Favourite Valar?

webwizard333 · 01-21-2002, 03:33 PM

My favourite Valar would have to be Aule. He created the substances of earth and devised many new things for the world. I also liked how he didn't mind sharing his secrets to the Noldor, and how he gave freely to all. He's sort of like what Melkor might have been if he had not been so corrupted by hate.
Whose your favourite Valar?

Ñólendil · 01-21-2002, 06:22 PM

I have two: Nienna and Yavanna. I mean, if I was a Maia I'd serve those two. Their realms of authority go with my interests and values very well.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-21-2002, 07:23 PM

Varda, and Yavanna. Because Varda made the stars, and if you're an Elf like myself than Varda is the girl. Yavanna for all the pretty growing things and the Two Trees. You should have seen them. They were beautiful.

Captain Stern · 01-21-2002, 07:31 PM

Ulmo of course!

Sirithdal · 01-22-2002, 12:02 AM

Orome. The hunter of monsters. He loved Middle Earth most and left it unwillingly. He loved dogs and horses, trees and forests. If he was less strong than Tulkas, he was more terrible in his dispatch of the fell beasts he hunted in Iluvatar's Middle Earth. He'd even been known to appear in the earlier days of Middle Earth with his dogs and horses blowing his great horn rustling up a few nasties. He was a regular Balrog-kicking, Melkor-cleaning machine! I'd love to see and hear a Balrog haul ass as he squeals away in the dark abyss in terror of Orome's whip. Yeah, maybe there will be a Jackson-level film or two for The Sil. Oh yeah!

FrodoFriend · 01-22-2002, 12:21 AM

Ulmo for me too! He's lord of the seas! And he's different from the other Valar, more reclusive and independent. Varda is of course cool as well.

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-22-2002, 12:25 AM

Tulkas.

Sauron's Nagging Wife · 01-23-2002, 05:55 PM

Tulkas, definitely. He was a barrel of laughs.

In the old days, before the hubby went bad, we used to have a rollicking good time together.

mirrille · 01-24-2002, 03:56 AM

I like Ulmo.
He's more independent, but he's one of the good guys. He may not be hanging out with the other valar alot, but he has a very good relationship with the elves, especially the sea elves.

Sirithdal · 01-24-2002, 11:50 AM

Yes, deep and fathomless are his thoughts which run often to the rivers and rills and he speaks to those who dwell in Middle-earth with voices that are heard only as the music of water.

markedel · 01-24-2002, 12:53 PM

The best of Valar is Manwe because he has the most influence of all the valar.

***Earniel*** · 01-24-2002, 05:06 PM

Nienna who cares for all and Nessa of whom I wish she had been more prominent in the silmarillion. Although Ulmo is one of my favorites too.

MasterMothra · 01-29-2002, 01:16 AM

melkor

i thought his music was better that illuvitar's.

Sirithdal · 01-29-2002, 03:31 AM

How very nice of you to join us, John.

markedel · 01-29-2002, 09:35 AM

Melkor is not one of the valar

he's been expunged from their noble company.

MasterMothra · 01-29-2002, 11:44 PM

sorry sirithdal, you must have me mixed with someone else.
valar , ainur , whats the diff.

Nibs · 02-01-2002, 11:16 PM

Mandos, but not by far. He seemed to be the most wise because he was somewhat removed from Arda, if you catch my meaning.

Remember when the Valar decided to summon the Elves to Valinor and Mandos said "So it is doomed"? That's all. It took me a second time reading it to see how prognostic his statements were. He said little, but it was like a revelation that doesn't make sense until it happens.

Curufinwe · 02-08-2002, 04:39 PM

You've got to love Mandos. His knowledge, prophesies, killer stuff man. Nor did he ever seek to increase his own power over others or speak the future unless bidden by Manwe.

bropous · 02-14-2002, 01:28 PM

My favorite Valar has to be Melkor/Morgoth. He was the mightiest of the Valar, and the entire company of his younger "siblings" could not really kick his hinder. Melkie-boy ran roughshod over all of Middle-Earth for centuries, swatting pesky elves and men out of his way and in general causing the entire population east of the Belfalas loose the contents of their bowels any time he even THOUGHT about coming out his house to patrol the hood.

; )

noldorlord · 02-14-2002, 05:56 PM

I am so splilt between:
Ulmo: god of the seas,loner, helper of teleri, visitation of tuor

tulkas: wrestler dude, loved beating up melkor, barrel of laughs

orome: discovered elves, led them to the island, monster hunter, horse rider

so hard to choose, I thought manwe was too poncy and aule does not have much to do with story after creating dwarves, (correct me if wrong)

01-21-2002, 03:33 PM	#1
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	Favourite Valar? My favourite Valar would have to be Aule. He created the substances of earth and devised many new things for the world. I also liked how he didn't mind sharing his secrets to the Noldor, and how he gave freely to all. He's sort of like what Melkor might have been if he had not been so corrupted by hate. Whose your favourite Valar? __________________ Boo!

01-21-2002, 06:22 PM	#2
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	I have two: Nienna and Yavanna. I mean, if I was a Maia I'd serve those two. Their realms of authority go with my interests and values very well. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

01-21-2002, 07:31 PM	#4
Captain Stern Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 319	RE Ulmo of course! __________________ Then hate overcame Fëanor's fear, and he cursed Melkor and bade him be gone, saying 'Get thee gone from my gate, thou jail-crow of Mandos!' And he shut the doors of his house in the face of the mightiest of all dwellers in Eä.

01-22-2002, 12:02 AM	#5
Sirithdal Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 44	My favorite Valar Orome. The hunter of monsters. He loved Middle Earth most and left it unwillingly. He loved dogs and horses, trees and forests. If he was less strong than Tulkas, he was more terrible in his dispatch of the fell beasts he hunted in Iluvatar's Middle Earth. He'd even been known to appear in the earlier days of Middle Earth with his dogs and horses blowing his great horn rustling up a few nasties. He was a regular Balrog-kicking, Melkor-cleaning machine! I'd love to see and hear a Balrog haul ass as he squeals away in the dark abyss in terror of Orome's whip. Yeah, maybe there will be a Jackson-level film or two for The Sil. Oh yeah! Last edited by Sirithdal : 01-24-2002 at 01:23 AM.

01-22-2002, 12:21 AM	#6
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Ulmo for me too! He's lord of the seas! And he's different from the other Valar, more reclusive and independent. Varda is of course cool as well. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-21-2002, 07:23 PM	#3
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Varda, and Yavanna. Because Varda made the stars, and if you're an Elf like myself than Varda is the girl. Yavanna for all the pretty growing things and the Two Trees. You should have seen them. They were beautiful.

01-22-2002, 12:25 AM	#7
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	Tulkas.

01-23-2002, 05:55 PM	#8
Sauron's Nagging Wife Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Great Tower of Mordor Posts: 68	Tulkas, definitely. He was a barrel of laughs. In the old days, before the hubby went bad, we used to have a rollicking good time together. __________________ "Will you stop fussing over that silly ring and come and eat your dinner before it gets cold?" ~Legrace, the Lady of the Great Tower Read about the Lady Legrace

01-24-2002, 03:56 AM	#9
mirrille Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 479	I like Ulmo. He's more independent, but he's one of the good guys. He may not be hanging out with the other valar alot, but he has a very good relationship with the elves, especially the sea elves.

01-24-2002, 11:50 AM	#10
Sirithdal Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 44	Yes, deep and fathomless are his thoughts which run often to the rivers and rills and he speaks to those who dwell in Middle-earth with voices that are heard only as the music of water.

01-24-2002, 12:53 PM	#11
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	The best of Valar is Manwe because he has the most influence of all the valar.

01-24-2002, 05:06 PM	#12
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Nienna who cares for all and Nessa of whom I wish she had been more prominent in the silmarillion. Although Ulmo is one of my favorites too.

01-29-2002, 01:16 AM	#13
MasterMothra Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: utumno and angband Posts: 241	melkor i thought his music was better that illuvitar's. __________________ "........and his name is Melkor, Lord of All, Giver of Freedom, and he shall make you stronger than they."- sauron talking to ar pharazon. Last edited by MasterMothra : 01-29-2002 at 01:20 AM.

01-29-2002, 03:31 AM	#14
Sirithdal Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 44	To MasterMothra How very nice of you to join us, John.

01-29-2002, 09:35 AM	#15
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	Melkor is not one of the valar he's been expunged from their noble company. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

01-29-2002, 11:44 PM	#16
MasterMothra Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: utumno and angband Posts: 241	sorry sirithdal, you must have me mixed with someone else. valar , ainur , whats the diff. __________________ "........and his name is Melkor, Lord of All, Giver of Freedom, and he shall make you stronger than they."- sauron talking to ar pharazon.

02-01-2002, 11:16 PM	#17
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Mandos, but not by far. He seemed to be the most wise because he was somewhat removed from Arda, if you catch my meaning. Remember when the Valar decided to summon the Elves to Valinor and Mandos said "So it is doomed"? That's all. It took me a second time reading it to see how prognostic his statements were. He said little, but it was like a revelation that doesn't make sense until it happens. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

02-08-2002, 04:39 PM	#18
Curufinwe Enting Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New England Posts: 59	You've got to love Mandos. His knowledge, prophesies, killer stuff man. Nor did he ever seek to increase his own power over others or speak the future unless bidden by Manwe.

02-14-2002, 01:28 PM	#19
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	My favorite Valar has to be Melkor/Morgoth. He was the mightiest of the Valar, and the entire company of his younger "siblings" could not really kick his hinder. Melkie-boy ran roughshod over all of Middle-Earth for centuries, swatting pesky elves and men out of his way and in general causing the entire population east of the Belfalas loose the contents of their bowels any time he even THOUGHT about coming out his house to patrol the hood. ; ) __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

02-14-2002, 05:56 PM	#20
noldorlord Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: derbyshire, england Posts: 42	I am so splilt between: Ulmo: god of the seas,loner, helper of teleri, visitation of tuor tulkas: wrestler dude, loved beating up melkor, barrel of laughs orome: discovered elves, led them to the island, monster hunter, horse rider so hard to choose, I thought manwe was too poncy and aule does not have much to do with story after creating dwarves, (correct me if wrong) __________________ "fly you fools" - Gandalf

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