In Need of A Little Comfort/Reassurance

Starr Polish · 04-09-2002, 10:20 PM

Today something incredibly scary happened in my World History class (at least, it was scary to me).

Somehow we got to talking about the singer Elton John (don't ask, we always go off subject) and suddenly, a boy in my class decided to pipe up "I think any man that likes kissing other men should be shot." He wasn't joking, he was completely serious. Not only does this shake me up, but I know for a fact this boy is a very angry and violent person. He began a fist fight with me in sixth grade over me touching his trombone and telling him to stop degrading me. (So, it basically went from a bit of verbal bashing to physical bashing)

He also gets teased a lot himself, so I'm afraid he might go off someday. I'm probably being paranoid, but it really shook me up.

***HOBBIT*** · 04-09-2002, 10:23 PM

Why did you touch his trombone?

Starr Polish · 04-09-2002, 10:26 PM

Because he was waving it in my face (I was on the floor, he was standing up) and kind of trying to hit me with it.

***HOBBIT*** · 04-09-2002, 10:27 PM

why were you on the floor? what kind of room? (i need this details to develop a full picture)

Starr Polish · 04-09-2002, 10:37 PM

Band room, I was putting away my alto saxaphone, so I was crouched on the floor. We had a small band room in junior high, it was pretty cramped. This isn't actually all that important, just pointing out I know he's not exactly a passive person.

galadriel88 · 04-09-2002, 10:46 PM

Scary, Starr. I think that would shake me up too!

Although I am a Christian and believe that homosexuality is wrong, I certainly don't think that all gays should be shot. God will deal with them however He chooses on judgement day.

BeardofPants · 04-09-2002, 11:43 PM

*Chooses not to reply to Galadriel88's comment on judgement of homosexuals*

Starr, this guy sounds like someone who could possibly be a "bomb in the making". If, and I do feel that your feelings could be validated, you feel that this guy is a potential menace to society, then you should report him. Get it on record, that this boy is problematic, and violent. Make sure your teacher knows, your principal, maybe the guidance coucellor. Just make sure that somebody knows, without splashing it to the whole world.

It is unfortunate, but there are people out there, who are sick, and not getting the treatment they need. One boy at my school was problematic as well, and nobody reported him. One day he got expelled for scraping a junior's head down a brick wall (the rough type). Two years later, he killed his flatmate with an axe. This could have been avoided. It turned out that he was a paranoid schizophrenic.

So, to reiterate, if you feel that he has a problem, then report it to your teacher. Don't blab to the whole world, just have a talk to somebody that can provide confidentiality, and maybe the guidance that this boy needs.

Starr Polish · 04-09-2002, 11:46 PM

Well, he did say this loudly in my class, directly to my teacher. (No, my teacher is not gay). The class proceeded to heartily disagree with him, and start saying things like "That's as bad as saying you should shoot everyone who likes chocolate, or who has blue eyes"...Then the kid said "Well, I'm not one to judge."

I just don't know.

And just for the record, I am a Christian who completely accepts gays, Christian or otherwise.

BeardofPants · 04-09-2002, 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by Starr Polish
And just for the record, I am a Christian who completely accepts gays, Christian or otherwise.

That is immaterial to this thread. Your concern is not that he is a gay-basher, but that he could be a potential threat to you, and your associates. If you geniunely feel this way about him, then please, report him. It could prevent a terrible tragedy.

Starr Polish · 04-09-2002, 11:57 PM

I just wanted to make that clear, but yes, you are right.

Laurelyn · 04-10-2002, 05:40 AM

Whoa . . .

If I were you, Starr, I'd do like BoP says, if he really gets to you. If it is possible for him to become a major threat to others, you'll be doing the world no good by letting it go unnoticed.

**crickhollow** · 04-10-2002, 07:37 AM

Go ahead and talk to your teacher about your feelings. Gut instincts can be pretty accurate. Anyway, how would you feel if he went off one day, and you hadn't said anything? Pretty rotten, to put it mildly.

Teachers can't always catch stuff like this, but if you talk w/ them, they'll probably watch him a little more closely, check on his family life, talk w/ his parents...etc.

Yeah, if he scares you, don't brush it off as paranoia. Talk to you teacher.

emplynx · 04-10-2002, 07:45 AM

You really do need to tell someone. Not a teacher, but an administrator. That is not a good thing for someone to feel that way. Even if he was joking, that is B-A-D bad!

Elfmaster XK · 04-10-2002, 08:16 AM

I agree. At my primary schoolt there was this guy who was always really violent and aggresive towards other people. He threw a chair threw the classroom window in one of his mad rages and threw the fire extingusher at the teacher. He was taken away to get help, then ran away.

I see him around sometimes and he hasn't been in school for years, all he does is hang out at the stations etc to cause trouble and beat people up.

Tell some one.

BTW, to be completely irrelevent, i really like your avatar Emplynx! It is quite fitting with my sig!

jerseydevil · 04-10-2002, 10:46 AM

I would definetly talk it over with the teacher he said it in front of. She/He may not know his other behavior and stuff and may just think it was a verbal comment and meant nothing.

He may just be all talk - but I'd talk to her to get your teacher's feelings about it and tell them what you're concerned about. The guy seems a little disturbed. Of course it's hard to make a judgement on someone when you only have one side of the story. I'm not saying that I don't believe you - it's just that there are always two sides. Without knowing him or talking to him - it's impossible to pass judgement on someone.

Did you talk to other students in the class afterward? What were their reactions?

Elf Girl · 04-12-2002, 07:09 PM

I agree, if he bothers you, get help immediatly. He would scare me too. *decides not to respond to Galad88's comment so that she can maintain a friendship*

Arian · 04-12-2002, 08:22 PM

Well the best way is avoide him. Trust me I do it. Well yeah it would be scary. Hope you work problems out. Tell someone if it's becomes too serious. And who's Elton John??

galadriel88 · 04-12-2002, 11:37 PM

No offense, but you don't know who Elton John is? Okay, well, he's a singer. he's been singing since the 70's or something. And he's gay. 'Nuff said.

Starr Polish · 04-13-2002, 02:53 PM

According to my World History teacher, he's bi, actually

.

Thank you for the advice and the comfort. I have discussed this issue with my parents.

FrodoFriend · 04-13-2002, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by Arian
Well the best way is avoide him. Trust me I do it. Well yeah it would be scary. Hope you work problems out. Tell someone if it's becomes too serious. And who's Elton John??

Ever heard "Candle in the Wind" or "If I Could Change the World"? Elton John's a darn good musician/piano player. I only wish I had a CD or two of his!

04-09-2002, 10:20 PM	#1
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	In Need of A Little Comfort/Reassurance Today something incredibly scary happened in my World History class (at least, it was scary to me). Somehow we got to talking about the singer Elton John (don't ask, we always go off subject) and suddenly, a boy in my class decided to pipe up "I think any man that likes kissing other men should be shot." He wasn't joking, he was completely serious. Not only does this shake me up, but I know for a fact this boy is a very angry and violent person. He began a fist fight with me in sixth grade over me touching his trombone and telling him to stop degrading me. (So, it basically went from a bit of verbal bashing to physical bashing) He also gets teased a lot himself, so I'm afraid he might go off someday. I'm probably being paranoid, but it really shook me up. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

04-09-2002, 10:23 PM	#2
*HOBBIT* Saviour of Entmoot Admiral Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NC/NJ (no longer Same place as bmilder.) Posts: 61,986	Why did you touch his trombone? __________________ President Emeritus (2000-2004) Private message (or email) me if you need any assistance. I am here to help! "I'm up to here with cool, ok? I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox Latest Blog Post: Just Quit Facebook? No One Cares!

04-09-2002, 10:26 PM	#3
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Because he was waving it in my face (I was on the floor, he was standing up) and kind of trying to hit me with it. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

04-09-2002, 10:27 PM	#4
*HOBBIT* Saviour of Entmoot Admiral Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NC/NJ (no longer Same place as bmilder.) Posts: 61,986	why were you on the floor? what kind of room? (i need this details to develop a full picture) __________________ President Emeritus (2000-2004) Private message (or email) me if you need any assistance. I am here to help! "I'm up to here with cool, ok? I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox Latest Blog Post: Just Quit Facebook? No One Cares!

04-09-2002, 10:37 PM	#5
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Band room, I was putting away my alto saxaphone, so I was crouched on the floor. We had a small band room in junior high, it was pretty cramped. This isn't actually all that important, just pointing out I know he's not exactly a passive person. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

04-09-2002, 10:46 PM	#6
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	Scary, Starr. I think that would shake me up too! Although I am a Christian and believe that homosexuality is wrong, I certainly don't think that all gays should be shot. God will deal with them however He chooses on judgement day. __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

04-09-2002, 11:43 PM	#7
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Chooses not to reply to Galadriel88's comment on judgement of homosexuals Starr, this guy sounds like someone who could possibly be a "bomb in the making". If, and I do feel that your feelings could be validated, you feel that this guy is a potential menace to society, then you should report him. Get it on record, that this boy is problematic, and violent. Make sure your teacher knows, your principal, maybe the guidance coucellor. Just make sure that somebody knows, without splashing it to the whole world. It is unfortunate, but there are people out there, who are sick, and not getting the treatment they need. One boy at my school was problematic as well, and nobody reported him. One day he got expelled for scraping a junior's head down a brick wall (the rough type). Two years later, he killed his flatmate with an axe. This could have been avoided. It turned out that he was a paranoid schizophrenic. So, to reiterate, if you feel that he has a problem, then report it to your teacher. Don't blab to the whole world, just have a talk to somebody that can provide confidentiality, and maybe the guidance that this boy needs. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords Last edited by BeardofPants : 04-09-2002 at 11:45 PM.

04-09-2002, 11:46 PM	#8
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Well, he did say this loudly in my class, directly to my teacher. (No, my teacher is not gay). The class proceeded to heartily disagree with him, and start saying things like "That's as bad as saying you should shoot everyone who likes chocolate, or who has blue eyes"...Then the kid said "Well, I'm not one to judge." I just don't know. And just for the record, I am a Christian who completely accepts gays, Christian or otherwise. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

04-09-2002, 11:57 PM	#10
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I just wanted to make that clear, but yes, you are right. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

04-10-2002, 05:40 AM	#11
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	Whoa . . . If I were you, Starr, I'd do like BoP says, if he really gets to you. If it is possible for him to become a major threat to others, you'll be doing the world no good by letting it go unnoticed. __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

04-10-2002, 07:37 AM	#12
crickhollow The Buckleberry Fairy/Captain Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington State again (I miss Texas). Posts: 1,345	Go ahead and talk to your teacher about your feelings. Gut instincts can be pretty accurate. Anyway, how would you feel if he went off one day, and you hadn't said anything? Pretty rotten, to put it mildly. Teachers can't always catch stuff like this, but if you talk w/ them, they'll probably watch him a little more closely, check on his family life, talk w/ his parents...etc. Yeah, if he scares you, don't brush it off as paranoia. Talk to you teacher. __________________ A day will come at last when I Shall take the hidden paths that run West of the Moon, East of the Sun.

04-10-2002, 07:45 AM	#13
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	You really do need to tell someone. Not a teacher, but an administrator. That is not a good thing for someone to feel that way. Even if he was joking, that is B-A-D bad!

04-10-2002, 08:16 AM	#14
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	I agree. At my primary schoolt there was this guy who was always really violent and aggresive towards other people. He threw a chair threw the classroom window in one of his mad rages and threw the fire extingusher at the teacher. He was taken away to get help, then ran away. I see him around sometimes and he hasn't been in school for years, all he does is hang out at the stations etc to cause trouble and beat people up. Tell some one. BTW, to be completely irrelevent, i really like your avatar Emplynx! It is quite fitting with my sig! __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

04-10-2002, 10:46 AM	#15
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	I would definetly talk it over with the teacher he said it in front of. She/He may not know his other behavior and stuff and may just think it was a verbal comment and meant nothing. He may just be all talk - but I'd talk to her to get your teacher's feelings about it and tell them what you're concerned about. The guy seems a little disturbed. Of course it's hard to make a judgement on someone when you only have one side of the story. I'm not saying that I don't believe you - it's just that there are always two sides. Without knowing him or talking to him - it's impossible to pass judgement on someone. Did you talk to other students in the class afterward? What were their reactions? __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide Last edited by jerseydevil : 04-10-2002 at 11:43 AM.

04-12-2002, 07:09 PM	#16
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I agree, if he bothers you, get help immediatly. He would scare me too. decides not to respond to Galad88's comment so that she can maintain a friendship __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

04-12-2002, 08:22 PM	#17
Arian Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: IL (or from mist world) Posts: 261	Well the best way is avoide him. Trust me I do it. Well yeah it would be scary. Hope you work problems out. Tell someone if it's becomes too serious. And who's Elton John?? __________________ "I'm not a immature as I seem, but you got to have fun once in a while."

04-12-2002, 11:37 PM	#18
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	No offense, but you don't know who Elton John is? Okay, well, he's a singer. he's been singing since the 70's or something. And he's gay. 'Nuff said. __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

04-13-2002, 02:53 PM	#19
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	According to my World History teacher, he's bi, actually . Thank you for the advice and the comfort. I have discussed this issue with my parents. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell