The Elves... - Page 3

Novbariel · 11-29-2002, 03:19 AM

i don't think there's anywhere in Tolkien's works mentioning about his momma or siblings (perhaps no siblings!), no wife (maybe) and sticks with the dwarf all his life in Eressea... yet i don't think he hates caves, just not so fond of them. about his age, i think he's old enough (though not wise enough) because he once sang the song about Nimrodel but he couldn't finish it cuz he had forgotten much---wonder how long does it take for an elf to forget something???

oh yes, does anyone know about Legolas Greenleaf of Gondolin?

Miranda · 11-29-2002, 05:44 AM

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Originally posted by Novbariel
i don't think there's anywhere in Tolkien's works mentioning about his momma or siblings (perhaps no siblings!), no wife (maybe) and sticks with the dwarf all his life in Eressea... yet i don't think he hates caves, just not so fond of them. about his age, i think he's old enough (though not wise enough) because he once sang the song about Nimrodel but he couldn't finish it cuz he had forgotten much---wonder how long does it take for an elf to forget something???

oh yes, does anyone know about Legolas Greenleaf of Gondolin?

Damn!!! Oh well, I'll have to be a bit creative then!!! I thought Legolas was Legolas Greenleaf of Gondolin but I could be wrong- I usually am

Its strange because someone told me the other day that Legolas was the elvish way of saying Greenleaf so why would it be his first name and his second name!!!! Oh everything is so confusing- why didn't I get into something less taxing like the Teletubbies!!!???

Mx

Elvellon · 11-29-2002, 08:00 AM

No, Tolkien says (somewhere) that Legolas was a common enough name among elves. Also the Sindar of the Forest Kingdom were of the people of Thingol, not of Turgon. In fact Oropher (Thranduil’s father) disliked the Noldor intensely.

Miranda · 11-29-2002, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by Elvellon
No, Tolkien says (somewhere) that Legolas was a common enough name among elves. Also the Sindar of the Forest Kingdom were of the people of Thingol, not of Turgon. In fact Oropher (Thranduil’s father) disliked the Noldor intensely.

Oh well! I am humble to your wisdom! Mx

Novbariel · 11-30-2002, 02:34 AM

well, according to the BOLT, the Gnomes like to mix names, i mean they like to add a name to a name which has similar meaning or sound similar, like Turin Turambar. the same applies to Legolas Greenleaf.
legolas = greenleaf

anyway, what would happen if the legolas greenleaf of gondolin (a.k.a laiqalasse) meets the legolas greenleaf of mirkwood in tol eressea. bet they yank each other's hair,

Miranda · 11-30-2002, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Novbariel
well, according to the BOLT, the Gnomes like to mix names, i mean they like to add a name to a name which has similar meaning or sound similar, like Turin Turambar. the same applies to Legolas Greenleaf.
legolas = greenleaf

anyway, what would happen if the legolas greenleaf of gondolin (a.k.a laiqalasse) meets the legolas greenleaf of mirkwood in tol eressea. bet they yank each other's hair,

Tee hee hee, I can see it now!!!!! Hand bags at dawn! Mx

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 12-30-2002, 01:13 PM

Legolas was alive when Bilbo found the ring but here wasn't alive 3000 years ago because he is 2000+ nearly 3000 but not yet.

Shadowfax · 01-01-2003, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Novbariel
well, according to the BOLT, the Gnomes like to mix names

......GNOMES???????

Elvellon · 01-02-2003, 07:13 PM

In his earlier mythology Tolkien used to call the people we now know as the Noldor of “Gnomes.”

Eothain · 01-03-2003, 04:48 PM

Perhaps he wasn't born.

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 01-03-2003, 05:21 PM

Legolas is 3019 years old.

Blackboar · 01-03-2003, 05:45 PM

Legolas!! Less than 60 years old!

I don't think so!

Nilore · 01-04-2003, 05:08 AM

It is unsure of Legolas' age though.

Novbariel · 01-06-2003, 02:52 AM

gnomes were somehow related to the elves, uh, i don't think the noldor are called 'gnomes'..........

Artanis · 01-06-2003, 03:41 AM

'Gnomes' was the name of the Elves who followed Finwe to Valinor in eth earlier form of the mythology. Later Tolkien changed the name to the Noldor, like he changed a lot of other names of persons and places also, and genealogies, and other stuff.

Eothain · 01-06-2003, 12:12 PM

maybe he wasn't born.

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 02-02-2003, 05:12 AM

He was born because it says on Legolas profile thats he's 3019 years old.

Novbariel · 02-11-2003, 07:13 AM

honestly, that isn't his real age!! they just made it up so that he looks 'real'.

cian · 02-11-2003, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Novbariel well, according to the BOLT, the Gnomes like to mix names, i mean they like to add a name to a name which has similar meaning or sound similar, like Turin Turambar. the same applies to Legolas Greenleaf. legolas = greenleaf

The two names were Laigolas 'Green-leaf' and Legolast 'Keen-sight' ~ Legolas being a 'confusion of the two' (as stated in BOLT Appendix at least). It was said the Gnomes delighted to give two similar-sounding names of 'dissimilar' meaning. English 'Greenleaf' is a translation of course.

Tolkien apparently later borrowed the name for his character in LOTR (Gimli appears in BOLT too, for example). For the 'updated' idea concerning the name Legolas check out Letters.

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Novbariel · 02-13-2003, 02:38 AM

OMG! are we talking about the ELVES or just LEGOLAS!??

11-29-2002, 03:19 AM	#41
Novbariel Sapling Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Ithilien Posts: 9	i don't think there's anywhere in Tolkien's works mentioning about his momma or siblings (perhaps no siblings!), no wife (maybe) and sticks with the dwarf all his life in Eressea... yet i don't think he hates caves, just not so fond of them. about his age, i think he's old enough (though not wise enough) because he once sang the song about Nimrodel but he couldn't finish it cuz he had forgotten much---wonder how long does it take for an elf to forget something??? oh yes, does anyone know about Legolas Greenleaf of Gondolin? __________________ 'He stands not alone. You would die before your stroke fell.' --- Legolas

11-29-2002, 08:00 AM	#43
Elvellon Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lindon Posts: 637	No, Tolkien says (somewhere) that Legolas was a common enough name among elves. Also the Sindar of the Forest Kingdom were of the people of Thingol, not of Turgon. In fact Oropher (Thranduil’s father) disliked the Noldor intensely. __________________ **************************************** "None are more hoplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Reality is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein The Caffeine Mantra It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Brazil that the thoughts aquire speed, The hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion... Elvellon Erelion

11-30-2002, 02:34 AM	#45
Novbariel Sapling Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Ithilien Posts: 9	well, according to the BOLT, the Gnomes like to mix names, i mean they like to add a name to a name which has similar meaning or sound similar, like Turin Turambar. the same applies to Legolas Greenleaf. legolas = greenleaf anyway, what would happen if the legolas greenleaf of gondolin (a.k.a laiqalasse) meets the legolas greenleaf of mirkwood in tol eressea. bet they yank each other's hair, __________________ 'He stands not alone. You would die before your stroke fell.' --- Legolas Last edited by Novbariel : 11-30-2002 at 02:38 AM.

01-02-2003, 07:13 PM	#49
Elvellon Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lindon Posts: 637	In his earlier mythology Tolkien used to call the people we now know as the Noldor of “Gnomes.” __________________ **************************************** "None are more hoplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Reality is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein The Caffeine Mantra It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Brazil that the thoughts aquire speed, The hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion... Elvellon Erelion

01-03-2003, 04:48 PM	#50
Eothain Enting Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 73	LOTR Perhaps he wasn't born. __________________ Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpsting, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have past like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning? Frodo lives

12-30-2002, 01:13 PM	#47
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	Legolas was alive when Bilbo found the ring but here wasn't alive 3000 years ago because he is 2000+ nearly 3000 but not yet.

01-03-2003, 05:21 PM	#51
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	Legolas is 3019 years old. __________________ Ni melme legolas

01-03-2003, 05:45 PM	#52
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	Legolas!! Less than 60 years old! I don't think so!

01-04-2003, 05:08 AM	#53
Nilore Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: I am every where and I am no where, I am everyone and I am no-one! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Posts: 319	It is unsure of Legolas' age though. __________________ UZG-BURGÛLU-OB GHASHANUM GHASHNUM-OB MOR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Raise the Phial of Galadriel and let the Star Glass of Lothlorian cast out the Darkness of Shelob's Lair. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Naur an edraith ammen! Naur dan i ngaurholth! There was a roar and a crackle, and the tree above him burst into a leaf and bloom of blinding flame. The whole hill was crowned with a dazzling light! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bhûl latu dûmp Accept Your DOOM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DIE MERE MORTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh NO I AM A MERE MORTAL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHH Stop the NUKE Stop the NUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nilore writes last will and testament. Gets on knees And begs God for Mercy. Realizes He's already dead Flies up to heaven ( By the power of Red Bull) and lives happily ever after. THE END ( It's a MINI adventure) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

01-06-2003, 02:52 AM	#54
Novbariel Sapling Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Ithilien Posts: 9	gnomes were somehow related to the elves, uh, i don't think the noldor are called 'gnomes'.......... __________________ 'He stands not alone. You would die before your stroke fell.' --- Legolas

01-06-2003, 03:41 AM	#55
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	'Gnomes' was the name of the Elves who followed Finwe to Valinor in eth earlier form of the mythology. Later Tolkien changed the name to the Noldor, like he changed a lot of other names of persons and places also, and genealogies, and other stuff. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

01-06-2003, 12:12 PM	#56
Eothain Enting Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 73	The Hobbit. maybe he wasn't born. __________________ Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpsting, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have past like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning? Frodo lives

02-02-2003, 05:12 AM	#57
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	He was born because it says on Legolas profile thats he's 3019 years old. __________________ Ni melme legolas

02-11-2003, 07:13 AM	#58
Novbariel Sapling Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Ithilien Posts: 9	honestly, that isn't his real age!! they just made it up so that he looks 'real'. __________________ 'He stands not alone. You would die before your stroke fell.' --- Legolas

02-13-2003, 02:38 AM	#60
Novbariel Sapling Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Ithilien Posts: 9	OMG! are we talking about the ELVES or just LEGOLAS!?? __________________ 'He stands not alone. You would die before your stroke fell.' --- Legolas

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