where do i start

hudge · 02-16-2002, 03:52 PM

with so many books about lord of the rings
which one do i start with

Wayfarer · 02-16-2002, 03:56 PM

Begin at the Beginning, and go on until the End, then Stop.

Menelvagor · 02-16-2002, 06:25 PM

lol Wayfarer.

Hobbit, LotR, Sil, Unfinished Tales, HoME in that order.

Hapira_Brandybuck · 02-16-2002, 08:43 PM

what's HoME? watch it'll be so blatantly obvious that I'll be embarassed

emplynx · 02-16-2002, 08:56 PM

Hobbit, LotR, Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, History of Middle Earth (12 books) in that order.

Comic Book Guy · 02-16-2002, 08:56 PM

HoME=History of Middle Earth. This is a collection of Tolkiens writings concerning Middle-Earth compiled into 12 books by Christopher Tolkien. The 12 books are named..
[list=1][*]Book of Lost Tales 1[*]Book of Lost Tales 2[*]The Lays of Beleraind[*]The Shaping of Middle-Earth[*]The Lost Road and Other Writings[*]The Retum of the Shadow[*]The Treason of Isengard[*]The War of the Ring[*]Sauron Defeated[*]Morgoths Ring[*]The War of the Jewels[*]The Peoples of Middle Earth[/list=1]

Evenstar · 02-16-2002, 09:47 PM

I am gonna sound really daft and blonde asking this so please don't hold it against me but: Is the HoME include stuff from LotR...or is it what has happened from the beginning of time!!!???

markedel · 02-16-2002, 10:47 PM

The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings are two published novels (LOTR usually split into 3 volumes, The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King) The Hobbit is LOTR's prequel

The Silmarillion is a collection of Tolkien's stories edited (and sometimes altered slightly) by his son, detailing the first age of middle earth and summarising the downfall of Numenor and LOTR.

Unfinished Tales are a collection of Tolkien writings that serves as additional/background material to LOTR/Silmarillion

HoME are the 12 books listed above that are the collected notes and stories of Tolkien up to his death (including 4 volumes detailing the writing of LOTR) that detail the evolution of the language and history and cultures of middle earth.

Start with the Hobbit or perhaps the LOTR (you don't need to read the hobbit first, I didn't, and its style is very different from other works set in Middle Earth)

The rest of the works will be enjoyable if you enjoy Lord of the Rings. However they are not finished flowing works, are complex, often obtuse and use difficult language.

That said they are rewarding and beautiful and deep...

Dive in and instead of trying to have all your questions answered-just read and enjoy the words.

markedel · 02-16-2002, 10:51 PM

Oh and HoME is set out in the order the material was written

The first 2 volumes were written 1917-1920 and are a primitive Silmarillion

Next 3 written 1920=1937 detail the creation of Middle Earth

LOTR 1937-mid 50s
(4 Volumes)

2 more cover additions and alterations to the Silmarillion legends from mid 50s until his death

The last is a volume about LOTR appendixes and include the first 4 pages of a never completed sequel to LOTR (Tolkien didn't like it)

KGamgee · 02-19-2002, 09:22 PM

There was supposed to be a sequel?
I don't care if he didnt like it......
I WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!!!
No, but really, I've always wanted more.....
The other books are okay, but they are more like encyclopedias....I want more stories, if you know what I mean.

Liviaine · 02-19-2002, 09:35 PM

Me too.

BurningHammer · 02-19-2002, 09:39 PM

What is the best Middle Earth reference book.
I saw one at borders last week but wasnt sure if it was the best one.

*This picture is irrelevant. - CBG

Laurelyn · 02-19-2002, 10:01 PM

BurningHammer, what's with the picture?

BurningHammer · 02-19-2002, 10:10 PM

i thought itd be cool since i dont think you can have pics in your signature,
if they are too big or whatever tell me...

Laurelyn · 02-20-2002, 07:15 AM

Whatever.

It just takes forever to load an my slow computer.

BurningHammer · 02-20-2002, 08:13 AM

sorry I asked a mod and they say right now I cant post them
and we cant have pics in our sigs because of bandwith problems
and other technical stuff.

Bacchus · 02-23-2002, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BurningHammer
What is the best Middle Earth reference book.
I saw one at borders last week but wasnt sure if it was the best one.

I would suggest Robert Foster's Complete Guide to Middle Earth. Whatever you do, please, PLEASE, don't buy anything by David Day.

Arian · 02-23-2002, 05:53 PM

Do the "Return of the King" a lot of people like that. It's cool. But what ever u want to do is fine too.

Varda-Me · 02-24-2002, 12:59 AM

Definitely Foster's Complete Guide to Middle Earth. If you ever decide to tackled The Silmarillion (which I just completed), you will need it. So many characters, and each one has about five names. And the place names! But it's worth it!

eowyn144 · 03-03-2002, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bacchus

I would suggest Robert Foster's Complete Guide to Middle Earth. Whatever you do, please, PLEASE, don't buy anything by David Day.

whats wrong with David Day?

02-16-2002, 03:52 PM	#1
hudge Sapling Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: essex Posts: 1	where do i start with so many books about lord of the rings which one do i start with

02-16-2002, 03:56 PM	#2
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Begin at the Beginning, and go on until the End, then Stop. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-16-2002, 08:43 PM	#4
Hapira_Brandybuck Enting Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NW IN Posts: 75	what's HoME? watch it'll be so blatantly obvious that I'll be embarassed __________________ -Hapira Brandybuck 'My dear Frodo!' exclaimed Gandalf. 'Hobbits really are amazing creatures, as I have said before. You can learn all that there is to know about their ways in a month, and yet after a hundred years they can still surprise you at a pinch.

02-16-2002, 09:47 PM	#7
Evenstar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Neverneverland Posts: 215	Please don't hurt me!! I am gonna sound really daft and blonde asking this so please don't hold it against me but: Is the HoME include stuff from LotR...or is it what has happened from the beginning of time!!!??? __________________ "Frodo, Mr Frodo," he called. "Don't leave me here alone. It's your Sam calling. Don't you go where I can't follow." FRODO LIVES !!!!

02-16-2002, 10:47 PM	#8
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings are two published novels (LOTR usually split into 3 volumes, The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King) The Hobbit is LOTR's prequel The Silmarillion is a collection of Tolkien's stories edited (and sometimes altered slightly) by his son, detailing the first age of middle earth and summarising the downfall of Numenor and LOTR. Unfinished Tales are a collection of Tolkien writings that serves as additional/background material to LOTR/Silmarillion HoME are the 12 books listed above that are the collected notes and stories of Tolkien up to his death (including 4 volumes detailing the writing of LOTR) that detail the evolution of the language and history and cultures of middle earth. Start with the Hobbit or perhaps the LOTR (you don't need to read the hobbit first, I didn't, and its style is very different from other works set in Middle Earth) The rest of the works will be enjoyable if you enjoy Lord of the Rings. However they are not finished flowing works, are complex, often obtuse and use difficult language. That said they are rewarding and beautiful and deep... Dive in and instead of trying to have all your questions answered-just read and enjoy the words. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-16-2002, 06:25 PM	#3
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	lol Wayfarer. Hobbit, LotR, Sil, Unfinished Tales, HoME in that order.

02-16-2002, 08:56 PM	#5
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	Hobbit, LotR, Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, History of Middle Earth (12 books) in that order.

02-16-2002, 08:56 PM	#6
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	HoME=History of Middle Earth. This is a collection of Tolkiens writings concerning Middle-Earth compiled into 12 books by Christopher Tolkien. The 12 books are named.. [list=1][]Book of Lost Tales 1[]Book of Lost Tales 2[]The Lays of Beleraind[]The Shaping of Middle-Earth[]The Lost Road and Other Writings[]The Retum of the Shadow[]The Treason of Isengard[]The War of the Ring[]Sauron Defeated[]Morgoths Ring[]The War of the Jewels[]The Peoples of Middle Earth[/list=1]

02-16-2002, 10:51 PM	#9
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	Oh and HoME is set out in the order the material was written The first 2 volumes were written 1917-1920 and are a primitive Silmarillion Next 3 written 1920=1937 detail the creation of Middle Earth LOTR 1937-mid 50s (4 Volumes) 2 more cover additions and alterations to the Silmarillion legends from mid 50s until his death The last is a volume about LOTR appendixes and include the first 4 pages of a never completed sequel to LOTR (Tolkien didn't like it) __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-19-2002, 09:22 PM	#10
KGamgee Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 103	There was supposed to be a sequel? I don't care if he didnt like it...... I WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!!! No, but really, I've always wanted more..... The other books are okay, but they are more like encyclopedias....I want more stories, if you know what I mean.

02-19-2002, 09:35 PM	#11
Liviaine Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ithilien Posts: 203	Me too.

02-19-2002, 09:39 PM	#12
BurningHammer Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 22	What is the best Middle Earth reference book. I saw one at borders last week but wasnt sure if it was the best one. *This picture is irrelevant. - CBG __________________ http://www.creeperslair.com/hayabusa.html

02-19-2002, 10:01 PM	#13
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	BurningHammer, what's with the picture? __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

02-19-2002, 10:10 PM	#14
BurningHammer Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 22	i thought itd be cool since i dont think you can have pics in your signature, if they are too big or whatever tell me... __________________ http://www.creeperslair.com/hayabusa.html Last edited by BurningHammer : 02-20-2002 at 08:14 AM.

02-20-2002, 07:15 AM	#15
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	Whatever. It just takes forever to load an my slow computer. __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

02-20-2002, 08:13 AM	#16
BurningHammer Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 22	sorry I asked a mod and they say right now I cant post them and we cant have pics in our sigs because of bandwith problems and other technical stuff. __________________ http://www.creeperslair.com/hayabusa.html

02-23-2002, 05:53 PM	#18
Arian Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: IL (or from mist world) Posts: 261	Do the "Return of the King" a lot of people like that. It's cool. But what ever u want to do is fine too. __________________ "I'm not a immature as I seem, but you got to have fun once in a while."

02-24-2002, 12:59 AM	#19
Varda-Me Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 40	Definitely Foster's Complete Guide to Middle Earth. If you ever decide to tackled The Silmarillion (which I just completed), you will need it. So many characters, and each one has about five names. And the place names! But it's worth it!

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