sir ian spills beans

macmico · 12-19-2003, 09:02 PM

i have just seen an interview with sir ian mckellen on a chat show we have here in the uk.
he says that we can expect more gandalf scences, the input of sarumans scenes and a running time of up to 5hours from the EE of rotk.

he also says that there are two production companies battling for the rights of the hobbit and that when either one is in a position they will approach pj. he also says that he will be very dissapointed if he himself isnt approached to play gandalf(that makes two of us)

he also said that the biggest factor in him getting the part of gandalf and beating high competition such as antony hopkins and sean connery was that pj wanted to cast someone who in the eyes of the fans would become gandalf, and not have the actor be bigger than the character.

(sorry if that bit was in the wrong forum) (about the hobbit)

Dúnedain · 12-19-2003, 09:04 PM

Wow 5 hours! Heck maybe we will get to see the Scouring of the Shire, lol...

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-20-2003, 04:21 AM

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sir ian spills beans

Oh dear, such a mess.

Seriously, 5 hours???

That's quite a DVD...or three...O.O

Varda Oiolosseo · 12-20-2003, 11:40 AM

ooooooooh i saw that show too!!!

Yeah 5 hours!!! I couldn't believe it!! And he also said that all the Saruman scenes that were cut out will be in (i thought they would be anyway) but 5 hours!!!!! I can't wait!!

Gulio, Strength of Many · 12-20-2003, 06:39 PM

*insert high-pitched, girlish shriek here* Five hours!!!! Wahoo!!!! *grabs popcorn and Gimli mug* Can't wait!!! Hopefully there will be the Scouring of the Shire, the Black Breath scene, and more Faramir/Eowyn. In the movie, they looked a teach other at Aragorn's coronation, and that was IT!!!

Elf Girl · 12-20-2003, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
Wow 5 hours! Heck maybe we will get to see the Scouring of the Shire, lol...

It was never shot, remember?

**Nurvingiel** · 12-20-2003, 09:00 PM

Maybe they'll have Aragorn and Arwen's wedding. Ironic that that didn't make the movie. Arwen had so many made up scenes and they didn't put in her best real one.

Dúnedain · 12-20-2003, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Elf Girl
It was never shot, remember?

I am still of the theory that it was, being what we saw in the Mirror of Galadriel. No one has still proven that to be wrong, even when I've read things saying it wasn't filmed, but clearly when they have BagEnd burnt up and stuff like that, to me that's the Scouring

***anduin*** · 12-21-2003, 03:10 AM

i use to think that, but then again they could have filmed that bit just for the mirror scene. they had to dismantel the set at some point, perhaps they burned it down and filmed it as they did so...just to be a part of the mirror scene.

glad to hear about the possiblity of a 5 hour extended ROTK. thanks for the info.

Elvengirl · 12-21-2003, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
I am still of the theory that it was, being what we saw in the Mirror of Galadriel. No one has still proven that to be wrong, even when I've read things saying it wasn't filmed, but clearly when they have BagEnd burnt up and stuff like that, to me that's the Scouring

I know, that's what I was thinking. How could that be shown and have the Shire be ok? Unless, the mirror was showing what might come to pass should Frodo fail in his quest.
I think I have read that PJ did not like the Scouring in the books, therefore he didn't want to shoot it, but that could be a rumor.
I hope it will be included in the extended. That would be so awesome, seeing the little hobbits save their homes.

Did you say 5 hours?! Wohoo!

macmico · 12-21-2003, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Elvengirl
I know, that's what I was thinking. How could that be shown and have the Shire be ok? Unless, the mirror was showing what might come to pass should Frodo fail in his quest.
I think I have read that PJ did not like the Scouring in the books, therefore he didn't want to shoot it, but that could be a rumor.
I hope it will be included in the extended. That would be so awesome, seeing the little hobbits save their homes.

Did you say 5 hours?! Wohoo!

although he may not have liked it i think it was a very important part. it shows that the istari are actually spirits from the west. i dont know i think some of the faults in the movies all come down to different interpretations of the story. i guess everyone relates in their own way

Elvengirl · 12-21-2003, 07:50 PM

I think it is an important part as well and it should be included in the films.

cassiopeia · 12-21-2003, 08:11 PM

PJ says he didn't like the scouring in the book on the TTT EE DVD.

That's why I believe there is no hope that we'll ever see it.

Elvengirl · 12-21-2003, 08:14 PM

There's always hope

cassiopeia · 12-21-2003, 08:19 PM

There was never much hope, only a fool's hope.

Falagar · 12-21-2003, 08:29 PM

Well, what do your hearts tell you?

Elvengirl · 12-21-2003, 08:57 PM

That Frodo is alive.....er I mean that there WILL BE a Scouring.

Falagar · 12-21-2003, 09:03 PM

We shall se the scouring again!

(my jokes are getting worse and worse)

Elvengirl · 12-21-2003, 10:16 PM

yes, precious we shall see the scouring, yes, yes we musts, mustn't we?

lol mine are not any better

Arathorn · 12-21-2003, 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by Falagar
We shall se the scouring again!

(my jokes are getting worse and worse)

HEY! That's a good one!

12-19-2003, 09:02 PM	#1
macmico Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: paisley (scotland) Posts: 35	sir ian spills beans i have just seen an interview with sir ian mckellen on a chat show we have here in the uk. he says that we can expect more gandalf scences, the input of sarumans scenes and a running time of up to 5hours from the EE of rotk. he also says that there are two production companies battling for the rights of the hobbit and that when either one is in a position they will approach pj. he also says that he will be very dissapointed if he himself isnt approached to play gandalf(that makes two of us) he also said that the biggest factor in him getting the part of gandalf and beating high competition such as antony hopkins and sean connery was that pj wanted to cast someone who in the eyes of the fans would become gandalf, and not have the actor be bigger than the character. (sorry if that bit was in the wrong forum) (about the hobbit) __________________ "he passed over dor-nu-fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that orome himself was come"

12-19-2003, 09:04 PM	#2
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	Wow 5 hours! Heck maybe we will get to see the Scouring of the Shire, lol... __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

12-20-2003, 06:39 PM	#5
Gulio, Strength of Many Lover of all things orange and cheesy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On a smokestack eating my the chekt. Posts: 1,045	insert high-pitched, girlish shriek here Five hours!!!! Wahoo!!!! grabs popcorn and Gimli mug Can't wait!!! Hopefully there will be the Scouring of the Shire, the Black Breath scene, and more Faramir/Eowyn. In the movie, they looked a teach other at Aragorn's coronation, and that was IT!!! __________________ El Poco Diablo is watching you... It was like the Manifest Destiny all over again, except, instead of taking and consuming everything in their paths for God, they did so with the same fervor and sense of entitlement for their new god... themselves. If you want to know more about Jesus, have a prayer need, or want to talk about anything, PM me.

12-21-2003, 03:10 AM	#9
*anduin* Entwife Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: louisville Posts: 3,718	i use to think that, but then again they could have filmed that bit just for the mirror scene. they had to dismantel the set at some point, perhaps they burned it down and filmed it as they did so...just to be a part of the mirror scene. glad to hear about the possiblity of a 5 hour extended ROTK. thanks for the info. __________________ Far away across the field The tolling of the iron bell Calls the faithful to their knees To hear the softly spoken magic spells.

12-21-2003, 07:50 PM	#12
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	I think it is an important part as well and it should be included in the films. __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

12-20-2003, 11:40 AM	#4
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	ooooooooh i saw that show too!!! Yeah 5 hours!!! I couldn't believe it!! And he also said that all the Saruman scenes that were cut out will be in (i thought they would be anyway) but 5 hours!!!!! I can't wait!!

12-21-2003, 08:11 PM	#13
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	PJ says he didn't like the scouring in the book on the TTT EE DVD. That's why I believe there is no hope that we'll ever see it. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

12-21-2003, 08:14 PM	#14
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	There's always hope __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

12-21-2003, 08:19 PM	#15
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	There was never much hope, only a fool's hope. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

12-21-2003, 08:29 PM	#16
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Well, what do your hearts tell you? __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle. Last edited by Falagar : 12-21-2003 at 08:36 PM.

12-21-2003, 08:57 PM	#17
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	That Frodo is alive.....er I mean that there WILL BE a Scouring. __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

12-21-2003, 09:03 PM	#18
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	We shall se the scouring again! (my jokes are getting worse and worse) __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

12-21-2003, 10:16 PM	#19
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	yes, precious we shall see the scouring, yes, yes we musts, mustn't we? lol mine are not any better __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

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