Better than LOTR? - Page 4

Elemmírë · 01-29-2005, 09:54 PM

I hate the Hobbit.

But I have my personal reasons.

You're Arwen, Mrs. Gimli? Me, I'm Amárië.

Mrs.Gimli · 01-30-2005, 03:26 PM

I am more like Eowyn.Why do you hate the Hobbit? I love it

Pytt · 01-30-2005, 06:47 PM

She is slighty nuts, but we just play along with her, so she don't get sad and dissapointed

Like saying Finrod is her, and that Feanor was a jerk

Elemmírë · 01-30-2005, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pytt

She is slighty nuts, but we just play along with her, so she don't get sad and dissapointed

Like saying Finrod is her, and that Feanor was a jerk

I am not Finrod, and Fëanor is a jerk.

Mrs. Gimli, I don't like the Hobbit because I was too old when I read it (for me, at least). I read it after LOTR and the Silm, and had already (for some reason I can't figure out - perhaps I just don't like main characters) developed quite a distaste for hobbits in general.

So I didn't like the Hobbit. Maybe it simply wasn't heroic and "Nordic" enough for me.

Embladyne · 01-30-2005, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemmire

Maybe it simply wasn't heroic and "Nordic" enough for me.

Mmmm....heroic.....Nordic....
Silmarillion, here I come!
I like the Hobbit and LOTR about equally, but, the Silm is where it gets good...I mean, all that history...all those hot elves...

Elemmírë · 01-30-2005, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Embladyne

I mean, all that history...all those hot elves...

Mm hm.

Too bad they all die...

me9996 · 03-20-2005, 01:19 PM

The hobbit is a prequill to LotR and LotR is the hobbits sequill.
So, I think:

LotR is for older children and the hobbit is for yonger ones

Twista · 03-20-2005, 03:52 PM

The Hobbit is often very much associated with being a childrens book. But I tend not to agree. The main reason for this is obviously the idea of reading about "goblins and dragons" doesnt appeal to the older generation. Many might think of it as fairy tale, which is quite understandible in many ways.

However, this is disproven with the depth Tolkien shows us in his writings. Discussions of a huge nature have been demonstrated this in this very forum. Although, I do agree with you Me in some ways. It can be seen that The Hobbit is more easy to read. Lotr is written in a some what more complicated way (lets not start on the Silmarillion) so I can see where your coming from. But in my opinion, both are aimed at all age groups and it is just a common mis-conception.

me9996 · 03-20-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twista

The Hobbit is often very much associated with being a childrens book. But I tend not to agree. The main reason for this is obviously the idea of reading about "goblins and dragons" doesnt appeal to the older generation. Many might think of it as fairy tale, which is quite understandible in many ways.

However, this is disproven with the depth Tolkien shows us in his writings. Discussions of a huge nature have been demonstrated this in this very forum. Although, I do agree with you Me in some ways. It can be seen that The Hobbit is more easy to read. Lotr is written in a some what more complicated way (lets not start on the Silmarillion) so I can see where your coming from. But in my opinion, both are aimed at all age groups and it is just a common mis-conception.

Gotya.

P.S.
Post499!!!!!!!!!!!!

strider8 · 03-29-2005, 02:07 PM

i love the Hobbit but i also like LOTR

Small No-name · 04-15-2005, 12:36 PM

The hobit is ok but the lotr is Much better

Thraxon · 04-16-2005, 12:23 PM

the hobbit was writen as a bed time story tfotr ttt trotk were not that is whate makes them better

EarthBound · 06-15-2005, 10:23 AM

Hobbit is the better linear story.....LOTR is rather two combined books, errr storylines, if you will.

LOTR has more meat, but the Hobbit is great fun to read to children.....and get them hooked on JRRT

Curubethion · 09-03-2005, 09:15 PM

Hobbit is a nice little story, but it isn't even close to the epic that LOTR is.

neofloyd · 11-15-2005, 11:19 PM

The Hobbit was great, I read it when I was 14, I believe, and loved it, I'm reading LOTR right now, I'm a fair way into Two Towers, the part about Helm's Deep, much better then the movies, but yeah, I'm thinking about rereading the Hobbit after LOTR, or read Silmarillion, don't know yet, but anywho, The Hobbit is great for reading when you feel like reading a wacky tell, LOTR is great when your in the mood for an epic tell, so they both are great in their own way, so no, I don't think The Hobbit is better then LOTR, I think their both great in their own way.

Confused yet, didn't so.

Tamuril Sirfalas · 11-16-2005, 10:21 PM

as for me i prefer the LOTRS to the hobbit. the hobbit is light and LOTRS is much darker than the hobbit...don't get me wrong i olove the LOTRS!!!!

Elanor · 11-17-2005, 07:24 PM

Interesting question. I agree with what most people have said. I prefer LotR overall, because the story is so meaningful and complex, and appeals to readers on so many different levels. On one hand, Tolkien was telling his kids stories about Tom Bombadil and silly Father Christmas elves; on the other, he was inventing this awesome language and mythology of Numenor, Valinor, high elves, and Melkor. Then these two elements came together and created this fascinating world that contains everything from hobbits splashing water in a tub to kings commanding armies of the dead, and then there's an evil ring that exerts such a subtle but powerful effect on the world, and it's just amazing. I think the Hobbit was the first step toward that, and shows hints of the greatness to come (I particularly like the Riddle game and the Arkenstone plot), but ultimately the Lord of the Rings is the culmination of Tolkien's genius.

Tamuril Sirfalas · 11-21-2005, 01:40 PM

the riddle game was so cool. i especially liked the riddle gollum made about the fish but i cant remember all of it so could you guys help me out?
i think it goes:
alive without breath,
as cold as death
ever drinking
never thirsting... thats all i can remember hope i said it right!!

Faerdhinen · 11-23-2005, 04:32 PM

Not better but ... easier, funnier, brighter. Nearly as cool as LotR.

Gandalfthegray · 11-23-2005, 10:25 PM

The hobbit is much more fun and relaxed, its my personal favorite. I personaly hate hobbits also, so go figure hehe.

01-29-2005, 09:54 PM	#61
Elemmírë avocatus diaboli Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Himring Posts: 1,582	I hate the Hobbit. But I have my personal reasons. You're Arwen, Mrs. Gimli? Me, I'm Amárië. __________________ ~ I have heard the languages of apocalypse and now I shall embrace the silence ~ Neil Gaiman

01-30-2005, 06:47 PM	#63
Pytt The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: trondheim, norway Posts: 1,388	She is slighty nuts, but we just play along with her, so she don't get sad and dissapointed Like saying Finrod is her, and that Feanor was a jerk __________________ Don't Panic!

03-20-2005, 03:52 PM	#68
Twista Orodruin's Flame Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kananaskis, AB Posts: 1,194	The Hobbit is often very much associated with being a childrens book. But I tend not to agree. The main reason for this is obviously the idea of reading about "goblins and dragons" doesnt appeal to the older generation. Many might think of it as fairy tale, which is quite understandible in many ways. However, this is disproven with the depth Tolkien shows us in his writings. Discussions of a huge nature have been demonstrated this in this very forum. Although, I do agree with you Me in some ways. It can be seen that The Hobbit is more easy to read. Lotr is written in a some what more complicated way (lets not start on the Silmarillion) so I can see where your coming from. But in my opinion, both are aimed at all age groups and it is just a common mis-conception. __________________ Council of Entmoot - Foreign Affairs Minister - 2004-05 Visit the Ye Olde Avatar Shop and The New One Dont tell me what I cannot do Two men are on a Island, they both see a "monster", one sees a bright light, and the other sees a dark cloud My name bares no reference to the music artist.

04-16-2005, 12:23 PM	#72
Thraxon Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: any where i can find shelter Posts: 37	the hobbit was writen as a bed time story tfotr ttt trotk were not that is whate makes them better __________________ "Do not think that the line between the dream world and ours is that thick. travling between the two are easier then you might think." Shade Found written in his jurnel three days after he dissappered.

06-15-2005, 10:23 AM	#73
EarthBound Lady Tipple & Queen of Blessed Thistle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: I've been told it's all in my head Posts: 916	Hobbit is the better linear story.....LOTR is rather two combined books, errr storylines, if you will. LOTR has more meat, but the Hobbit is great fun to read to children.....and get them hooked on JRRT __________________ Beer + Pizza = N'uff said Happy to be here The HACBR has been alerted to my postings…..Hobbits Against Constant Beer References Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Ben Franklin I want my Mooter T-Shirt!

01-30-2005, 03:26 PM	#62
Mrs.Gimli Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 39	I am more like Eowyn.Why do you hate the Hobbit? I love it

03-29-2005, 02:07 PM	#70
strider8 Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a spaceship, floating in your puny planet's atmosphere, awaiting orders to invade Posts: 292	i love the Hobbit but i also like LOTR

04-15-2005, 12:36 PM	#71
Small No-name Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middle earth Posts: 34	The hobit is ok but the lotr is Much better

09-03-2005, 09:15 PM	#74
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Hobbit is a nice little story, but it isn't even close to the epic that LOTR is. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

11-15-2005, 11:19 PM	#75
neofloyd Sapling Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Greenville Posts: 5	The Hobbit was great, I read it when I was 14, I believe, and loved it, I'm reading LOTR right now, I'm a fair way into Two Towers, the part about Helm's Deep, much better then the movies, but yeah, I'm thinking about rereading the Hobbit after LOTR, or read Silmarillion, don't know yet, but anywho, The Hobbit is great for reading when you feel like reading a wacky tell, LOTR is great when your in the mood for an epic tell, so they both are great in their own way, so no, I don't think The Hobbit is better then LOTR, I think their both great in their own way. Confused yet, didn't so.

11-16-2005, 10:21 PM	#76
Tamuril Sirfalas Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 340	as for me i prefer the LOTRS to the hobbit. the hobbit is light and LOTRS is much darker than the hobbit...don't get me wrong i olove the LOTRS!!!! __________________ Nin o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer: Rimmo nin Bruinen dan in Ulaer! Nin o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer: Rimmo nin Bruinen dan in Ulaer! REST IN PEACE GRANDMA, GREAT AUNT, GREAT UNCLE .....they're gunna fly with the angels now so say goodbye..but i can't. You don't really realize the importance of someone until they are gone

11-17-2005, 07:24 PM	#77
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	Interesting question. I agree with what most people have said. I prefer LotR overall, because the story is so meaningful and complex, and appeals to readers on so many different levels. On one hand, Tolkien was telling his kids stories about Tom Bombadil and silly Father Christmas elves; on the other, he was inventing this awesome language and mythology of Numenor, Valinor, high elves, and Melkor. Then these two elements came together and created this fascinating world that contains everything from hobbits splashing water in a tub to kings commanding armies of the dead, and then there's an evil ring that exerts such a subtle but powerful effect on the world, and it's just amazing. I think the Hobbit was the first step toward that, and shows hints of the greatness to come (I particularly like the Riddle game and the Arkenstone plot), but ultimately the Lord of the Rings is the culmination of Tolkien's genius. __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes

11-21-2005, 01:40 PM	#78
Tamuril Sirfalas Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 340	the riddle game was so cool. i especially liked the riddle gollum made about the fish but i cant remember all of it so could you guys help me out? i think it goes: alive without breath, as cold as death ever drinking never thirsting... thats all i can remember hope i said it right!! __________________ Nin o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer: Rimmo nin Bruinen dan in Ulaer! Nin o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer: Rimmo nin Bruinen dan in Ulaer! REST IN PEACE GRANDMA, GREAT AUNT, GREAT UNCLE .....they're gunna fly with the angels now so say goodbye..but i can't. You don't really realize the importance of someone until they are gone

11-23-2005, 04:32 PM	#79
Faerdhinen Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost in Middle-Earth Posts: 23	Not better but ... easier, funnier, brighter. Nearly as cool as LotR. __________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams

11-23-2005, 10:25 PM	#80
Gandalfthegray Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: new jersey Posts: 45	The hobbit is much more fun and relaxed, its my personal favorite. I personaly hate hobbits also, so go figure hehe.

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