The Hobbit is Truly Official... - Page 4

hectorberlioz · 12-22-2008, 12:38 PM

My nightmare involves The Hobbit and this "inbetween" story being blown out of proportion. I mean, you'd think they naturally wouldn't go as far as amassing millions of soldiers like they did in RotK.

I want the Hobbit movie to be its own thing, and not merely a prelude to LotR. The Hobbit should have a warmer feel to it, more relaxed. No "this is the final moment" crap. No overwrought melodramatic hodgepodge.

Have I made myself clear yet?

**Mari** · 12-22-2008, 01:26 PM

Abundantly

But I do agree with you that the Hobbit, though a prelude to the LotR, should be separate. It's a 'happy' story with a good ending and just not as serious in tone as the LotR and should thus be portrayed.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 12-22-2008, 02:42 PM

That's not what the producers or director are shooting for. It's going to be a prequel with the very same tone as the other three movies.

Quote:

"The reality is that we stopped talking the first movie and second movie, and we just started taking about the movie - the two episodes, or two parts, as if they were a single piece of narrative. We don’t even call it the bridge movie, we just call it ‘The Movie.’ And this is great. When we found what reverberated, and we found it in one of our virtual meetings - we understood. It’s a movie.”

“We all agree that if we do our job right, it should all feel like a continuous journey. That’s what we’re striving for,” Del Toro told MTV. “You should see a movie that’s five pictures long. If we do our job right, you put in ‘The Hobbit’ and you wind up watching the entire Pentology!”

**Mari** · 12-22-2008, 02:54 PM

Drat.
Ah well. I'll watch it anyway. Gotta have something to complain about, right?

hectorberlioz · 12-22-2008, 10:49 PM

Pentalogy. As if that was the most important thing! Hmph!

More like Satanology, what they're doing

.

Oh well. Like Mari says, we'll watch it if only to complain about it...

I'm sure they won't get everything wrong.

***Earniel*** · 12-23-2008, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dread Pirate Roberts

"The reality is that we stopped talking the first movie and second movie, and we just started taking about the movie - the two episodes, or two parts, as if they were a single piece of narrative.”

Oh, how that is exactly not what purists like me like to hear.

I want The Hobbit in one piece, so if the bridge movie sucks too much, I can just forget about it. They better not try to split the story up between two movies.

hectorberlioz · 12-23-2008, 09:09 PM

I wonder if Christopher Tolkien would like to direct the Hobbit movie himself...

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 12-23-2008, 11:31 PM

I think Christopher Tolkien regrets that his father ever sold the movie rights at all.

hectorberlioz · 12-23-2008, 11:34 PM

More and more, I find myself with those same sentiments. It's a pretty pathetic world where a cartoon is more faithful to a classic book than the live-action movie.

Gordis · 12-24-2008, 08:44 AM

Well, Tolkien needed money, so he sold the rights. A good idea would have been to sell them to some trustworthy company, not likely to make a mess out of the adaptation and try to negociate the right to edit the script himself and later transmit this right to Chris... But unfortunately he didn't think of it, it seems. And then the new owner could re-sell the rights as he pleased...

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 12-24-2008, 01:46 PM

I think the contract the professor signed was a product of the times. Had the rights remained with the Tolkien Estate until the 1990s, the Jackson films would have been quite different and the Tolkiens would have made a lot more money with a lot more input into the process, assuming the films ever got made at all. Selling movie rights to your book today is much different than it was back in the 50s and 60s.

Mark of Cenla · 02-10-2009, 06:37 PM

I am happy about both movies, and I hope the in the future I will be able to watch all five movies. To each his/her own. Peace and goodwill.

shesabrandybuck · 03-26-2009, 08:08 PM

Does anyone know what is already Official for the new Hobbit movie? Just some straight up facts?

frank lampard · 06-08-2009, 04:40 AM

Cant wait for the new movie.Smile dont know who can pull off bilbo the character bar ian holms but it will be interesting to see..

and it will be kinda silly to see ian mckellen looking older as gandalf then he did lord of the rings.. i wonder how they are going to fix that???

***Earniel*** · 06-08-2009, 06:44 AM

Merged new thread into existing one.

blogposter12 · 09-11-2009, 01:39 PM

Ya man, a bad movie is worse than nothing. at least it's not a waste of time.

TurinTurambar · 09-20-2009, 01:27 AM

Who knows what they are gonna be like no one can know. However i am curious to see what they add or subtract from the Hobbit. Do you think we will see the iron hills? or better yet will gimli be in the battle of the 5 armies? I believe he is in his 20's when it happens so he could very well be in there. Also do you think they wil include Beorn? Its going to be exciting to see how things turn out. Being that i love the dwarves im very excited to see how an army of them work. It will also be interesting if we see any elves that we know of. I could be wrong but isnt it possible we could see legolas there too?

Fool_of_a_Took · 10-19-2009, 09:00 PM

I'm interested to see the casting of Thorin and the other Dwarves, as well as how Smaug is portrayed. I hope that he's not overly cga'd. Jackson, Serkis and the WETA workshop really did a phenomenal job with Gollum, I can only hope that someone can step up and do the same for the dragon.

I hope that Beorn is included in a movie of the Hobbit. Because of the length of the LOTR movies a good number of less major (but still great) plot details such as Tom Bombadil and the barrow-wights were left out of the screenplay. As much as I love Tom Bombadil, the barrow-wights would have been very impressive and very creepy on the big screen...

barrelrider110 · 10-19-2009, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fool_of_a_Took

I'm interested to see the casting of Thorin and the other Dwarves, as well as how Smaug is portrayed. I hope that he's not overly cga'd. Jackson, Serkis and the WETA workshop really did a phenomenal job with Gollum, I can only hope that someone can step up and do the same for the dragon.

I hope that Beorn is included in a movie of the Hobbit. Because of the length of the LOTR movies a good number of less major (but still great) plot details such as Tom Bombadil and the barrow-wights were left out of the screenplay. As much as I love Tom Bombadil, the barrow-wights would have been very impressive and very creepy on the big screen...

Yes, Beorn was awesome. And a vegetarian.

barrelrider110 · 12-09-2009, 01:31 PM

I like the idea of two movies. If the first is based on the 80 year old novel, then perhaps he will leave well enough alone and stick with the text. After Hobbit II is released I can read what all you mooters have to say and then decide whether or not it's worth my nickel and time.

12-22-2008, 12:38 PM	#61
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	My nightmare involves The Hobbit and this "inbetween" story being blown out of proportion. I mean, you'd think they naturally wouldn't go as far as amassing millions of soldiers like they did in RotK. I want the Hobbit movie to be its own thing, and not merely a prelude to LotR. The Hobbit should have a warmer feel to it, more relaxed. No "this is the final moment" crap. No overwrought melodramatic hodgepodge. Have I made myself clear yet? __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

12-22-2008, 01:26 PM	#62
Mari Elf Lady Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In the lands where mountains are but a fairytale Posts: 8,588	Abundantly But I do agree with you that the Hobbit, though a prelude to the LotR, should be separate. It's a 'happy' story with a good ending and just not as serious in tone as the LotR and should thus be portrayed. __________________ Love always, deeply and true ★ Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer. ★ Friendship is sharing openly, laughing often, trusting always, caring deeply. ...The Earth laughs in flowers ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Hamatreya"... Last edited by Mari : 12-22-2008 at 01:36 PM. Reason: finishing my answer

12-22-2008, 02:54 PM	#64
Mari Elf Lady Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In the lands where mountains are but a fairytale Posts: 8,588	Drat. Ah well. I'll watch it anyway. Gotta have something to complain about, right? __________________ Love always, deeply and true ★ Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer. ★ Friendship is sharing openly, laughing often, trusting always, caring deeply. ...The Earth laughs in flowers ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Hamatreya"...

12-22-2008, 10:49 PM	#65
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	Pentalogy. As if that was the most important thing! Hmph! More like Satanology, what they're doing . Oh well. Like Mari says, we'll watch it if only to complain about it... I'm sure they won't get everything wrong. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

12-23-2008, 09:09 PM	#67
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	I wonder if Christopher Tolkien would like to direct the Hobbit movie himself... __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

12-23-2008, 11:31 PM	#68
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	I think Christopher Tolkien regrets that his father ever sold the movie rights at all. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

12-23-2008, 11:34 PM	#69
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	More and more, I find myself with those same sentiments. It's a pretty pathetic world where a cartoon is more faithful to a classic book than the live-action movie. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

12-24-2008, 08:44 AM	#70
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Well, Tolkien needed money, so he sold the rights. A good idea would have been to sell them to some trustworthy company, not likely to make a mess out of the adaptation and try to negociate the right to edit the script himself and later transmit this right to Chris... But unfortunately he didn't think of it, it seems. And then the new owner could re-sell the rights as he pleased...

12-24-2008, 01:46 PM	#71
The Dread Pirate Roberts Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 987	I think the contract the professor signed was a product of the times. Had the rights remained with the Tolkien Estate until the 1990s, the Jackson films would have been quite different and the Tolkiens would have made a lot more money with a lot more input into the process, assuming the films ever got made at all. Selling movie rights to your book today is much different than it was back in the 50s and 60s. __________________ ~The DPR "Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning."

02-10-2009, 06:37 PM	#72
Mark of Cenla Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: central Louisiana Posts: 105	I am happy about both movies, and I hope the in the future I will be able to watch all five movies. To each his/her own. Peace and goodwill. __________________ Mark Wellman ><>

03-26-2009, 08:08 PM	#73
shesabrandybuck Hero of Hyrule Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyrule Posts: 1,052	Does anyone know what is already Official for the new Hobbit movie? Just some straight up facts? __________________ Ho! Ho! Ho! to the bottle I go To heal my heart and drown my woe. Rain may fall and wind may blow, And many miles be still to go, But under a tree I will lie, And let the clouds go sailing by. twitter

06-08-2009, 04:40 AM	#74
frank lampard Sapling Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3	The hobbit Cant wait for the new movie.Smile dont know who can pull off bilbo the character bar ian holms but it will be interesting to see.. and it will be kinda silly to see ian mckellen looking older as gandalf then he did lord of the rings.. i wonder how they are going to fix that???

06-08-2009, 06:44 AM	#75
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Merged new thread into existing one. __________________ We are not things.

09-11-2009, 01:39 PM	#76
blogposter12 Sapling Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6	Ya man, a bad movie is worse than nothing. at least it's not a waste of time.

09-20-2009, 01:27 AM	#77
TurinTurambar Sapling Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 12	Who knows what they are gonna be like no one can know. However i am curious to see what they add or subtract from the Hobbit. Do you think we will see the iron hills? or better yet will gimli be in the battle of the 5 armies? I believe he is in his 20's when it happens so he could very well be in there. Also do you think they wil include Beorn? Its going to be exciting to see how things turn out. Being that i love the dwarves im very excited to see how an army of them work. It will also be interesting if we see any elves that we know of. I could be wrong but isnt it possible we could see legolas there too? Last edited by TurinTurambar : 09-27-2009 at 05:10 PM.

10-19-2009, 09:00 PM	#78
Fool_of_a_Took Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hobbiton, New Jersey Posts: 35	I'm interested to see the casting of Thorin and the other Dwarves, as well as how Smaug is portrayed. I hope that he's not overly cga'd. Jackson, Serkis and the WETA workshop really did a phenomenal job with Gollum, I can only hope that someone can step up and do the same for the dragon. I hope that Beorn is included in a movie of the Hobbit. Because of the length of the LOTR movies a good number of less major (but still great) plot details such as Tom Bombadil and the barrow-wights were left out of the screenplay. As much as I love Tom Bombadil, the barrow-wights would have been very impressive and very creepy on the big screen... __________________ "Fool of a Took! Throw yourself down next time, rid us of your nuisance!" "We're flat broke, but hey, we do it in style."

12-09-2009, 01:31 PM	#80
barrelrider110 Peer of the realm of Sanguine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Hill, Marlton, NJ Posts: 798	I like the idea of two movies. If the first is based on the 80 year old novel, then perhaps he will leave well enough alone and stick with the text. After Hobbit II is released I can read what all you mooters have to say and then decide whether or not it's worth my nickel and time. __________________ “"I am the friend of bears and the guest of eagles. I am Ringwinner and Luckwearer; and I am Barrel-rider," Fear Complacency! ___________________ Something under the bed is drooling

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