The Hobbit" movie might never happen. :-(

Olmer · 09-25-2008, 08:45 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/...olkien_lawsuit
What should be expected. An appetite grow when you eat.

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The charity's trustees, which include Tolkien's heirs, joined publisher HarperCollins to sue the studio in February. Besides damages, the lawsuit seeks a court order that would terminate New Line's rights to make a two-film prequel based on "The Hobbit."

Midge · 09-25-2008, 08:59 PM

I'm happy with them leaving The Hobbit well alone, really. They did pretty well (for Hollywood-esque people) with the LOTR and staying true (the loss of the Scouring hit me hard, though!)

For some reason I'm getting this bad vibe that the Hobbit would turn out to be like the Chronicles of Narnia are, or even worse! Harry Potter... *shudders*

Curufin · 09-26-2008, 11:33 PM

:d

Yay!!!!

ElizabethAnnRoger · 09-27-2008, 04:40 PM

oh you guys dont want a hobbit?
i want it, but only with the same everyone. Director, music, cast, everything.
if they were goign to change all that, i didnt want it.
oh well..

shesabrandybuck · 09-28-2008, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElizabethAnnRoger

oh you guys dont want a hobbit?
i want it, but only with the same everyone. Director, music, cast, everything.
if they were goign to change all that, i didnt want it.
oh well..

agreed.

Coffeehouse · 09-28-2008, 02:30 PM

No worries

First of all I trust Guillermo del Toro in providing two classics in the name of The Hobbit.

Secondly, the ruling was that the estate of the Lord of the Rings (Tolkien's heirs & Co.) could not prevent the making of the movies, but could file for economic compensation:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7637693.stm

"A judge in Los Angeles has stopped the estate of Lord of the Rings author JRR Tolkien from seeking punitive damages against film studio New Line Cinema."

So;
"Mexican director Guillermo del Toro will direct both that film and a follow-up that will draw from other works in the Tolkien canon."

I really can't wait

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 09-29-2008, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElizabethAnnRoger

oh you guys dont want a hobbit?
i want it, but only with the same everyone. Director, music, cast, everything.
if they were goign to change all that, i didnt want it.
oh well..

I feel the exact opposite. I only want it if they have NONE of the same people from the LotR movies.

But your wish is granted. It will be the same people. If not all, then certainly most of the same people will be involved in The Hobbit.

shesabrandybuck · 09-28-2008, 02:53 PM

So this 'del Toro' guy is directing the Hobbit?

Empress_Flynn · 09-28-2008, 02:55 PM

Yeah... that's the plan anyway... del Toro's great though.. check out Pan's Labyrinth....

Coffeehouse · 09-28-2008, 02:58 PM

Yep! He's quite the director. And with Peter Jackson involved in some way or another this looks promising

shesabrandybuck · 09-28-2008, 03:02 PM

Oh, I cant wait then!

are both Ians in the movie?

Coffeehouse · 09-28-2008, 03:11 PM

I think they are planning for the same old Gandalf at least

*Curses rule!!!*

shesabrandybuck · 09-28-2008, 07:20 PM

Andy Serkis?

shesabrandybuck · 09-29-2008, 02:22 PM

Why would you like different people?

Coffeehouse · 09-29-2008, 04:16 PM

I can't recall where I read it Link, but I seem to remember that nearly all relevant actors, including Serkis, who starred in LOTR were interested in coming back for the two Hobbit movies. It's looking good

shesabrandybuck · 09-29-2008, 04:43 PM

Oh yay! Can't wait! *rubs hands together greedily*

Coffeehouse · 09-29-2008, 04:49 PM

Neither can I! The scene where Bilbo goes around in the depths of the Misty Mountains and has to elude the Goblins (They're Orcs right?) is gonna be whopping!

So goes for Smaug (Evil!

) in his Lonely Mountain. He will absolutely rock.

The Hobbit has so much greater potential for being through-and-through excellent because the story is shorter (makes it so much more likely for the screenwriters to succeed) and there's so much to be added from the years between the Hobbit and LOTR (like Dol Guldor and the Necromancer) which gives the Director a lot of room for creativity and an equal amount of room for staying true to Tolkien's work (since he won't face the same burden of having to cut away scenes as PJ had to do in the triology).

shesabrandybuck · 09-29-2008, 04:53 PM

I know, I seriously cannot wait!! I can't wait to see Bilbo and Gollum and the riddles

Coffeehouse · 09-29-2008, 05:52 PM

The Bilbo character is probably going to be new tho. And that's fine since the LOTR guy (can't remember his name) will seem a bit old.. I'm okay with that tho. Bilbo has to be a new face with the Hobbit being the true beginning of Tolkien's world! (He is the coolest character ever)

shesabrandybuck · 09-29-2008, 09:16 PM

I think Ian Holmes played him...
I would be fine with that, he needs to be younger

I love the Hobbit, goodness, I can hardly wait!!

09-25-2008, 08:59 PM	#2
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	I'm happy with them leaving The Hobbit well alone, really. They did pretty well (for Hollywood-esque people) with the LOTR and staying true (the loss of the Scouring hit me hard, though!) For some reason I'm getting this bad vibe that the Hobbit would turn out to be like the Chronicles of Narnia are, or even worse! Harry Potter... shudders __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

09-26-2008, 11:33 PM	#3
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09-27-2008, 04:40 PM	#4
ElizabethAnnRoger Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Along side the Emperor of France. Posts: 110	oh you guys dont want a hobbit? i want it, but only with the same everyone. Director, music, cast, everything. if they were goign to change all that, i didnt want it. oh well.. __________________ ...Ambition never is in a greater hurry that I; it merely keeps pace with circumstances and with my general way of thinking... Vive l'Empereur! Now and for always... Elizabeth Ann Roger

09-28-2008, 02:30 PM	#6
Coffeehouse Entmoot Minister of Foreign Affairs Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 2,145	No worries First of all I trust Guillermo del Toro in providing two classics in the name of The Hobbit. Secondly, the ruling was that the estate of the Lord of the Rings (Tolkien's heirs & Co.) could not prevent the making of the movies, but could file for economic compensation: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7637693.stm "A judge in Los Angeles has stopped the estate of Lord of the Rings author JRR Tolkien from seeking punitive damages against film studio New Line Cinema." So; "Mexican director Guillermo del Toro will direct both that film and a follow-up that will draw from other works in the Tolkien canon." I really can't wait __________________ "Well, thief! I smell you and I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself again, there is plenty and to spare."

09-28-2008, 02:53 PM	#8
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	So this 'del Toro' guy is directing the Hobbit? __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

09-28-2008, 02:55 PM	#9
Empress_Flynn Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Everywhere and nowhere Posts: 814	Yeah... that's the plan anyway... del Toro's great though.. check out Pan's Labyrinth.... __________________ "Even a mirror will not show you yourself, if you do not wish to see." "But remember... clowns make two things around here: balloon animals... and enemies." "If I loved you then I would love you in any way I could, and if we could not touch, then I would draw strength from your beauty... And if I went blind, I would fill my soul with the sound of your voice and the contents of your thoughts until the last spark of my love for you lit the shabby darkness of my dying mind."

09-28-2008, 02:58 PM	#10
Coffeehouse Entmoot Minister of Foreign Affairs Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 2,145	Yep! He's quite the director. And with Peter Jackson involved in some way or another this looks promising __________________ "Well, thief! I smell you and I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself again, there is plenty and to spare."

09-28-2008, 03:02 PM	#11
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	Oh, I cant wait then! are both Ians in the movie? __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

09-28-2008, 03:11 PM	#12
Coffeehouse Entmoot Minister of Foreign Affairs Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 2,145	I think they are planning for the same old Gandalf at least Curses rule!!! __________________ "Well, thief! I smell you and I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself again, there is plenty and to spare."

09-28-2008, 07:20 PM	#13
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	Andy Serkis? __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

09-29-2008, 02:22 PM	#14
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	Why would you like different people? __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

09-29-2008, 04:16 PM	#15
Coffeehouse Entmoot Minister of Foreign Affairs Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 2,145	I can't recall where I read it Link, but I seem to remember that nearly all relevant actors, including Serkis, who starred in LOTR were interested in coming back for the two Hobbit movies. It's looking good __________________ "Well, thief! I smell you and I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself again, there is plenty and to spare."

09-29-2008, 04:43 PM	#16
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	Oh yay! Can't wait! rubs hands together greedily __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

09-29-2008, 04:49 PM	#17
Coffeehouse Entmoot Minister of Foreign Affairs Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 2,145	Neither can I! The scene where Bilbo goes around in the depths of the Misty Mountains and has to elude the Goblins (They're Orcs right?) is gonna be whopping! So goes for Smaug (Evil!) in his Lonely Mountain. He will absolutely rock. The Hobbit has so much greater potential for being through-and-through excellent because the story is shorter (makes it so much more likely for the screenwriters to succeed) and there's so much to be added from the years between the Hobbit and LOTR (like Dol Guldor and the Necromancer) which gives the Director a lot of room for creativity and an equal amount of room for staying true to Tolkien's work (since he won't face the same burden of having to cut away scenes as PJ had to do in the triology). __________________ "Well, thief! I smell you and I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself again, there is plenty and to spare."

09-29-2008, 04:53 PM	#18
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	I know, I seriously cannot wait!! I can't wait to see Bilbo and Gollum and the riddles __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

09-29-2008, 05:52 PM	#19
Coffeehouse Entmoot Minister of Foreign Affairs Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 2,145	The Bilbo character is probably going to be new tho. And that's fine since the LOTR guy (can't remember his name) will seem a bit old.. I'm okay with that tho. Bilbo has to be a new face with the Hobbit being the true beginning of Tolkien's world! (He is the coolest character ever) __________________ "Well, thief! I smell you and I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself again, there is plenty and to spare."

09-29-2008, 09:16 PM	#20
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	I think Ian Holmes played him... I would be fine with that, he needs to be younger I love the Hobbit, goodness, I can hardly wait!! __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

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