Frodo Baggins Charged With War Crimes

AACHOO · 07-08-2002, 11:43 AM

Just too funny.......but there are people who think like this in real life.

http://www.coldfury.com/Entries/00000163.html

Ñólendil · 07-08-2002, 07:56 PM

Very amusing indeed.

Though, the bit about the Uruks troubles me. So many are getting the wrong idea from the movie! Too many who have knowledge of the books in other matters aren't aware that the Uruk-hai and the Half-orcs are not one and the same. (Nor did Sam ever become the Mayor of Hobbiton, but that's another matter entirely).

emplynx · 07-08-2002, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
Too many who have knowledge of the books in other matters aren't aware that the Uruk-hai and the Half-orcs are not one and the same.

That still confuses me, Noli. I guess the impression I have in my head doesn't want to be changed.

The Ringbearer · 07-09-2002, 01:21 AM

Is there more besides that?

Poor Frodo. Taken into custody.......*sniff* ....to await trial.......

Ya know Manwe, now would be a great time to work some Valar magic......

samwise of the shire · 07-09-2002, 12:16 PM

I thought it wasn't that funny. I mean yeah picturing Sauron living in a box is kind of interesting to see in your minds eye but where does freedom of relegion come in? Putting LOTR to American political issues....nah bad form.
Sam

Wayfarer · 07-09-2002, 04:16 PM

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Nor did Sam ever become the Mayor of Hobbiton, but that's another matter entirely.

Sam did become mayor... although I'm not sure if the mayor was a hobbiton office.

Spock · 07-11-2002, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
Very amusing indeed.

(Nor did Sam ever become the Mayor of Hobbiton, but that's another matter entirely).

LOTR/ROTK APPENDIX B : 1427 WILL WHITFOOT RESIGNS. SAMWISE IS ELECTED MAYOR OF THE SHIRE.

samwiselvr2008 · 07-11-2002, 07:35 PM

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Nor did Sam ever become the Mayor of Hobbiton, but that's another matter entirely.
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read the appendix, it's in there somewhere! 7 times in a row i think!

Samwise Gamgee · 07-23-2002, 06:39 PM

I think where the confusion lies is that while Sam never became Mayor of Hobbiton IN ITSELF by being Mayor of the Shire he was by default mayor of Hobbiton. Like Bush is President of Delaware, but that ain't how the caption reads on CNN.
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**Nurvingiel** · 09-25-2002, 10:31 PM

The link didn't work for me for some reason. I would've liked to read it too...

Blackboar · 12-26-2002, 08:36 AM

Me too!!

Definately sounds funny!!

TinuvielChild · 12-26-2002, 03:35 PM

Why did the link work before, but not now?

**Nurvingiel** · 12-26-2002, 09:06 PM

try this link...

http://www.coldfury.com/archives/000184.php#000184

markedel · 12-27-2002, 04:57 PM

An interesting satirical peace, and sadly enough it has a point of sorts.

Amandil · 12-27-2002, 07:59 PM

What's so hard about keeping Half-orcs and Uruk-hai conceptually separate?

The first is only half of the second (putting it really simply).

My trouble would be keeping Half-orcs and southern Men visually separate.

The first look apparently quite a lot like the second (or something like that).

rbmingie · 12-30-2002, 10:33 PM

The URL should be:

http://www.coldfury.com/archives/000184.php#000184

ils · 01-03-2003, 07:27 PM

It's sad to see people making bad analogies with Tolkien in order to promote warmongering policies that Tolkien himself would probably have despised. Can't say I'm impressed.

Huan · 01-05-2003, 03:37 AM

Okay, that is some funny stuff.
On the other hand, I too don't get the exact distinction between the Uruk-Hai and half-orcs. I have never gotten it. Could someone break that down for me? As a Dungeons & Dragons player, I always figured that the half-orcs were what they were, and the Uruk-Hai corresponded to the D&D orogs, if anyone knows what I'm talking about, but I don't know the specifics of how this works in Tolkien's writing.

***azalea*** · 01-06-2003, 05:46 PM

There's some info in this thread about Uruks vs. half-orcs.

Huan · 01-06-2003, 08:51 PM

Thanks.

07-08-2002, 11:43 AM	#1
AACHOO Enting Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 52	Frodo Baggins Charged With War Crimes Just too funny.......but there are people who think like this in real life. http://www.coldfury.com/Entries/00000163.html

07-08-2002, 07:56 PM	#2
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Very amusing indeed. Though, the bit about the Uruks troubles me. So many are getting the wrong idea from the movie! Too many who have knowledge of the books in other matters aren't aware that the Uruk-hai and the Half-orcs are not one and the same. (Nor did Sam ever become the Mayor of Hobbiton, but that's another matter entirely). __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

07-09-2002, 01:21 AM	#4
The Ringbearer Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Crickhollow in the summer, and Rivendell in the winter Posts: 397	Is there more besides that? Poor Frodo. Taken into custody.......sniff ....to await trial....... Ya know Manwe, now would be a great time to work some Valar magic...... __________________ 'Go away, and never come back!!' '......what?' 'But you're a part of this world! Aren't you?' Frodo lives!

07-09-2002, 12:16 PM	#5
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	I thought it wasn't that funny. I mean yeah picturing Sauron living in a box is kind of interesting to see in your minds eye but where does freedom of relegion come in? Putting LOTR to American political issues....nah bad form. Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

07-11-2002, 07:35 PM	#8
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nor did Sam ever become the Mayor of Hobbiton, but that's another matter entirely. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- read the appendix, it's in there somewhere! 7 times in a row i think! __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

07-23-2002, 06:39 PM	#9
Samwise Gamgee Hobbit Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17	I think where the confusion lies is that while Sam never became Mayor of Hobbiton IN ITSELF by being Mayor of the Shire he was by default mayor of Hobbiton. Like Bush is President of Delaware, but that ain't how the caption reads on CNN. ________ Iolite review 2010 Last edited by Samwise Gamgee : 09-20-2011 at 02:48 AM.

09-25-2002, 10:31 PM	#10
Nurvingiel Co-President of Entmoot Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,397	And I bet it was funny too! The link didn't work for me for some reason. I would've liked to read it too...

12-26-2002, 08:36 AM	#11
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	Me too!! Definately sounds funny!!

12-26-2002, 03:35 PM	#12
TinuvielChild Padawan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Barony of Carolingia Posts: 2,176	Why did the link work before, but not now? __________________ There are only four questions of value in life: What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? The answer to each is the same: ONLY LOVE. Dance as though nobody's watching. Sing as though nobody's listening. Dream as though you'll live forever. Live as though you'll die tomorrow. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO and proud! FRODO LIVES!!!!!

12-27-2002, 04:57 PM	#14
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	An interesting satirical peace, and sadly enough it has a point of sorts. __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

12-27-2002, 07:59 PM	#15
Amandil Guy-who-should-come-here-more-often Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Alberta, in spirit -- Vlaanderen, in body (Canada? Never heard of it!) Posts: 120	What's so hard about keeping Half-orcs and Uruk-hai conceptually separate? The first is only half of the second (putting it really simply). My trouble would be keeping Half-orcs and southern Men visually separate. The first look apparently quite a lot like the second (or something like that). __________________ Amandil Mithadan "Why would you want to tamper with anything Tolkien did?" --Ralph Bashki "Seeking self, I find nothing but myself, but in this I drink the cup of gall I really am. I want everything, and I may have everything, but I have nothing except what I have. What I have I know is not what will fulfill me, and I know this in the bitterness of satisfied desire. Everything I have is still not enough, and in getting everything I have, I have not myself, indeed what I have may have twisted what I am and might be into an image of my own possessions. I will to possess, but I end up possessed by what I possess." -- William Desmond (Ethics and the Between, p. 209-210)

12-30-2002, 10:33 PM	#16
rbmingie Sapling Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: knoxville, tn Posts: 5	The URL should be: http://www.coldfury.com/archives/000184.php#000184

01-03-2003, 07:27 PM	#17
ils Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 36	It's sad to see people making bad analogies with Tolkien in order to promote warmongering policies that Tolkien himself would probably have despised. Can't say I'm impressed.

01-05-2003, 03:37 AM	#18
Huan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 274	Okay, that is some funny stuff. On the other hand, I too don't get the exact distinction between the Uruk-Hai and half-orcs. I have never gotten it. Could someone break that down for me? As a Dungeons & Dragons player, I always figured that the half-orcs were what they were, and the Uruk-Hai corresponded to the D&D orogs, if anyone knows what I'm talking about, but I don't know the specifics of how this works in Tolkien's writing.

01-06-2003, 05:46 PM	#19
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	There's some info in this thread about Uruks vs. half-orcs.

01-06-2003, 08:51 PM	#20
Huan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 274	Thanks.

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