Jane Austen - Page 7

sun-star · 10-31-2005, 05:29 AM

I've heard the last scene is a

kiss between Lizzy and Darcy at Pemberly after they're married.

***Rían*** · 10-31-2005, 01:37 PM

oh, well, ok, I can live with that - doesn't seem outside what the characters would do!

Count - isn't that line fabulous?!

sun-star · 10-31-2005, 01:59 PM

One hopes they would kiss at some point in their married life, indeed...

Linaewen · 10-31-2005, 07:05 PM

I've seen that in the promo ads for it over here as well. That's what made me think they went and Hollywood-ised it or something - is there ever a movie where the couple doesn't kiss?

Count Comfect · 10-31-2005, 07:47 PM

No. They shall never kiss. It would be against their natures

But it isn't in the book - and it seems gratuitous. The other ending would be quite good enough.

I agree, Rian. That line is simply brilliant.

hectorberlioz · 11-01-2005, 07:27 PM

You know, John Lennon's killer seems pretty morally stable(

)...maybe I should *makes cutting throat gesture* Keira Knightly.

Linaewen · 11-28-2005, 02:29 AM

I've seen the film now. I thought it was really quite good, with a good soundtrack too. I was able to tolerate Knightley after a while, though Bingley is really just strange (metrosexual dope?). Mr Collins & Darcy were terrific!

hectorberlioz · 11-28-2005, 07:13 PM

It got good reviews...sounds decent

Good soundtrack? I hope you mean it's a score...becuase if there is vocal singing in that movie I will retract my optimism.

Mercutio · 11-28-2005, 07:21 PM

It is now out everywhere in the U.S., not just selected cities.

Alas, I have no time in which to view the master?piece.

Linaewen · 11-28-2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

It got good reviews...sounds decent

Good soundtrack? I hope you mean it's a score...becuase if there is vocal singing in that movie I will retract my optimism.

Yes, I meant score.

The only singing was that of Mary, I think.

Btw, here is an article about the 2 different endings.

cee2lee2 · 11-29-2005, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linaewen

...Btw, here is an article about the 2 different endings.

Intersting that they had to "sweeten" the ending for the US audience. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I think I would prefer the British ending. I always laugh when I read Mr. Bennet's closing statement and have such a good feeling about Lizzie and Mr. D.

hectorberlioz · 11-30-2005, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linaewen

Yes, I meant score.

The only singing was that of Mary, I think.

Btw, here is an article about the 2 different endings.

Which brings up a question: who does the score? It's a mainly british production I imagine, so probably Patrick Doyle.

I have to agree that the sweetened ending was probably for us americans. I can't see why we the normal ending wouldnt do...

Linaewen · 12-01-2005, 05:25 PM

Googling reveals that it was Dario Marianelli who composed the music.

Maybe you Americans have problems watching romantic movies that don't culminate in a kiss.

jellyfishannah · 12-02-2005, 02:53 PM

I am a big fan of the Colin Farell (of course!)one but this one looks pretty good. Can't wait to see it!

I recently finished reading Manfield Park. Needless to say, it was excellent. now I am reading Northanger Abbey.

BeardofPants · 12-02-2005, 04:08 PM

Northanger Abbey is one of my favourites.... ah who am I kidding, love 'em all.

inked · 12-07-2005, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardofPants

Northanger Abbey is one of my favourites.... ah who am I kidding, love 'em all.

Austen...esque?

http://www.cwnews.com/offtherecord/o...ay&recnum=3274

Not! but humorous on some level~

hectorberlioz · 12-22-2005, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellyfishannah

I am a big fan of the Colin Farell (of course!)one but this one looks pretty good. Can't wait to see it!

I recently finished reading Manfield Park. Needless to say, it was excellent. now I am reading Northanger Abbey.

Firth, remember it's Firth! Don't get your Colins so mixed up!

hectorberlioz · 12-22-2005, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linaewen

Googling reveals that it was Dario Marianelli who composed the music.

Maybe you Americans have problems watching romantic movies that don't culminate in a kiss.

Don't you preach to me about kissing, look at your own avatar

***azalea*** · 01-01-2006, 07:26 PM

Just wanted to weigh in here after having seen the latest movie version. I was not going to see it because to me the Colin Firth/ Jennifer Ehle (sp?) version is the definitive one. I thought it was too soon to make another version, and I could see Kiera as Lizzy. But a friend of mine to whom I had introduced the book asked if I'd go see it with her, and so we went.

I was overall pleased with this one. The director did a fabulous job of making it his own, and I appreciated his camera direction. Many long shots (meaning time-wise, which is practically non-existant in today's films), many shots from unusual angles (E. turning on the swing, looking in the mirror, that shot through the thick glass). I especially liked the scene where he proposes, on the steps of that stone building in the rain, and then pulling back to show the grassy slope behind it. I wanted to be there!!!!!

The actors did a good job, esp. Darcy, Mr. Bennett, and Mr. Collins. Darcy was made a bit more sympathetic in this one by hinting that shyness is what caused his manner, rather than being brusque due to a lack of ease in company and generally being more serious. That might seem to be the same thing, but there is a difference.
The settings were very well done and authentic looking, and again, the director made it his own by slightly shifting the time period a bit earlier for a different look.

My one criticism is that the actors cast were a little too modern-looking, more so than in the "definitive" version, esp. Miss Bingly. Also, several of the actors in this one seemed to have difficulty with the old-style dialogue, which resulted in their sounding awkward or too modern. A couple of phrases (which I can't think of) were in there that I felt were out of place.

Anyway, definately worth a watch for any Austen fan. As for the ending, I can't imagine it ending with Mr. Bennett's line. I would have considered it a rip off not to have seen them kiss! It was done a little cheesily, but was satisfying in a way that lopping it off would not have been. Just because no kiss is described in the book doesn't mean it doesn't fit in a dramatization -- even the "definitive" version ends with a kiss. Faugh to those who critisized it! :P

***Valandil*** · 03-16-2006, 09:06 AM

Having recently seen the last two movie versions - and my wife having just checked out the videotapes of the long (12-hour?) BBS production - I got the book "Pride and Prejudice" a few nights ago.

I've only been able to read in bits, but I'm about one fourth of the way through it. For 400+ pages, it's really pretty readable - the chapters are mostly short.

Enjoying it so far.

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10-31-2005, 07:47 PM	#125
Count Comfect Word Santa Claus Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,922	No. They shall never kiss. It would be against their natures But it isn't in the book - and it seems gratuitous. The other ending would be quite good enough. I agree, Rian. That line is simply brilliant. __________________ Sufficient to have stood, yet free to fall.

11-01-2005, 07:27 PM	#126
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11-28-2005, 07:13 PM	#128
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	It got good reviews...sounds decent Good soundtrack? I hope you mean it's a score...becuase if there is vocal singing in that movie I will retract my optimism. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

11-28-2005, 07:21 PM	#129
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10-31-2005, 01:59 PM	#123
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	One hopes they would kiss at some point in their married life, indeed...

10-31-2005, 07:05 PM	#124
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	I've seen that in the promo ads for it over here as well. That's what made me think they went and Hollywood-ised it or something - is there ever a movie where the couple doesn't kiss?

11-28-2005, 02:29 AM	#127
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	I've seen the film now. I thought it was really quite good, with a good soundtrack too. I was able to tolerate Knightley after a while, though Bingley is really just strange (metrosexual dope?). Mr Collins & Darcy were terrific!

12-01-2005, 05:25 PM	#133
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	Googling reveals that it was Dario Marianelli who composed the music. Maybe you Americans have problems watching romantic movies that don't culminate in a kiss.

12-02-2005, 02:53 PM	#134
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12-02-2005, 04:08 PM	#135
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01-01-2006, 07:26 PM	#139
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	Just wanted to weigh in here after having seen the latest movie version. I was not going to see it because to me the Colin Firth/ Jennifer Ehle (sp?) version is the definitive one. I thought it was too soon to make another version, and I could see Kiera as Lizzy. But a friend of mine to whom I had introduced the book asked if I'd go see it with her, and so we went. I was overall pleased with this one. The director did a fabulous job of making it his own, and I appreciated his camera direction. Many long shots (meaning time-wise, which is practically non-existant in today's films), many shots from unusual angles (E. turning on the swing, looking in the mirror, that shot through the thick glass). I especially liked the scene where he proposes, on the steps of that stone building in the rain, and then pulling back to show the grassy slope behind it. I wanted to be there!!!!! The actors did a good job, esp. Darcy, Mr. Bennett, and Mr. Collins. Darcy was made a bit more sympathetic in this one by hinting that shyness is what caused his manner, rather than being brusque due to a lack of ease in company and generally being more serious. That might seem to be the same thing, but there is a difference. The settings were very well done and authentic looking, and again, the director made it his own by slightly shifting the time period a bit earlier for a different look. My one criticism is that the actors cast were a little too modern-looking, more so than in the "definitive" version, esp. Miss Bingly. Also, several of the actors in this one seemed to have difficulty with the old-style dialogue, which resulted in their sounding awkward or too modern. A couple of phrases (which I can't think of) were in there that I felt were out of place. Anyway, definately worth a watch for any Austen fan. As for the ending, I can't imagine it ending with Mr. Bennett's line. I would have considered it a rip off not to have seen them kiss! It was done a little cheesily, but was satisfying in a way that lopping it off would not have been. Just because no kiss is described in the book doesn't mean it doesn't fit in a dramatization -- even the "definitive" version ends with a kiss. Faugh to those who critisized it! :P

03-16-2006, 09:06 AM	#140
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