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Any progress/new thoughts on Lewis works, anyone?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun!  Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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10-21-2002, 06:38 PM
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I finished "Till We Have Faces", and I don't know what to say. Working on "Out of Silent Planet". I'm also reading a book called "Illusions: The Tale of a Reluctant Messiah", which a composer is basing a song on (that our school commisioned! How cool is that!)
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10-21-2002, 06:55 PM
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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10-21-2002, 09:29 PM
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I'm reading Allegory of Love for my paper on Medieval Literature. It's tons harder (less conversational, more academic), but still interesting. Anything Lewis, right?
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10-22-2002, 11:57 AM
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*searches thru Lewis archives* Drat, can't find it! (Allegory of Love) I wonder if I loaned it out, or just never bought it? Also, I seem to be missing "the four loves" or whatever that book is called... I need to start a lending-list sheet or something. Yes, "anything Lewis" is just fine with me! I'd like to discuss some of his letters when I get some extra time, they're fascinating. Have you guys read them?
Starr, if you would, could you please elaborate on "don't know what to say"? I'm curious if your reaction was like my first one, which also included "has Lewis gone wacko?" But as you can see if you read our earlier posts, crickhollow and I both think it has some really profound thoughts in it.Have you reached Malacandra yet, or are they still on earth?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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10-22-2002, 07:56 PM
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How about the great divorce, Rian or SP? there's a load of stuff to digest in that one!
You know, I think you can surface read lewis and enjoy the basic story, but when you go back over it, and mull over each assertion, metaphor, and plot twist, you get so much more out of it. He's not like Dostoyevski or someone that should come with a warning label for inexperienced readers, but going slowly and thoughtfully yields so much!
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10-23-2002, 06:51 AM
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10-23-2002, 08:51 PM
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I've been far too busy to read much lately, hopefully that will change soon. I left "Out of Silent Planet" in the TAG room today...poo. No, they're still on the space ship. I'm going to have to read that part over again to understand what Weston is saying..oi.
Hmm...well, I really don't know what to say about TWHF. it didn't seem to have any great significance to me as a book, other than being a great retelling of a myth. I'm not very good at picking up on things the first read through (I can't believe all the stuff I missed in LOTR!). I found it very sad, but horrifying at the same time.
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10-24-2002, 09:15 AM
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I've started reading a collection of Lewis' literary essays. Unfortunately I'm nowhere near as well-read as he is, so I don't understand most of it
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10-26-2002, 02:20 AM
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Oh, I've always wanted to know more about Charles Williams - I know Tolkien wasn't exactly wild about him, and in Tolkien's opinion, Lewis was too influenced by him. I know nothing about CW. Could you fill me in a bit as you read? I'd appreciate it!
And for all - what do you think of The Great Divorce? For me, it was the first thing that gave a reasonable answer to the dilemma "how can anyone in Heaven be happy if there is even one soul in Hell?"
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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10-27-2002, 10:10 PM
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For all my fellow Lewis fans:
Just found out there's a movie out there based on his life, starring Anthony Hopkins. It's called Shadowland, I think.
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10-27-2002, 10:20 PM
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OMGOODNESS, Starr (and others) you simply MUST see that movie! It is wonderful!!! (and better than the Christian version, I've heard). There's one part in there - (we saw it in a theater the first time) - I have NEVER heard an audience so quiet!! Wonderful, and really funny, too! Anyone else seen it?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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10-28-2002, 01:29 PM
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I thought Anthony Hopkins made a good CS Lewis, even though he doesn't look a thing like him.
It's a great movie.
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10-28-2002, 05:08 PM
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Starr, please let me know after you've seen it - I was going to put a couple of comments about it here, but I think I'd rather wait until you've seen it.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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10-28-2002, 07:12 PM
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I'll have to find it first. I have no idea if local videostores carry it.
Go ahead and post, use the spoiler thingy.
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. Well, Charles Williams was born in 1886 and, unlike Tolkien and Lewis, was educated at a grammar school and didn't complete university for financial reasons. He taught evening classes and worked for the Oxford University Press (based in London), and wrote some novels. While proof-reading Lewis' Allegory of Love for publication, and admiring it, he received a letter from Lewis praising his book 'The Place of the Lion'. They corresponded, and when the OUP moved to Oxford at the beginning of WW2 Williams began to attend Inklings meetings. He remained in Oxford for the rest of his life and died in 1945.I haven't read any of his books, but apparently he was very interested in magic and the supernatural (this seems to be what Tolkien disapproved of) and was an expert on Dante's idea of love. I believe most of his books are out of print. Hope that helps
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10-30-2002, 06:56 PM
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Update! I'm on about chapter 12 of "Out of Silent Planet", when he's been with the hrossa for awhile. Hmm...interesting, Thulcandra. Also, I don't think the séroni are as bad as Devine and Weston thought they were.
What was that thing in the water that got Devine? 
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Ooohhhh, interesting parts ahead .... chpt 13 and the first part of 14 are some of my favorite parts - keep us posted!
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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Ah, a hnakra, of course.
I'm now on Perelandra. I didn't realize until the end of "Out of Silent Planet that the planet was, well...
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Well, didja like it? Huh? Huh? Funny how the Hrossa prefaced everything with 'h', wasn't it? Just one of those funny little details that make the world more real, like Tolkien threw in all the time. And the part I really liked, and I think is applicable to Christians, is how Ransom kept on with his resolution to go to Oyarsa, because he knew it was right, even when he got scared.
Perelandra is much more serious - keep us posted! It's fun to "go thru them again for the first time" with you! It gets rather heavy in the end.... and then really glorious.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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