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Bullroarer · 01-20-2003, 09:40 PM

I don't have my book handy, and no immediate resources to check. One of my dad's friend's son (irrevalent) has an english paper. He's answered all the questions except a 5, I narrowed it down to two.

These are all questions concerning the 4th chapter in the hobbit:

"What forebodings did Gandalf have when leaving Rivendell?"

"What mistakes did the dwarves make after leaving Rivendell?"
(This question is refering to the time between Rivendell and the run-in with the goblins on their front porch)

goodwarlord · 01-21-2003, 09:52 PM

sorry, i guess that i can't, i have the book here, but i can't seem to find it

Eothain · 01-22-2003, 04:57 PM

Sorry i can't help.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 01-22-2003, 09:00 PM

I don't understand why people that can't help post anything at all. If you can't help, then why post?

Findegil · 01-23-2003, 11:05 AM

To the second question:
The Dwarves did not check rightly the cave in which they were searching for schelter.

The first question I don't know out of hand.

Respectfully
Findegil

Ithildin55 · 01-23-2003, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Bullroarer
"What forebodings did Gandalf have when leaving Rivendell?"

Hmm, I would say he had forebodings of trouble that awaited them. Gandalf knew “how evil and danger had grown and thriven in the Wild” and that “even the good plans of wise Wizards like Gandalf and of good friends like Elrond go astray sometimes when you are off on dangerous adventures over the Edge of the Wild; and Gandalf was a wise enough Wizard to know it.
“He knew that something unexpected might happen, and he hardly dared to hope that they would pass without fearful adventure over those great tall mountains with lonely peaks and valleys where no king ruled.”

Quote:

"What mistakes did the dwarves make after leaving Rivendell?"
(This question is refering to the time between Rivendell and the run-in with the goblins on their front porch)

I’m not sure what they are looking for here, unless it is, as Findegil mentioned, the implication that the dwarves did not thoroughly explore the cave (though Gandalf later used his lighted staff and explored it “end to end”) and the fact that they became unwary as they talked of their plans for their treasure.

Hope that helps a little.
Ithildin55

Beleg Strongbow · 01-23-2003, 02:17 PM

I think they may simply want that "the dwarves sheltered in the back entrance of the goblin tunnels"

Thrain · 02-01-2003, 08:31 PM

No idea 'bout the second one but I do agree with Ithildin55 about question number 1 because the book says that both Gandalf and Elrond were a little weary because no one had really discovered or wiped out all the evil that resided in those mountains. So Gandalf was just worried if he had chosen the right course of action.

gollum9630 · 02-23-2003, 01:00 AM

For the second question, the dwarves mistake was probably that they did not leave a watchman when they slept in the cave. I dont know about the other question.

Khadrane · 03-08-2003, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I don't understand why people that can't help post anything at all. If you can't help, then why post?

Probably to get their post count up without (technically) spamming.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 03-08-2003, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Khadrane
Probably to get their post count up without (technically) spamming.

It's so annoying though. They're asking if you can help, not if you can't help.

Radagast The Brown · 03-09-2003, 04:23 PM

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originally posted by SGH
It's so annoying though. They're asking if you can help, not if you can't help.

Right. But you can delete their post, no?

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 03-16-2003, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Right. But you can delete their post, no?

Thanks for the suggestion Radagast.

01-20-2003, 09:40 PM	#1
Bullroarer Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2000 Location: Athens, Pennsyltucky Posts: 453	help I don't have my book handy, and no immediate resources to check. One of my dad's friend's son (irrevalent) has an english paper. He's answered all the questions except a 5, I narrowed it down to two. These are all questions concerning the 4th chapter in the hobbit: "What forebodings did Gandalf have when leaving Rivendell?" "What mistakes did the dwarves make after leaving Rivendell?" (This question is refering to the time between Rivendell and the run-in with the goblins on their front porch) __________________ http://www.nerdmafia.com/ -Making you an offer you cannot understand

01-21-2003, 09:52 PM	#2
goodwarlord Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kiel,Wisconsi Posts: 102	i might be able to help... sorry, i guess that i can't, i have the book here, but i can't seem to find it

01-22-2003, 04:57 PM	#3
Eothain Enting Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 73	The Hobbit. Sorry i can't help. __________________ Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpsting, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have past like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning? Frodo lives

01-22-2003, 09:00 PM	#4
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	I don't understand why people that can't help post anything at all. If you can't help, then why post? __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

01-23-2003, 02:17 PM	#7
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	I think they may simply want that "the dwarves sheltered in the back entrance of the goblin tunnels" __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

01-23-2003, 11:05 AM	#5
Findegil Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Geilenkirchen, Germany Posts: 192	To the second question: The Dwarves did not check rightly the cave in which they were searching for schelter. The first question I don't know out of hand. Respectfully Findegil

02-01-2003, 08:31 PM	#8
Thrain Enting Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Right now I am currently living in Rivendell Posts: 52	No idea 'bout the second one but I do agree with Ithildin55 about question number 1 because the book says that both Gandalf and Elrond were a little weary because no one had really discovered or wiped out all the evil that resided in those mountains. So Gandalf was just worried if he had chosen the right course of action. __________________ Never mettle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good ketchup.

02-23-2003, 01:00 AM	#9
gollum9630 Canadian Guy. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The true North Strong and Free Posts: 1,513	For the second question, the dwarves mistake was probably that they did not leave a watchman when they slept in the cave. I dont know about the other question. __________________ "Canadians are so apathetic, but, what are you gonna do about it" -Glen Foster Wierd Harry Potter quotes the old nintendo duck hunt game Lemmings Swron Random Homer Simpson Quotes Last edited by gollum9630 : 02-23-2003 at 01:02 AM.