The Hobbit movie - good / bad idea? - Page 4

Fatty Lumpkin · 02-02-2003, 03:56 PM

the guy from harry potter would be good as beorn, but i also think john rhys-davies could as well. he's big and stocky, dark, etc. it could work.

Evenstar1400 · 02-03-2003, 10:02 PM

but isnt the guy who played hagrid a little too tall?

oh wait screw that... they can just do the tricks with the camera and the set like they did in fotr. never mind...

gimli7410 · 02-03-2003, 11:18 PM

Yea but doesnt he hobbit describe beorn as a sort of giant and the guy who does hagrid is not that big either they just do tricks with the camera

Ellison · 02-03-2003, 11:32 PM

the Hobbit is also much lighter than LoTR... I don't think it would make a great movie.

Pippin Skywalker · 03-07-2003, 06:03 PM

Ok here's my 80 cents

:

I have had mixed and varied thoughts and feelings on this subject. First I didn't think the Hobbit could do well because it is more of a children's story than an epic like LOTR. It is a children's epic if you will.

However I also came to realize after a while of thinking I didn't care or that I did not want it made that it actually is a good story. It's just different. So yes now I wouldn't mind.

I think logistically it may not do as well as the LOTR trilogy because:

Few Human Protagonists. (There is Bard but he is at the end.)
No Romance. Hmm.

It is generally less complex and less driving. In FOTR Gandalf comes and it's like "Frodo! Close your mouth! We're leaving! You wanna be Nazgul certified dead meat? That ring is risking all of Middle Earth.

The Hobbit: "ok let's have Bilbo and the 13 dwarves fiesta week" lol

The stakes are higher and there is more danger and conflict in LOTR. I do think there would be appeal such as origins of the ring, gollum (AGAIN!), and Smaug! Really not until the end of the story do we get REAL battles and thing that would draw and audience.

I know that is more from a Box Office perspective but hey I want it to do well!

I do think how they do it is important.

hobbitboy · 03-07-2003, 07:07 PM

I think they should make a movie

Blackboar · 03-07-2003, 07:11 PM

I don't think they should make a movie,
For the people now, that read the books after they watched the movie, they're should be one book they are able to use more of they imagination for, it'll be hard with the LotR movies. But they wil be able to use them a bit.

Welcome to the 'moot hobbitboy!

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-07-2003, 10:22 PM

Y'know, that's wot they call me at another board I frequent!

***azalea*** · 03-07-2003, 11:07 PM

But PS, I think that The Hobbit is such a great story that it can stand on it's own w/ out a bunch of major battles (if you think about it, there are plenty of minor battles fought, just not conventionally). That is a complaint that many people had about LotR movies -- PJ focuses TOO much on the battles.
A good story can make a good movie. I'd love to see how they'd do the part when Gandalf is telling Beorn their story, as the dwarves come up a few at a time! I'd love to see Bilbo take on the spiders (Attercop! Attercop!)! I'd love to see Barrels out of Bond! I love to read it and use my imagination, but I also love movies, and done well it would be SOOO good!
And I get annoyed when people dis it as a children's book

It's ageless . It is great literature, yes, geared towards children, but with universal themes and great humor, characterization, plot lines...I could go on! Plus, children's lit deserves more respect. Good writing is good writing, no matter who the intended audience is.

gimli7410 · 03-07-2003, 11:24 PM

i would say go for it(i dont know why just probably because i want to see more dwarves)

Lady Tinuveil · 03-10-2003, 06:10 PM

I think if they were planning the hobbit as the concluding chapter(movie) to the series, They have already started the whole process & are keeping it underground for now. It will be an awesome ending for all who like the triligy, Personly, they should have thought ahead & made it first, as the opener to LOTR.
Either way, I will watch it, And probably read the book all over again! I cant wait to see all the treasures... And smaug...

Pippin Skywalker · 03-16-2003, 05:18 PM

well said alzea

***azalea*** · 03-18-2003, 03:19 PM

Thanks!

Melko Belcha · 03-18-2003, 03:31 PM

I could handle The Hobbit being made into a movie as long as PJ didn't get hold of the script.
His vison with the camera I give him credit for but the guy does not know how to write around the editing.
Plus I would hate to see Bilbo tossing the Dwarves over the Enchanted River, or The Battle of Five Armies lasting for a hour and a half. Not to mention the thirty minute battle in the Great Goblin cave.
Or he could make Bard not allow Bilbo and the Dwarves into Laketown so Thorin would plot how he could get Smaug to destory them for him.
Some might say this is over the top but after Two Towers I believe PJ will do anything to a story as long as it puts money in his pockets.

Indril Anarion · 03-19-2003, 09:30 AM

I'd like to see the Hobbit as a movie because it will give a new outlook, to the non-readers, as to what went on before the war of the Ring. Most people think of Bilbo now as a greedy old man. But in the Hobbit, he was crafty, smart, and brave. I think it would be a good idea, and if it being too childish are your worries, maybe parents will take more of their younger children to see the movie as well, therefore increasing it's box-office profits.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-20-2003, 11:38 AM

I agree with Melko.

View Bilbo as a greedy old man? How odd...

Blackboar · 03-20-2003, 02:13 PM

I don't think there should be a Hobbit movie,
Everytime I read LotR after the movie came out I try to imagine the same scenes as I used to when I read it before the movie, but I keep getting pictures of Elijah Wood dressed up as Frodo everytime. I can't imagine Legolas with brown hair anymore as I used.
I think there should be one book thats easy to read (I love the Sil, but its hard going) that you can imagine yourself, its hard already with those pictures of Ian McKellan as Gandalf in my head all the time. And Rivendell.

gandalfstormcrow · 04-08-2003, 02:40 AM

I wouldn't mind if it was made into a movie. A fighting Bilbo who slays spiders and rescues Dwarves. People would get to see just what stuff Bilbo is made of.

Making it after LOTR wouldn't be bad, because the first 3 episodes of SW were made after 4,5,6. I just hope it wouldn't be screwed up too bad.

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-08-2003, 11:44 AM

Just imagine...all those Dwarves...

Ninquelote · 04-08-2003, 01:00 PM

And imagine how much comic relief we'd get!

02-03-2003, 10:02 PM	#62
Evenstar1400 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In the inner depths of my lair. Posts: 421	but isnt the guy who played hagrid a little too tall? oh wait screw that... they can just do the tricks with the camera and the set like they did in fotr. never mind... __________________ Treebeard: Hmm, you look like hobbits, smell like hobbits, feel like hobbits and sound like hobbits. You must be orcs!

03-07-2003, 06:03 PM	#65
Pippin Skywalker Enting Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 93	Ok here's my 80 cents : I have had mixed and varied thoughts and feelings on this subject. First I didn't think the Hobbit could do well because it is more of a children's story than an epic like LOTR. It is a children's epic if you will. However I also came to realize after a while of thinking I didn't care or that I did not want it made that it actually is a good story. It's just different. So yes now I wouldn't mind. I think logistically it may not do as well as the LOTR trilogy because: Few Human Protagonists. (There is Bard but he is at the end.) No Romance. Hmm. It is generally less complex and less driving. In FOTR Gandalf comes and it's like "Frodo! Close your mouth! We're leaving! You wanna be Nazgul certified dead meat? That ring is risking all of Middle Earth. The Hobbit: "ok let's have Bilbo and the 13 dwarves fiesta week" lol The stakes are higher and there is more danger and conflict in LOTR. I do think there would be appeal such as origins of the ring, gollum (AGAIN!), and Smaug! Really not until the end of the story do we get REAL battles and thing that would draw and audience. I know that is more from a Box Office perspective but hey I want it to do well! I do think how they do it is important. __________________ Gimli: I'm Short! I'm Bad! I'm King of Khazaad! Note: That was not an actual quote from J.R.R. Tolkien's novel!

03-07-2003, 07:07 PM	#66
hobbitboy Sapling Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1	Re: The Hobbit movie - good / bad idea? I think they should make a movie

03-07-2003, 10:22 PM	#68
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Y'know, that's wot they call me at another board I frequent! __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-07-2003, 11:24 PM	#70
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	i would say go for it(i dont know why just probably because i want to see more dwarves) __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

02-02-2003, 03:56 PM	#61
Fatty Lumpkin Sapling Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryville, MO Posts: 10	the guy from harry potter would be good as beorn, but i also think john rhys-davies could as well. he's big and stocky, dark, etc. it could work.

02-03-2003, 11:18 PM	#63
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	Yea but doesnt he hobbit describe beorn as a sort of giant and the guy who does hagrid is not that big either they just do tricks with the camera

03-07-2003, 07:11 PM	#67
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	I don't think they should make a movie, For the people now, that read the books after they watched the movie, they're should be one book they are able to use more of they imagination for, it'll be hard with the LotR movies. But they wil be able to use them a bit. Welcome to the 'moot hobbitboy!

03-07-2003, 11:07 PM	#69
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	But PS, I think that The Hobbit is such a great story that it can stand on it's own w/ out a bunch of major battles (if you think about it, there are plenty of minor battles fought, just not conventionally). That is a complaint that many people had about LotR movies -- PJ focuses TOO much on the battles. A good story can make a good movie. I'd love to see how they'd do the part when Gandalf is telling Beorn their story, as the dwarves come up a few at a time! I'd love to see Bilbo take on the spiders (Attercop! Attercop!)! I'd love to see Barrels out of Bond! I love to read it and use my imagination, but I also love movies, and done well it would be SOOO good! And I get annoyed when people dis it as a children's book It's ageless . It is great literature, yes, geared towards children, but with universal themes and great humor, characterization, plot lines...I could go on! Plus, children's lit deserves more respect. Good writing is good writing, no matter who the intended audience is.

03-10-2003, 06:10 PM	#71
Lady Tinuveil Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oregon Hills Posts: 257	I think if they were planning the hobbit as the concluding chapter(movie) to the series, They have already started the whole process & are keeping it underground for now. It will be an awesome ending for all who like the triligy, Personly, they should have thought ahead & made it first, as the opener to LOTR. Either way, I will watch it, And probably read the book all over again! I cant wait to see all the treasures... And smaug...

03-16-2003, 05:18 PM	#72
Pippin Skywalker Enting Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 93	well said alzea __________________ Gimli: I'm Short! I'm Bad! I'm King of Khazaad! Note: That was not an actual quote from J.R.R. Tolkien's novel!

03-18-2003, 03:19 PM	#73
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	Thanks!

03-18-2003, 03:31 PM	#74
Melko Belcha Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Behind the Walls of Night Posts: 286	I could handle The Hobbit being made into a movie as long as PJ didn't get hold of the script. His vison with the camera I give him credit for but the guy does not know how to write around the editing. Plus I would hate to see Bilbo tossing the Dwarves over the Enchanted River, or The Battle of Five Armies lasting for a hour and a half. Not to mention the thirty minute battle in the Great Goblin cave. Or he could make Bard not allow Bilbo and the Dwarves into Laketown so Thorin would plot how he could get Smaug to destory them for him. Some might say this is over the top but after Two Towers I believe PJ will do anything to a story as long as it puts money in his pockets.

03-19-2003, 09:30 AM	#75
Indril Anarion Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: My heart is forever in Mirkwood Posts: 429	I'd like to see the Hobbit as a movie because it will give a new outlook, to the non-readers, as to what went on before the war of the Ring. Most people think of Bilbo now as a greedy old man. But in the Hobbit, he was crafty, smart, and brave. I think it would be a good idea, and if it being too childish are your worries, maybe parents will take more of their younger children to see the movie as well, therefore increasing it's box-office profits. __________________ I'm a Jesus Freak and proud of it... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to us." -Gandalf, FOTR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody tosses a Dwarf." - Gimli, FOTR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Save Ferris!!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My true Elven name is Idril Anarion, but I misspelled in the username, and now I can't fix it... Oh, well...now you know... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't be afraid of death....Be afraid of the unlived life- Tuck Everlasting

03-20-2003, 11:38 AM	#76
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I agree with Melko. View Bilbo as a greedy old man? How odd... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-20-2003, 02:13 PM	#77
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	I don't think there should be a Hobbit movie, Everytime I read LotR after the movie came out I try to imagine the same scenes as I used to when I read it before the movie, but I keep getting pictures of Elijah Wood dressed up as Frodo everytime. I can't imagine Legolas with brown hair anymore as I used. I think there should be one book thats easy to read (I love the Sil, but its hard going) that you can imagine yourself, its hard already with those pictures of Ian McKellan as Gandalf in my head all the time. And Rivendell.

04-08-2003, 02:40 AM	#78
gandalfstormcrow Enting Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ridding Middle Earth of Sauron before bedtime. Posts: 58	I wouldn't mind if it was made into a movie. A fighting Bilbo who slays spiders and rescues Dwarves. People would get to see just what stuff Bilbo is made of. Making it after LOTR wouldn't be bad, because the first 3 episodes of SW were made after 4,5,6. I just hope it wouldn't be screwed up too bad.

04-08-2003, 11:44 AM	#79
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Just imagine...all those Dwarves... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-08-2003, 01:00 PM	#80
Ninquelote Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here. For the time being. Posts: 336	And imagine how much comic relief we'd get! __________________ XIAN- for hating Wiccans. MURDERER- for hating vegetarians. PREP- for hating Goths. These are a few of my favourite things, the hypocritical stylings of the most "liberal" groups.

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