Mercedes Lackey

TinuvielChild · 03-04-2002, 09:35 PM

I do not believe this: i don't think anyone has yet posted a Mercedes Lackey thread!! i used to consider her the best author in the world...of course, that was before i discovered terry pratchett, piers anthony, and jrr tolkien (not in that order

). i still read her books, especially the serrated edge and bedlam's bard ones. also among my favorites are: the serpent's shadow and the other one about rose and jason cameron, what was the title again??? and many of her valdemar tales.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-15-2002, 06:29 PM

Alas! For once I, too, read her books and loved them! But lately (read: two years ago) discovered greater authors and as for the Valdemar books, I can only look upon them with disdain. Sorry to anyone who is fan. . .actually, I mostly only read the Valdemar books, and I have a lot of them on my book shelf.
It's sort of amusing, having read LotR, to go back and read other books, and see all the things that were obviously taken from LotR. Anyone read Elvenbane, by M.L. and someone else (don't remember)? Evil, slave-holding elves. Ouch. Perhaps I am too harsh toward those who do not write as well as, say, JRRT, but that's just my current standing. I mean, I used to love M.L.'s books, so who am I to talk? Anyway, just felt like rambling endlessly there. . .But it would be nice to get a discussion going!

TinuvielChild · 03-29-2002, 12:44 PM

yeah, i used to love mercedes lackey, but then i discovered LotR...*sigh* now i consider ML terribly inferior, i'm sorry to say. and then i discovered, in her Valdemar books, Lake Evendim?? that's stolen from the Prof!!! how dare she?!!? whatever...*continues to ramble pointlessly about things in that vein for another 10 minutes, then abruptly shuts up*

yeah. whatever.

even though compared to JRRT, she is incredibly inferior, she is in her own right a good author.

<----- yaaay!! post # 333!!!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-29-2002, 04:04 PM

After a while, I wasn't too impressed by her writing even before I had read LotR. And so much is taken right out of LotR (the Hawk brothers--Lothlorien elves. . .although the hawk brothers are no where near as cool

) But I did like her writing before, I can't forget that! I liked the gryphons

TinuvielChild · 03-29-2002, 04:52 PM

yeah...after a while the Valdemar ones started getting really boring. Her SERRA-ted Edge books are pretty cool tho, and the Serpent's Shadow and the Fire Rose i loved.

TinuvielChild · 03-29-2002, 04:53 PM

hasn't tano read ML's books? invite her to come post on here, we need more people!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-29-2002, 04:53 PM

I haven't read any of those. . .just the Valdemar (and pre-Valdemar) stuff. What's your favorite of those books?

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-29-2002, 04:55 PM

Yeah, Tano has read all the Valdemar ones too. I'll tell her to join in the discussion when i see her today (We're gonna see LotR!! Yay!)

TinuvielChild · 03-29-2002, 04:55 PM

the serrated edge books do have elves, but they're not copied from LotR, they're taken from Irish mythology (the Sidhe, the Seleighe and Unseleighe Courts). her Di Tregarde books don't have elves at all, and they're good. The entire Valdemar series got pretty boring for me about 2 years ago, and the Elvenbane/Elvenblood thing got me bored 3 (or was it 4?) years ago.

TinuvielChild · 03-29-2002, 04:57 PM

ummm...i'm going to have to say..the Black, White, and Silver Gryphons, and the Owl's Flight, Sight, and Knight. ok! my brother is kicking me off the computer...*sigh*

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-30-2002, 03:05 AM

I really liked the Elvenbane (now, those elves are taken from Tolkien!) ones a few years ago, but then I read it again last year, and I thought it was absolutely horrendously written. Just my humble opinion, of course. . .

I liked the Gryphon books, and the Talia books, the first three Valdemar ones she wrote. Looking back I don't think they were that great, but I liked them a few years ago! I also liked the Magic's Price or whatever it was trilogy, but I can't say they were particularly well-written either.

I should look for those Serrated Edge books. . .

TinuvielChild · 03-30-2002, 09:06 PM

yeah, i tend to agree. i went back and reread those (Talia) recently because i liked the story line, and since i'm trying to write something myself, i was rather more critical of her writing style than i ought to have been. Some titles of the serrated edge books are: Born to Run, Chrome Circle, When the Bough Breaks, and Wheels of Fire. they also have 2 books that contain 2 each of the serrated edge: The Chrome Borne (Chrome Circle and Born to Run) and The Otherworld (Wheels of Fire and When the Bough Breaks). yeah, i love those, and the Bedlam's Bard series, which is Bedlam's Bard and Spirits White as Lightning and one i can't remember. they is lots of fun!!

TwirlingString · 04-15-2002, 06:46 PM

The serrated edge books are cool (most definately, you gave them to me) but I think I prefer her small series and those about Eric Banyon.

TinuvielChild · 04-15-2002, 07:53 PM

Eric Banyon = Bedlam's Bard

yes, they are most definitely wonderful.

Eowyn, The Lioness · 04-15-2002, 08:03 PM

Hmmm...Mercedes Lackey? I'll have to look into that; is she a fantasy author?

TwirlingString · 04-15-2002, 08:18 PM

Most definately, weelllll it depends. If your definition of sci-fi has to include aliens and space ships, then it isn't, but if it's just out-of-this-world stuff, then it is. She tends to right things that bare some similarities to real life (most noiably the Diana Tregarde), but adds elemnets that you always wished were there. Speaking of Di I really recomend Children of the Night, Jinx High, and Burning Waters.

TwirlingString · 04-15-2002, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf
I really liked the Elvenbane (now, those elves are taken from Tolkien!) ones a few years ago, but then I read it again last year, and I thought it was absolutely horrendously written. Just my humble opinion, of course. . .

I liked the Gryphon books, and the Talia books, the first three Valdemar ones she wrote. Looking back I don't think they were that great, but I liked them a few years ago! I also liked the Magic's Price or whatever it was trilogy, but I can't say they were particularly well-written either.

I should look for those Serrated Edge books. . .

I really like Elvenbane and ElvenBlood, but I can't find elvenborn!

TinuvielChild · 04-15-2002, 09:13 PM

Twirling, did you actually read Jinx high????

TinuvielChild · 04-15-2002, 09:16 PM

cuz that one's out of print and i've been trying to get my hands on it for AGES

TwirlingString · 04-15-2002, 09:37 PM

Did I recommend that one too, opps. I haven't read it and you know I haven't cuz Ida given it to you.

03-04-2002, 09:35 PM	#1
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	Mercedes Lackey I do not believe this: i don't think anyone has yet posted a Mercedes Lackey thread!! i used to consider her the best author in the world...of course, that was before i discovered terry pratchett, piers anthony, and jrr tolkien (not in that order). i still read her books, especially the serrated edge and bedlam's bard ones. also among my favorites are: the serpent's shadow and the other one about rose and jason cameron, what was the title again??? and many of her valdemar tales. __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

03-15-2002, 06:29 PM	#2
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Alas! For once I, too, read her books and loved them! But lately (read: two years ago) discovered greater authors and as for the Valdemar books, I can only look upon them with disdain. Sorry to anyone who is fan. . .actually, I mostly only read the Valdemar books, and I have a lot of them on my book shelf. It's sort of amusing, having read LotR, to go back and read other books, and see all the things that were obviously taken from LotR. Anyone read Elvenbane, by M.L. and someone else (don't remember)? Evil, slave-holding elves. Ouch. Perhaps I am too harsh toward those who do not write as well as, say, JRRT, but that's just my current standing. I mean, I used to love M.L.'s books, so who am I to talk? Anyway, just felt like rambling endlessly there. . .But it would be nice to get a discussion going! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-29-2002, 12:44 PM	#3
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	yeah, i used to love mercedes lackey, but then i discovered LotR...sigh now i consider ML terribly inferior, i'm sorry to say. and then i discovered, in her Valdemar books, Lake Evendim?? that's stolen from the Prof!!! how dare she?!!? whatever...continues to ramble pointlessly about things in that vein for another 10 minutes, then abruptly shuts up yeah. whatever. even though compared to JRRT, she is incredibly inferior, she is in her own right a good author. <----- yaaay!! post # 333!!! __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

03-29-2002, 04:04 PM	#4
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	After a while, I wasn't too impressed by her writing even before I had read LotR. And so much is taken right out of LotR (the Hawk brothers--Lothlorien elves. . .although the hawk brothers are no where near as cool ) But I did like her writing before, I can't forget that! I liked the gryphons __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-29-2002, 04:52 PM	#5
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	yeah...after a while the Valdemar ones started getting really boring. Her SERRA-ted Edge books are pretty cool tho, and the Serpent's Shadow and the Fire Rose i loved. __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

03-29-2002, 04:53 PM	#6
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	hasn't tano read ML's books? invite her to come post on here, we need more people! __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

03-29-2002, 04:55 PM	#8
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Yeah, Tano has read all the Valdemar ones too. I'll tell her to join in the discussion when i see her today (We're gonna see LotR!! Yay!) __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-29-2002, 04:57 PM	#10
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	ummm...i'm going to have to say..the Black, White, and Silver Gryphons, and the Owl's Flight, Sight, and Knight. ok! my brother is kicking me off the computer...sigh __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

03-30-2002, 03:05 AM	#11
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	I really liked the Elvenbane (now, those elves are taken from Tolkien!) ones a few years ago, but then I read it again last year, and I thought it was absolutely horrendously written. Just my humble opinion, of course. . . I liked the Gryphon books, and the Talia books, the first three Valdemar ones she wrote. Looking back I don't think they were that great, but I liked them a few years ago! I also liked the Magic's Price or whatever it was trilogy, but I can't say they were particularly well-written either. I should look for those Serrated Edge books. . . __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-30-2002, 09:06 PM	#12
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	yeah, i tend to agree. i went back and reread those (Talia) recently because i liked the story line, and since i'm trying to write something myself, i was rather more critical of her writing style than i ought to have been. Some titles of the serrated edge books are: Born to Run, Chrome Circle, When the Bough Breaks, and Wheels of Fire. they also have 2 books that contain 2 each of the serrated edge: The Chrome Borne (Chrome Circle and Born to Run) and The Otherworld (Wheels of Fire and When the Bough Breaks). yeah, i love those, and the Bedlam's Bard series, which is Bedlam's Bard and Spirits White as Lightning and one i can't remember. they is lots of fun!! __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

04-15-2002, 06:46 PM	#13
TwirlingString Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: My mother would say somewhere between the adult mystery section and the YA sci-fi Posts: 489	The serrated edge books are cool (most definately, you gave them to me) but I think I prefer her small series and those about Eric Banyon. __________________ "The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!”

04-15-2002, 07:53 PM	#14
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	Eric Banyon = Bedlam's Bard yes, they are most definitely wonderful. __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

04-15-2002, 08:03 PM	#15
Eowyn, The Lioness Enting Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: oh, somewhere... Posts: 81	Hmmm...Mercedes Lackey? I'll have to look into that; is she a fantasy author?

04-15-2002, 08:18 PM	#16
TwirlingString Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: My mother would say somewhere between the adult mystery section and the YA sci-fi Posts: 489	Most definately, weelllll it depends. If your definition of sci-fi has to include aliens and space ships, then it isn't, but if it's just out-of-this-world stuff, then it is. She tends to right things that bare some similarities to real life (most noiably the Diana Tregarde), but adds elemnets that you always wished were there. Speaking of Di I really recomend Children of the Night, Jinx High, and Burning Waters. __________________ "The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!”

04-15-2002, 09:13 PM	#18
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	Twirling, did you actually read Jinx high???? __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

04-15-2002, 09:16 PM	#19
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	cuz that one's out of print and i've been trying to get my hands on it for AGES __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

04-15-2002, 09:37 PM	#20
TwirlingString Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: My mother would say somewhere between the adult mystery section and the YA sci-fi Posts: 489	Did I recommend that one too, opps. I haven't read it and you know I haven't cuz Ida given it to you. __________________ "The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!”

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