Trivia! - Page 4

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-20-2003, 07:19 PM

Um, I did not see that in the part of the Sil I was looking in, but I would suppose you have more knowledge than I...

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 10-20-2003, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Um, I did not see that in the part of the Sil I was looking in, but I would suppose you have more knowledge than I...

Oops, it was the song of Yavanna, and the tears of Nienna.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-20-2003, 08:13 PM

Yes yes, your go!

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 10-20-2003, 08:22 PM

An easy one then.

Name the Elf who was known as "the valiant."

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-20-2003, 08:27 PM

'Twas Fingon.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 10-20-2003, 08:34 PM

The one and only.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-21-2003, 04:39 PM

What did the Noldor name the sun and moon?

Artanis · 10-21-2003, 04:44 PM

I think the moon was RÃ¡na?

Falagar · 10-21-2003, 04:45 PM

I'll have a go in this thread too.

What were the names of the two trees in Gondolin made by Turgon?

Edit: ops, forgot to answer.

Anar and Isil?

Artanis · 10-21-2003, 04:47 PM

Shouldn't you answer OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«'s question first?

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-21-2003, 06:02 PM

Anar and Isil are Quenya names, but I was thinking of two others, not based on Sindarin (Anor, Ithil). Damn, I always make shaky questions.

EDIT: Yes artanis, Rana was the moon.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 10-21-2003, 06:15 PM

Daystar for the sun?

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-21-2003, 08:54 PM

Still not the one I'm thinking of...

Artanis · 10-22-2003, 04:00 AM

I think it was the Vanyar who used the names Anar and Isil?

Radagast The Brown · 10-22-2003, 09:17 AM

Vassa for the sun? (I had to look for it in the Silmarillion; but it was worth it!

)

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-23-2003, 12:16 PM

Yes, Radagast (though it only has one s

). But since you both named one, who goes?
As for the Vanyar naming the Sun and Moon Anar and Isil, I have no idea. The names are close to Sindarin, and the Vanyar all stayed in Aman. And if the Noldor brought their names for them, then the Vanyarin and Sindarin names couldn't be based on each other, or could they?

Falagar · 10-23-2003, 12:39 PM

Anor and Isil are Quenya names for the sun and the moon. I have no idea which one was first of Anor and Anar (or ithil and isil), but both are at least based on the same stem NAR1.

I would guess that Anor was first, and then the Sindar borrowed it, though the opposit is of course possible too. Or it may be a strange coinsidence...

Edit: I just realized that only ANÃR is mentioned as a stem in Etym, which would support my theory that Anar was first...
As for wether it was Vanyarin Q or Noldorin Q, I don't know.

Artanis · 10-23-2003, 05:16 PM

I searched and found this in the Sil:

Quote:

Isil the Sheen the Vanyar of old named the Moon, flower of Telperion in Valinor; and Anar the Fire-golden, fruit of Laurelin, they named the Sun. But the Noldor named them also RÃ¡na, the Wayward, and VÃ¡sa, the Heart of Fire, that awakens and consumes; for the Sun was set as a sign for the awakening of Men and the waning of the Elves, but the Moon cherishes their memory.

Artanis · 10-24-2003, 03:14 AM

Radagast should go next imo, he solved the last part of OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«'s questions.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 10-24-2003, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Artanis
Radagast should go next imo, he solved the last part of OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«'s questions.

Yeah, I think so too. I think Artanis and I have been very influenced by the rules of the "Quote Game."

10-20-2003, 07:19 PM	#61
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Um, I did not see that in the part of the Sil I was looking in, but I would suppose you have more knowledge than I... __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-20-2003, 08:13 PM	#63
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Yes yes, your go! __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-20-2003, 08:22 PM	#64
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	An easy one then. Name the Elf who was known as "the valiant." __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

10-20-2003, 08:27 PM	#65
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	'Twas Fingon. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-20-2003, 08:34 PM	#66
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	The one and only. __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

10-21-2003, 04:39 PM	#67
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	What did the Noldor name the sun and moon? __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-21-2003, 04:44 PM	#68
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with FÃ«anor's 7 Posts: 4,285	I think the moon was RÃ¡na? __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

10-21-2003, 04:45 PM	#69
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	I'll have a go in this thread too. What were the names of the two trees in Gondolin made by Turgon? Edit: ops, forgot to answer. Anar and Isil? __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle. Last edited by Falagar : 10-21-2003 at 04:47 PM.

10-21-2003, 04:47 PM	#70
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with FÃ«anor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Shouldn't you answer OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ«'s question first? __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.*

10-21-2003, 06:02 PM	#71
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Anar and Isil are Quenya names, but I was thinking of two others, not based on Sindarin (Anor, Ithil). Damn, I always make shaky questions. EDIT: Yes artanis, Rana was the moon. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?" Last edited by OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« : 10-21-2003 at 06:04 PM.

10-21-2003, 06:15 PM	#72
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Daystar for the sun? __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

10-21-2003, 08:54 PM	#73
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Still not the one I'm thinking of... __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-22-2003, 04:00 AM	#74
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with FÃ«anor's 7 Posts: 4,285	I think it was the Vanyar who used the names Anar and Isil? __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die. Last edited by Artanis : 10-22-2003 at 04:03 AM.

10-22-2003, 09:17 AM	#75
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Vassa for the sun? (I had to look for it in the Silmarillion; but it was worth it! ) __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

10-23-2003, 12:16 PM	#76
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Yes, Radagast (though it only has one s). But since you both named one, who goes? As for the Vanyar naming the Sun and Moon Anar and Isil, I have no idea. The names are close to Sindarin, and the Vanyar all stayed in Aman. And if the Noldor brought their names for them, then the Vanyarin and Sindarin names couldn't be based on each other, or could they? __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-23-2003, 12:39 PM	#77
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Anor and Isil are Quenya names for the sun and the moon. I have no idea which one was first of Anor and Anar (or ithil and isil), but both are at least based on the same stem NAR1. I would guess that Anor was first, and then the Sindar borrowed it, though the opposit is of course possible too. Or it may be a strange coinsidence... Edit: I just realized that only ANÃR is mentioned as a stem in Etym, which would support my theory that Anar was first... As for wether it was Vanyarin Q or Noldorin Q, I don't know. __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle. Last edited by Falagar : 10-23-2003 at 12:42 PM.

10-24-2003, 03:14 AM	#79
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with FÃ«anor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Radagast should go next imo, he solved the last part of OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ«'s questions. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.*

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