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12-20-2008, 11:53 PM | #1 |
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But surely Jackson can't just go around making up new storylines for Middle-Earth...
I've heard that he is developing an "in between" story to take place between The Hobbit and LOTR. Now, in more scholarly hands I would be ok with this. But I thought RotK was a failure in comparison to FotR, and I sort of gave up on him making The Hobbit faithfully. I expect it to be overblown and pompous. *sigh* And The Hobbit is my favorite JRRT book.
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12-21-2008, 10:58 PM | #2 |
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I'm honestly not sure how it all works from a legal standpoint. All I know is that the movie rights to LotR and The Hobbit were sold. Movie rights to other Tolkien Middle Earth works were not. How much invented material can be added to Hobbit movies in the name of artistic license without infringing on rights? And what if some of that material is pulled from UT or HoME? I don't know the answers to those questions but I would imagine the Tolkien Estate's lawyers do.
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12-21-2008, 11:12 PM | #3 |
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you mean Jackson & Jackson and co?
..that'd be a smart move ..esp if there were still any lingering resentment with New line over Royalties ... Last edited by Butterbeer : 12-21-2008 at 11:13 PM. |
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12-22-2008, 12:38 PM | #5 |
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My nightmare involves The Hobbit and this "inbetween" story being blown out of proportion. I mean, you'd think they naturally wouldn't go as far as amassing millions of soldiers like they did in RotK.
I want the Hobbit movie to be its own thing, and not merely a prelude to LotR. The Hobbit should have a warmer feel to it, more relaxed. No "this is the final moment" crap. No overwrought melodramatic hodgepodge. Have I made myself clear yet?
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12-22-2008, 01:26 PM | #6 |
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But I do agree with you that the Hobbit, though a prelude to the LotR, should be separate. It's a 'happy' story with a good ending and just not as serious in tone as the LotR and should thus be portrayed.
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That's not what the producers or director are shooting for. It's going to be a prequel with the very same tone as the other three movies.
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12-23-2008, 05:23 AM | #8 |
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Oh, how that is exactly not what purists like me like to hear. I want The Hobbit in one piece, so if the bridge movie sucks too much, I can just forget about it. They better not try to split the story up between two movies.
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12-22-2008, 02:54 PM | #9 |
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Drat.
Ah well. I'll watch it anyway. Gotta have something to complain about, right?
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Pentalogy. As if that was the most important thing! Hmph! More like Satanology, what they're doing .
Oh well. Like Mari says, we'll watch it if only to complain about it... I'm sure they won't get everything wrong.
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12-23-2008, 09:09 PM | #11 |
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I wonder if Christopher Tolkien would like to direct the Hobbit movie himself...
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12-23-2008, 11:31 PM | #12 |
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I think Christopher Tolkien regrets that his father ever sold the movie rights at all.
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12-23-2008, 11:34 PM | #13 |
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More and more, I find myself with those same sentiments. It's a pretty pathetic world where a cartoon is more faithful to a classic book than the live-action movie.
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Well, Tolkien needed money, so he sold the rights. A good idea would have been to sell them to some trustworthy company, not likely to make a mess out of the adaptation and try to negociate the right to edit the script himself and later transmit this right to Chris... But unfortunately he didn't think of it, it seems. And then the new owner could re-sell the rights as he pleased...
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12-24-2008, 01:46 PM | #15 |
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I think the contract the professor signed was a product of the times. Had the rights remained with the Tolkien Estate until the 1990s, the Jackson films would have been quite different and the Tolkiens would have made a lot more money with a lot more input into the process, assuming the films ever got made at all. Selling movie rights to your book today is much different than it was back in the 50s and 60s.
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I am happy about both movies, and I hope the in the future I will be able to watch all five movies. To each his/her own. Peace and goodwill.
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Does anyone know what is already Official for the new Hobbit movie? Just some straight up facts?
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06-08-2009, 04:40 AM | #18 |
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The hobbit
Cant wait for the new movie.Smile dont know who can pull off bilbo the character bar ian holms but it will be interesting to see..
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Merged new thread into existing one.
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09-11-2009, 01:39 PM | #20 |
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Ya man, a bad movie is worse than nothing. at least it's not a waste of time.
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