The Magical Worlds of Lord of the Rings, got yours?

Elf.Freak · 12-30-2002, 09:50 AM

ok, this thread is on The Magical Worlds of Lord of the Rings (i put that incase you couldn't guess by the title

) by David Colbert.
i'm just gonna say that it's a fantastic book! it has things in it like 'What legend inspired the creation of Gollum', 'What's the origin of the word Hobbit' and (my fav) 'Who or what is Gandalf' (for those who want to know now, he is

an angel sent to Middle Earth on a mission (for more info, look at p.55)

.

I would seriously reccommend this book to anyone, so get your copy today (if you already have a copy of it, then you can talk about it here).

Blackboar · 12-31-2002, 02:11 PM

I've never seen this wonderful sounding book in the shops?

Falagar · 12-31-2002, 02:39 PM

How much did it cost? any net places you can buy it?

I wouldn't say a maia is the same as an angel.

Elf Girl · 12-31-2002, 02:55 PM

I agree about Maiar and angels.

BeardofPants · 12-31-2002, 03:58 PM

I prefer to go straight to the Master as much as possible.

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-31-2002, 05:03 PM

Maiar and angels are not the same thing; they are similar in some ways, but they are not the same. Maiar are sometimes referred to as angels to explain to those who are not as well-versed in Tolkien lore, though; no doubt that's why they said that.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-01-2003, 12:20 AM

I'm with BoP on this one.

***Rían*** · 01-01-2003, 12:32 AM

I would have to disagree with you, Gwaimir - Tolkien refers to the Valar and the Maiar as angelic beings many times in "The Letters of JRR Tolkien"; letter #131 is just one example. (hard to beat "Letters" for going "straight to the Master"

)

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-01-2003, 02:07 AM

Angelic beings, yes, certainly, but not actually "angels"; at least, I never thought so.

Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the Letters.

I have it in my shopping cart on amazon.com, but I can't check out yet; I'm supposed to be purchasing a laptop (we seem to be having trouble actually getting to pick it up), and I have to pay for that, and then I have to make sure I have enough for the books there, which is another 100+ dollars. But hopefully, I'll have my copy by the end of next week (by the end of January, almost definitely.

BeardofPants · 01-01-2003, 04:57 AM

You don't need to buy one. Just swipe Rian's.

zavron · 01-01-2003, 05:46 PM

I got one!

I don't like what he said on That Gollum gave away his Ring to Bilbo that wasn't how it happened. But that is the only thing I didn't like. The rest is Good!

***Rían*** · 01-01-2003, 10:59 PM

AArgh! No, don't steal my preciousssss "Letters"! Good thing I brought it with me!

I'm so homesick right now, I can't wait to go home on Friday!

Arathorn · 01-02-2003, 01:01 AM

I got myself a copy. It's pretty much "Tolkien for Dummies" or "A Primer of Tolkien" and arranged like an FAQ. It's a quick read but there are dubious intepretations and insights.

He states that December 25th or Christmas coincides with the Fellowship's departure from Rivendell and that March 25th (the day Sauron is defeated) coincides with Easter Sunday. He seems to forget that, although the dates were correct with respect to the LOTR appendices, the hobbit calendar is not exactly the same as our current calendar. Also, Easter falls on different dates from year to year.

I gave it as a Christmas gift to one of my cousins who is now starting to eat, sleep and breathe Tolkien.

12-31-2002, 02:39 PM	#3
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	How much did it cost? any net places you can buy it? I wouldn't say a maia is the same as an angel. __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

12-31-2002, 02:55 PM	#4
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I agree about Maiar and angels. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

12-31-2002, 03:58 PM	#5
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I prefer to go straight to the Master as much as possible. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

12-31-2002, 05:03 PM	#6
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Maiar and angels are not the same thing; they are similar in some ways, but they are not the same. Maiar are sometimes referred to as angels to explain to those who are not as well-versed in Tolkien lore, though; no doubt that's why they said that. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-01-2003, 12:20 AM	#7
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	I'm with BoP on this one. __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

12-31-2002, 02:11 PM	#2
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	I've never seen this wonderful sounding book in the shops?

01-01-2003, 12:32 AM	#8
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	I would have to disagree with you, Gwaimir - Tolkien refers to the Valar and the Maiar as angelic beings many times in "The Letters of JRR Tolkien"; letter #131 is just one example. (hard to beat "Letters" for going "straight to the Master" ) __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

01-01-2003, 02:07 AM	#9
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Angelic beings, yes, certainly, but not actually "angels"; at least, I never thought so. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the Letters. I have it in my shopping cart on amazon.com, but I can't check out yet; I'm supposed to be purchasing a laptop (we seem to be having trouble actually getting to pick it up), and I have to pay for that, and then I have to make sure I have enough for the books there, which is another 100+ dollars. But hopefully, I'll have my copy by the end of next week (by the end of January, almost definitely. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-01-2003, 04:57 AM	#10
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	You don't need to buy one. Just swipe Rian's. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

01-01-2003, 05:46 PM	#11
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	I got one! I don't like what he said on That Gollum gave away his Ring to Bilbo that wasn't how it happened. But that is the only thing I didn't like. The rest is Good! __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

01-01-2003, 10:59 PM	#12
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	AArgh! No, don't steal my preciousssss "Letters"! Good thing I brought it with me! I'm so homesick right now, I can't wait to go home on Friday! __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

01-02-2003, 01:01 AM	#13
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	I got myself a copy. It's pretty much "Tolkien for Dummies" or "A Primer of Tolkien" and arranged like an FAQ. It's a quick read but there are dubious intepretations and insights. He states that December 25th or Christmas coincides with the Fellowship's departure from Rivendell and that March 25th (the day Sauron is defeated) coincides with Easter Sunday. He seems to forget that, although the dates were correct with respect to the LOTR appendices, the hobbit calendar is not exactly the same as our current calendar. Also, Easter falls on different dates from year to year. I gave it as a Christmas gift to one of my cousins who is now starting to eat, sleep and breathe Tolkien. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

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