Best place in Beleriand

[Sween]

finrods a pretty boy loser

[Jonathan]

Originally posted by Sween
finrods a pretty boy loser

SGH and Ruinel will be mad at you now


I think I've somewhat made up my mind of which place is the best. When it comes to visiting, I'd most of all like to visit Gondolin. Gondolin must have been a great city for a tourist with lots of tourist attractions.

But I wouldn't want to live in a city which is that remote and isolated as Gondolin, even though I'd love to live in a city. But since there doesn't seem to have been many good cities around in Beleriand, I guess the best place for me to live would probably be Doriath. Finrod and his Nargothrond will have to excuse, but I couldn't live in a cave no matter how fantastic it was. I'd rather live in the woods of Thingol's kingdom, where I would be able to see the sun and some vegetation

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally posted by Sween
finrods a pretty boy loser

Jealous! You should live to be so pretty.

[Sween]

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Jealous! You should live to be so pretty.

Im handsome i have vita to look all pretty! I just dont suit skirts no matter how much i love them

[Rían]

I don't know quite why, but Gondolin has always enchanted me ...

*imagines living there with Tuor the noble, the valiant, the stud-muffin*

*realizes that this might look a little weird, since her Entmoot name is the name of Tuor's MOTHER*

OK, people, I chose "RÃ*an" for my Moot name because I liked how it looked and sounded, not because she was Tuor's mom!

I think that people generally think of the city when thinking of Gondolin, but there are beautiful non-city parts, too.

[Rían]

I had forgotten about Nan-tathren - that must have been a very beautiful place to make Voronwë forget about the sea ...

"in the fair fields of Nan-tathren, where the spring is sweeter than heart's desire."

[Sween]

Gondolins kinda the most fantastic image of a place ever. In Encircling hills hidden from the world tall and white and beautiful. Of all the storys of the Silmarillion i have to say if i could see one battle broiught to life it would be that the desperate defence of the best city this side of the great sea .

Still give me safty anyday

[Elvellon]

Probably Menegroth, mostly due to Doriath, (I would want to see that forest). But Nargothrond would be a good second choice (a learning centre as it was) . Gondolin, being an enclosed city would be a nice place to visit, but since it doesn’t have the wood expanses of elsewhere, and since one cannot leave, it doesn’t have the appeal other places have (to me).

[Maedhros]

Of course Gondolin is the most beautiful place in Middle-Earth. I wonder how Dor Firn-i-Guinar , the Land of the Death that live, would compare with the other places, especially when Lúthien wore the NauglamÃ*r:
From the Sil:

but it is said and sung that Lúthien wearing that necklace and that immortal jewel was the vision of greatest beauty and glory that has ever been outside the realm of Valinor; and for a little while the Land of the Dead that Live became like a vision of the land of the Valar, and no place has been since so fair, so fruitful, or so filled with light.

Nevertheless, the place that I would most like to visit would be:

And it was said to him that this was Mar Vanwa Tyaliéva, or the Cottage of Lost Play, and at that name he wondered greatly.

I know that this place is outside of Beleriand and outside of Tolkien's later legendarium, but it is a place of great beauty and hope. While the other great elf kingdoms of Beleriand, could have been way more beautiful, there were always under the assault of Morgoth. I don't think that neither kingdom in ME could be truly happy with the overpowering presence of him, and also, there was not that mixture of elves and men in them. For example it didn't exist in Nargothrond, Gondolin or Menegroth. In contrast, the Cootage of Lost Play, being an early conception was a place in where both Men and Elves could live side by side in harmony and peace. A place where there was an integration never to be seen again. It was truly the Cottage of Lost Play where no Play was lost.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

For an elf---(if not in Turgon's crowd) The willow reeds of Nan-Tathren

For a human--- (if not one of the three classy people allowed in Gondolin), Dor-Lomin

For a dwarf---Belegost (among other things, get to pick up the pieces after the dummies in Nogrod try to rumble with elves, Beren, and ents)

For an ent---Taur-Im-Duinath (bigger then other Beleriand forests. Lots of "room to grow" for the relatively young ent polity.

[Attalus]

I wouldn't get into Nargothond because SGH would always have the guest bedroom booked. Gondolin for me, but I gotta love Afro-elf's comment about the Havens.

[Falagar]

And it would be impossible to sleep, laying awake all night listening to SGH and Ruinel fighting.

[Radagast The Brown]

Originally posted by Falagar
And it would be impossible to sleep, laying awake all night listening to SGH and Ruinel fighting.

Neh, it'll be quiet. Finrod will throw them out of his kingdom.

[Jonathan]

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Neh, it'll be quiet. Finrod will throw them out of his kingdom.

No, they'd have Finrod chained to his bed

[Elvengirl]

Gondolin has always caught my attention, because of its renowned history and its beauty. I'd definitely want to visit there, but as for a home, I would say I'd be happier in Doriath.

[Twista]

The small river of Tol Galen has always beem special to me.. hehe

[Turgon_Turambar]

i reckon Angband would be a great tourist attraction. They even get to see a Valar at no extra cost.

[Celeborn of Doriath]

I would like to live in Doriath. I think Menegroth is more beautiful than Nargothrond. But Gondolin is great, too.

[Artanis]

Hey Celeborn my dear, welcome! Would you perhaps like to introduce yourself in this thread? I would love to know who I'm married to.

[Maedhros]

For all of you who think that Gondolin is not the best place, beat this description:

"Lo, it stands fair to see and very clear, and its towers prick the heavens above the Hill of Watch in the midmost plain." Then Tuor and his companion were led over the plain that was of a marvellous level, broken but here and there by boulders round and smooth which lay amid a sward, or by pools in rocky beds. Many fair pathways lay across that plain, and they came after a day's light march to the foot of the Hill of Watch (which is in the tongue of the Noldor Amon Gwared). Then did they begin to ascend the winding stairways which climbed up to the city gate; nor might any one reach that city save on foot and espied from the walls. As the westward gate was golden in the last sunlight did they come to the long stair's head, and many eyes gazed upon them from the battlements and towers.
But Tuor looked upon the walls of stone, and the uplifted towers, upon the glistering pinnacles of the town, and he looked upon the stairs of stone and marble up to its high platform, and its great gate, bordered by slender balustrades and cooled by the leap of threadlike waterfalls seeking the plain from the fountains of Amon Gwared, and he fared as one in some dream of the Valar, for he deemed not such things were seen by men in the visions of their sleep, so great was his amaze at the glory of Gondolin.
Then did the throng return within the gates and the wanderers with them, and Tuor saw they were of iron and of great height and strength. Now the streets of Gondolin were paved with stone and wide, kerbed with marble, and fair houses and courts amid gardens of bright flowers mounds of mallorns, birches, and evergreen trees were set about the ways, and many towers of great slenderness and beauty builded of white marble and carved most marvellously rose to the heaven. Squares there were lit with fountains and the home of birds that sang amid the branches of their aged trees, but of all these the greatest was that place where stood the King’s house , and the tower thereof on a pillared arcade was the loftiest in the city, and above it flew the banner of Fingolfin and the fountains that played before the doors shot twenty fathoms and seven in the air and fell in a singing rain of crystal: therein did the sun glitter splendidly by day, and the moon most magically shimmered by night. The birds that dwelt there were of the whiteness of snow and their voices sweeter than a lullaby of music.
On either side of the doors of the palace were the gilded images of two trees, one of gold and the other of silver, and they were likenesse the glorious Trees of Valinor that lit those places before Morgoth and Ungoliant withered them: and those trees the Gondolindrim named Glingal and Belthil.