the phial of galadriel

ArwenEvenstar · 09-01-2002, 07:51 PM

i didn't know if i should post this in LOTR or the sil

was the phial of Galadriel made out of a silmaril? and if it was which one???

Mirahzi · 09-01-2002, 08:01 PM

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'And you, Ring-bearer,' she said, turning to Frodo. 'I come to you last who are not last in my thoughts. For you I have prepared this.' She held up a small crystal phial: it glittered as she moved it, and rays of white light sprang from her hand. "In this phial,' she said, 'is caught the light of Earendil's star, set amid the waters of my fountain. It will shine still brighter when night is about you. May it be alight to you in dark places, when all other lights go out. Remember Galadriel and her Mirror!'
- Galadriel to Frodo

I believe 'Earendil's star' refers to the third Silmaril that was saved by the Mariner and his wife. The other two were lost.

Ñólendil · 09-01-2002, 09:50 PM

I don't know what the Phial was made out of, but it wasn't a Silmaril. It was filled with the light of the Evening Star, however.

Telperion · 09-01-2002, 10:27 PM

I seem to remember that Earendil recovered a Silmaril. If he did than when Galadriel says, "The light of Earendil" could she mean the light of the Silmaril that Earendil recovered?

Ñólendil · 09-02-2002, 12:42 AM

Yes. The myths of Middle-earth said that the Evening Star (which we call Venus) was actually the Silmaril that Beren stole, fastened to the prow of Eärendil's ship, who sails the Heavens on "an errand that would never rest", to be "the Flammifer of Westernesse" as Bilbo put it in his poem in Rivendell. The star itself is thus called Eärendil. The light inside the Phial is thus derived, in one way or another, from the Holy Light of the Silmarilli, from the unsullied Light of the Two Trees.

ArwenEvenstar · 09-02-2002, 03:15 PM

so its a simaril?

Khadrane · 09-02-2002, 05:11 PM

No. The light of the Silmaril is caught in it, but it is not a physical Silmaril. Sorry if that doesn't make any sense...

thingol · 09-03-2002, 05:31 AM

yes it is the ligth from a silmaril in fakt its the ligth from the silmaril of wind whom elendil saved and beren. stole from morgoths crown

barrelrider110 · 09-03-2002, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
I don't know what the Phial was made out of, but it wasn't a Silmaril. It was filled with the light of the Evening Star, however.

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'In this phial,' she said, 'is caught the light of Earendil's star, set amid the waters of my fountain.

The phial was probably made of crystal, glass or glass-like substance. It contained the water of Galadriel's fountain which was used as a medium to contain the light of Eärendil's star.

Ñólendil · 09-04-2002, 06:51 PM

Didn't know that about the water. Thanks for the info..

Linarryl · 10-20-2002, 10:27 AM

I don't think it was made from a silmaril. But I'm not so sure.
60 out of 100.

*GO LEGOLAS!*

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 10-20-2002, 11:57 AM

The Phial was a crystal containing the Light of Earendil caught in the water of the fountian that filled the Mirror of Galadriel. The Light of Earendil came from the Silmaril that was bound to his brow when he was placed in the sky as a star.

09-01-2002, 07:51 PM	#1
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	the phial of galadriel i didn't know if i should post this in LOTR or the sil was the phial of Galadriel made out of a silmaril? and if it was which one??? __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

09-01-2002, 09:50 PM	#3
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	I don't know what the Phial was made out of, but it wasn't a Silmaril. It was filled with the light of the Evening Star, however. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

09-01-2002, 10:27 PM	#4
Telperion Enting Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 78	I seem to remember that Earendil recovered a Silmaril. If he did than when Galadriel says, "The light of Earendil" could she mean the light of the Silmaril that Earendil recovered? __________________ Wherever you go, there you are. Aim for the stars, if you miss, you'll at least land on the moon! He who is made of air should not accuse the wind. My mind wanders. "Not all those who wander are lost." Therefore, my mind is not lost. Now, my question to those of you who doubt my sanity is this: How can someone who has not lost their mind be insane?

09-02-2002, 12:42 AM	#5
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Yes. The myths of Middle-earth said that the Evening Star (which we call Venus) was actually the Silmaril that Beren stole, fastened to the prow of Eärendil's ship, who sails the Heavens on "an errand that would never rest", to be "the Flammifer of Westernesse" as Bilbo put it in his poem in Rivendell. The star itself is thus called Eärendil. The light inside the Phial is thus derived, in one way or another, from the Holy Light of the Silmarilli, from the unsullied Light of the Two Trees. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

09-02-2002, 03:15 PM	#6
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	so its a simaril? __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

09-02-2002, 05:11 PM	#7
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	No. The light of the Silmaril is caught in it, but it is not a physical Silmaril. Sorry if that doesn't make any sense... __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

09-03-2002, 05:31 AM	#8
thingol Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: norway,stord Posts: 30	yes it is the ligth from a silmaril in fakt its the ligth from the silmaril of wind whom elendil saved and beren. stole from morgoths crown

09-04-2002, 06:51 PM	#10
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Didn't know that about the water. Thanks for the info.. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

10-20-2002, 10:27 AM	#11
Linarryl Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 160	I don't think it was made from a silmaril. But I'm not so sure. 60 out of 100. GO LEGOLAS!

10-20-2002, 11:57 AM	#12
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	The Phial was a crystal containing the Light of Earendil caught in the water of the fountian that filled the Mirror of Galadriel. The Light of Earendil came from the Silmaril that was bound to his brow when he was placed in the sky as a star.

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