|
04-22-2017, 09:36 PM | #1 |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LI-woods, NY
Posts: 653
|
JRRt gives us very little because a little has happened.
Actually, according to Tolkien, it went on quite peacefully. His words “Sauron, having made his plans, abandons Dol Guldur “(“LOTR“, App.B) imply that he was not “driven out”, as the White Council wanted everyone to believe, but just unhurriedly retreated in accordance with his own plans. Jackson hugely overdid the event, bringing in such a crowd. Tolkien asserts that Galadriel alone seems effortlessly razed Dol Guldur after the surmount of the fortress, then what had held her hands to do it at the time of the stand? No need of the Elvish army. Jackson's interpretation was entertaining and on a borderline of being comical. Made a more interesting movie from an otherwise plain story .
__________________
Uruk-hai, or the journey to there. |
04-26-2017, 09:09 AM | #2 | |||
Elven Warrior
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 222
|
Quote:
Suaron's plans are revealed here a well: that the Nine had gone before him to make ready for his return, so that his [Sauron's] flight was a feint, and he returned to Mordor. And in the longer version of Appendix B [which Tolkien had to be talked out of, and even noted in The Fellowship of The Ring that the published Appendix B was, in part, a truncated version] it's again said that the Sorcerer was "driven out", which again implies force to me, despite that Sauron himself had plans to reoccupy Mordor. Quote:
Quote:
|
|||
04-26-2017, 01:54 PM | #3 | ||
Elf Lord
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LI-woods, NY
Posts: 653
|
Quote:
Quote:
Sauron already made his mind about moving, but was procrastinating, so, Saruman speeded him up by demonstrating to him the work of his ingenious gadget.
__________________
Uruk-hai, or the journey to there. Last edited by Olmer : 04-26-2017 at 02:26 PM. |
||
04-27-2017, 07:16 AM | #4 | ||
Elven Warrior
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 222
|
Quote:
Quote:
Last edited by Galin : 04-27-2017 at 05:30 PM. |
||
05-04-2017, 09:35 AM | #5 |
The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium)
Posts: 14,363
|
Olmer generally believes in a let's call it... more original reading of the texts than some of us.
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
How to take a Ring from an unwilling Ring-wielder? - crazy ideas | Gordis | Middle Earth | 217 | 10-03-2013 03:43 PM |
Were the Nazgul free from Sauron for the most part of the Third Age? | Gordis | Middle Earth | 141 | 07-09-2006 07:16 PM |
Who is the Mouth of Sauron? | Maedhros | Lord of the Rings Books | 11 | 09-15-2003 02:43 PM |
The Rings Of Power | zavron | Middle Earth | 14 | 01-08-2003 02:41 PM |
Sauron | Dark Lord Sauron | The Silmarillion | 4 | 01-07-2003 11:53 PM |