Forces of the Valar - Page 3

Captain Stern · 01-30-2003, 04:34 PM

I read the Istari chapter in Unfinished Tales the other day for the first time, and came upon the passage (which I've read here on Entmoot in the past) which describes a council held by the Valar, deciding who among their servants should go to Middle Earth and attempt to put an end to Sauron's tyranny.

The following quote from that passage says a lot about the very real gulf in power between Gandalf (Olorin) and Sauron:

Quote:

Manwe replied that he wished Olorin to go as the third messenger to Middle Earth. But Olorin declared that he was too weak for such a task, and that he feared Sauron. Then Manwe said that that was all the more reason why he should go...

Andúril · 01-30-2003, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Captain Stern:
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The following quote from that passage says a lot about the very real gulf in power between Gandalf (Olorin) and Sauron:

*snip*

I agree. Whereas other passages speak from an Istari context, this one clearly indicates Olorin's thoughts on the matter from an "unrestricted" perspective. And being the wisest of the Maiar, we can justifiably infer that he was correct in his judgement and that his fear was indeed warranted.

Elvellon · 01-31-2003, 07:29 PM

A question. What about Olorin’s power after the War of the Ring? How that may have affected his inner power?

01-31-2003, 07:29 PM	#3
Elvellon Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lindon Posts: 637	A question. What about Olorin’s power after the War of the Ring? How that may have affected his inner power? __________________ **************************************** "None are more hoplessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Reality is just an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein The Caffeine Mantra It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Brazil that the thoughts aquire speed, The hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion... Elvellon Erelion

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