Pippa Boyens Excoriated for Horrible Screenplay on National Radio

bropous · 12-04-2003, 08:54 PM

Well, ol' bropous strikes a blow for the honor of JRR:

On the nationally syndicated talk radio show "The Hugh Hewitt Show", Pippa Boyens had been slated to appear for a full hour with Hugh. Hugh is a lover of Tolkien as well, and he was rather excited to talk with her about the upcoming film, and his main issue was, "What happened to Tom Bombadil?"

Well, NewLine called the show about five minutes before the show, with Boyens on the line for the interview. Unfortunately, the hapless Hugh failed to tell his producer, Dwayne, that Boyens was scheduled for the hour. Dwayne told New Line he didn't have her on the schedule, and hung up on them!!!!

Hugh was (humorously) flabbergasted, and assailed Dwayne for killing the interview. So, I called the show as Hugh was asking for ways to punish Dwayne, his producer.

I called the show, got on the air with Hugh, and told him I thought Dwayne should be rewarded, not punished, as Boyens had absolutely butchered the story!

After I gave the address of Entmoot and gave a big acknowledgement to Ben Milder for running the 'Moot, Hugh and I went back-and-forth, and I found him to be rather uninformed as the film goes, as he wasn't aware that the Scouring of the Shire and Saruman and Wormtongue's scenes were deleted. When I told him that is what the word is, he screeched that I was spoiling the upcoming film.

So, I countered with material from the first two films: Turning of Arwen into Xena Elf Warrior at the Fords of Bruinen, Aragorn's "death scene" in Two Towers, as well as the attack of the wargs on the Rohirrim on the way to Helm's Deep. I even got him to pull up the Moot on his monitor while we were on the radio!

I wrapped up my brief appearance by restating my assertion: "Jackson's Lord of the Rings is as bad a rendition of a book as deLaurentis' butchering of Dune!" Hugh howled, I could tell he didn't agree, but I have a feeling ol' Hugh the law professor might start looking at the 'Moot to find out what we're saying. He's read the books twenty-plus times, which means he has far more to offer than, say, BB. Unfortunately, the poor devil looks like Ralphie from "A Christmas Story"!!!!

If anyone is interested in hearing the Voice of Bropous assailing Phippa Boyens on national radio, got to http://www.hughhewitt.com/ and check out the second hour of the Hugh Hewitt show for Thursday, December 4. Listen for the call from "Joel" from Colorado Springs!

The new convert is on the Crusade on a national level.....top that, jd and BoP!

[edited only for spelling and name corrections]

jerseydevil · 12-04-2003, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by bropous
The new convert is on the Crusade on a national level.....top that, jd and BoP!

First I have to say GREAT job. But I also have to say - it took you two years - you have a lot of make up time.

This only gets you close to my level.

SGH said this removes the egg from your face now however.

***gdl96*** · 12-04-2003, 09:29 PM

Well it's cool you mentioned Ben and the moot on the radio. But what's the deal with all the LOTR hating?

Don't answer that

I think this has been discussed more than enough times here.

jerseydevil · 12-04-2003, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by gdl96
Well it's cool you mentioned Ben and the moot on the radio. But what's the deal with all the LOTR hating?

Don't answer that I think this has been discussed more than enough times here.

We don't hate Lord of the Rings. We LOVE Lord of the Rings - we hate Jackson's movies. As strange as it may seem - there is a difference. I can hate the movies and love the books.

bropous · 12-04-2003, 09:35 PM

Just a fast explanation, gdl:

I just finally gave up the hope that the third film will redeem what Jackson has done to Tolkien's works. Christopher Lee's actions have told me more than I wanted to know.

Wayfarer · 12-04-2003, 09:41 PM

Tuor of Gondolin · 12-04-2003, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by Bropous
So, I countered with material from the first two films: Turning of Arwen into Xena Elf Warrior at the Fords of Bruinen, Aragorn's "death scene" in Two Towers, as well as the attack of the wargs on the Rohirrim on the way to Helm's Deep.
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So you didn't mention the ridiculous way Merry and Pippin went with Frodo and Sam, the wargs looking like they were steroid warriors, and the exorcism?

Rats, I listen to PBS when I get the chance. Ah, how about a Bropous vs. P. Boyens debate on PBS?

Lizra · 12-04-2003, 10:50 PM

My goodness! You did all that!

And to think, I've just been doing laundry!

Wow Bropous!

Don't have a coronary!

bropous · 12-04-2003, 11:35 PM

Lizra, I'd bet a dollar to a donut hole that doing laundry would have been a far more constructive use of my time....

Captain Stern · 12-05-2003, 05:06 AM

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Bropous: If anyone is interested in hearing the Voice of Bropous assailing Phippa Boyens on national radio, got to http://www.hughhewitt.com/ and check out the second hour of the Hugh Hewitt show for Thursday, December 4. Listen for the call from "Joel" from Colorado Springs!

I can't seem to find it...

**Nurvingiel** · 12-06-2003, 06:53 PM

Nice work Bropus. Hey, listen to Lizra, she's looking out for your health!

Ruinel · 12-06-2003, 07:46 PM

I can't find it either.

Damn, that really sucks.

Goldberry1 · 12-06-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Captain Stern
I can't seem to find it...

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Originally posted by Ruinel
I can't find it either. Damn, that really sucks.

i'm having the same trouble... i started clicking around on the site and found nothing!

mithrand1r · 12-06-2003, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Goldberry1
i'm having the same trouble... i started clicking around on the site and found nothing!

Same here. If possible, please check the location again. The website may have moved it as well.

kennebecc · 12-06-2003, 10:03 PM

Wow. I can not imagine that Tolkien would condone rudeness.

Captain Stern · 12-06-2003, 10:04 PM

Maybe he'll reply now that a girl has asked?

**Nurvingiel** · 12-06-2003, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by kennebecc
Wow. I can not imagine that Tolkien would condone rudeness.

What on earth does that have to do with anything? Not intending to be rude of course.

I'd like to see the link too, and I'm a girl. Adding to the girl-asking power going around here. Just kidding. I'm sure he always intended to resolve our link problems.

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-07-2003, 06:31 AM

Kennebecc: Out of curiosity, how much do you know about Tolkien? How many biographies have you read? What about his Letters?

12-04-2003, 08:54 PM	#1
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Pippa Boyens Excoriated for Horrible Screenplay on National Radio Well, ol' bropous strikes a blow for the honor of JRR: On the nationally syndicated talk radio show "The Hugh Hewitt Show", Pippa Boyens had been slated to appear for a full hour with Hugh. Hugh is a lover of Tolkien as well, and he was rather excited to talk with her about the upcoming film, and his main issue was, "What happened to Tom Bombadil?" Well, NewLine called the show about five minutes before the show, with Boyens on the line for the interview. Unfortunately, the hapless Hugh failed to tell his producer, Dwayne, that Boyens was scheduled for the hour. Dwayne told New Line he didn't have her on the schedule, and hung up on them!!!! Hugh was (humorously) flabbergasted, and assailed Dwayne for killing the interview. So, I called the show as Hugh was asking for ways to punish Dwayne, his producer. I called the show, got on the air with Hugh, and told him I thought Dwayne should be rewarded, not punished, as Boyens had absolutely butchered the story! After I gave the address of Entmoot and gave a big acknowledgement to Ben Milder for running the 'Moot, Hugh and I went back-and-forth, and I found him to be rather uninformed as the film goes, as he wasn't aware that the Scouring of the Shire and Saruman and Wormtongue's scenes were deleted. When I told him that is what the word is, he screeched that I was spoiling the upcoming film. So, I countered with material from the first two films: Turning of Arwen into Xena Elf Warrior at the Fords of Bruinen, Aragorn's "death scene" in Two Towers, as well as the attack of the wargs on the Rohirrim on the way to Helm's Deep. I even got him to pull up the Moot on his monitor while we were on the radio! I wrapped up my brief appearance by restating my assertion: "Jackson's Lord of the Rings is as bad a rendition of a book as deLaurentis' butchering of Dune!" Hugh howled, I could tell he didn't agree, but I have a feeling ol' Hugh the law professor might start looking at the 'Moot to find out what we're saying. He's read the books twenty-plus times, which means he has far more to offer than, say, BB. Unfortunately, the poor devil looks like Ralphie from "A Christmas Story"!!!! If anyone is interested in hearing the Voice of Bropous assailing Phippa Boyens on national radio, got to http://www.hughhewitt.com/ and check out the second hour of the Hugh Hewitt show for Thursday, December 4. Listen for the call from "Joel" from Colorado Springs! The new convert is on the Crusade on a national level.....top that, jd and BoP! [edited only for spelling and name corrections] __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160. Last edited by bropous : 12-04-2003 at 09:49 PM.

12-04-2003, 09:35 PM	#5
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Just a fast explanation, gdl: I just finally gave up the hope that the third film will redeem what Jackson has done to Tolkien's works. Christopher Lee's actions have told me more than I wanted to know. __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

12-04-2003, 09:41 PM	#6
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	__________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

12-04-2003, 10:45 PM	#7
Tuor of Gondolin Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 1,215	Originally posted by Bropous So, I countered with material from the first two films: Turning of Arwen into Xena Elf Warrior at the Fords of Bruinen, Aragorn's "death scene" in Two Towers, as well as the attack of the wargs on the Rohirrim on the way to Helm's Deep. ___________________________________ So you didn't mention the ridiculous way Merry and Pippin went with Frodo and Sam, the wargs looking like they were steroid warriors, and the exorcism? Rats, I listen to PBS when I get the chance. Ah, how about a Bropous vs. P. Boyens debate on PBS? __________________ Democrat for Kerry-Edwards! Take Back America Aure entuluva!

12-04-2003, 10:50 PM	#8
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	My goodness! You did all that! And to think, I've just been doing laundry! Wow Bropous! Don't have a coronary! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

12-04-2003, 09:29 PM	#3
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	Well it's cool you mentioned Ben and the moot on the radio. But what's the deal with all the LOTR hating? Don't answer that I think this has been discussed more than enough times here.

12-04-2003, 11:35 PM	#9
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Lizra, I'd bet a dollar to a donut hole that doing laundry would have been a far more constructive use of my time.... __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

12-06-2003, 07:46 PM	#12
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	I can't find it either. Damn, that really sucks.

12-06-2003, 10:03 PM	#15
kennebecc Hobbit Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: US Posts: 35	Wow. I can not imagine that Tolkien would condone rudeness. Last edited by kennebecc : 12-06-2003 at 10:04 PM.

12-06-2003, 10:04 PM	#16
Captain Stern Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 319	Maybe he'll reply now that a girl has asked? __________________ Then hate overcame Fëanor's fear, and he cursed Melkor and bade him be gone, saying 'Get thee gone from my gate, thou jail-crow of Mandos!' And he shut the doors of his house in the face of the mightiest of all dwellers in Eä.

12-07-2003, 06:31 AM	#18
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Kennebecc: Out of curiosity, how much do you know about Tolkien? How many biographies have you read? What about his Letters? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle