lol! __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

04-11-2008, 07:49 PM	#56
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	So he does believe it's not butter? __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

04-11-2008, 07:56 PM	#57
Curufin The Ã‘oldÃ³ran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,050	Of course. As would anyone who has tried the stuff. __________________ Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian

04-11-2008, 08:49 PM	#59
Curufin The Ã‘oldÃ³ran Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,050	cough sputter gets out wood to burn the heretic gets splinter Owww! Well, maybe not. I'll let her be. It is a matter of taste, though. I think The Silmarillion is one of those books you either love, or it's torture to get through. I consider myself lucky to be among the former. __________________ Then Celegorm no more would stay, And Curufin smiled and turned away... ~The Lay of Leithian

04-11-2008, 09:07 PM	#60
sisterandcousinandaunt Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,535	I am sincerely touched by your restraint. Thanks. Much of what interests me in the material has to do with specifically literary issues, and I find those subsumed by the emotional connections people make, which is great. Literature should move us, and this does. __________________ That would be the swirling vortex to another world. Cool. I want one. TMNT No, I'm not emo. I just have a really poor sense of direction. (Thanks to katya for this quote) This is the best news story EVER! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26087293/ â€œOften my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.â€...John McCain "I shall go back. And I shall find that therapist. And I shall whack her upside her head with my blanket full of rocks." ...Louisa May

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