Golden Globes

emplynx · 01-20-2002, 11:22 PM

None for LotR so far. :-( I can't believe the soundtrack didn't get it!

FrodoFriend · 01-20-2002, 11:51 PM

WHAT??!! Who won it, then? Moulin Rouge? Well, there's still best picture, I hope.

emplynx · 01-21-2002, 12:12 AM

None... Darn Moulin Rouge and Beautiful Mind (The guy who Beautiful mind is about lived in a neighboring town to mine once upon a time!)!

JenniferTook · 01-21-2002, 12:31 AM

Oh, I know! The Golden Globes made me so upset. Well, not really because I still think that Fotr was the superior film.

Hopefully, the Oscars will be better. But even if they don't win anything, they are still awesome!

Jennifer

Luthien Tinuviel · 01-21-2002, 12:36 AM

This is just ridiculous. I am TRYING to be objective, but Lord knows its hard. But seriously, Howard Shore should have won, his score is so haunting and beautiful! Enya should have won, its the most gorgeous song i have heard, PJ SHOULD MOST DEFINITELY HAVE WON, I DON"T KNOW WHERE THEY GET OFF NOT GIVING IT TO HIM, AND AS FOR THE BEST PICTURE OF THE YEAR, WELL, LETS NOT GO THERE!
*SCREAMS*

luinilwen · 01-21-2002, 01:25 AM

FOTR didn't get anything? the globes isn't shown until tonight in australia, although on the news it said that some aussies have picked up a few awards. this year was supposed to be the most amount of aussies ever to be nominated for the golden globes, and i think it's something like six people.

but thanks for the heads up - i'm not going to waste three hours tonight if FOTR didn't get anything. maybe i should go watch it again tonight in protest

JenniferTook · 01-21-2002, 02:51 AM

I can't say definitely whether Shore should have won or not as I have not heard all the sound tracks, but I definitely can say that anything John Williams (who was also nominated) would be miles above anything that the winner did. I may be biased (I probably am when it comes to anything Lotr and anything Williams has written), but I can't help but think that. Zimmer is also a great composer who surely could have blown that dude away. Oh well.

The Lotr soundtrack is great though. I got it the other day and it is really wonderful.

Jennifer

Luthien Tinuviel · 01-21-2002, 01:53 PM

If I am right in believe that the John Williams you are talking about is the one who did The Patriots score, then I must agree, the man has talent, BUT Howard Shore still should have won.

XRogue · 01-21-2002, 03:14 PM

Know what? I wasn't expecting FOTR to win any golden globes, in spite of the fact it deserves them. Fantasy and SciFi movies don't get Hollywood awards because they are not the usual Hollywood tripe and can be safely ignored. And FOTR was poles above any other Fantasy movie ever made. Don't expect quality to be rewarded in Hollywood anymore folks. Even in other categories, good moviemaking gets ignored. Shawshank Redemption had two GG nominations and got no awards, BRAVEHEART had four and got no GG award either.

Liviaine · 01-21-2002, 03:21 PM

I didn't expect FotR to win best picture, because most fantasy films I've seen don't even get nominated. I didn't think it would win for music, either, but I thought it might have a chance at director.

Gerbil · 01-21-2002, 04:21 PM

Ho hum

Can't say I'm suprised.

The fantasy thing you've mentioned seems to me to be true.
If it had had an actual historical angle (no matter how twisted to create a hollywood film) it'd probably have stood a better chance.

Also, it's not straight hollywood / US ****. I wonder how many people consider it a sin to create one of the most epic film series of all times NOT in the US, by a non-mainstream director?

Perhaps that's the key, it should be in the best foreign film catagory

As for the music, it's fantastic, but not outstanding, to my mind.
It works so well because of the filmic imagery - it complements the film perfectly. On it's own? I'm not so sure. Let's face it - who is in a position to be objective about it? Who can hear it without bits of the film coming back to them?

And as for bleedin' Enya's average-at-best May It Be, apparently the answer is 'No it may not be'.

Gosh, I'm such a traitor.

FoolofaTook · 01-21-2002, 05:39 PM

I was so Pissed off when I heard that LOTR didn't win any GG.
I mean they totally deserve to win the movie was amazing. It's just that the judges want more american made movies, even if they are worse then the not-so American made movies.
Pheww! I spit at the judges of the GG! Bastards!

emplynx · 01-21-2002, 05:52 PM

I think that the next movies will my way better, award wise. Think--Rider's of Rohan, Ents, Orthonac, Helm's Deep, Minas Tirith, Mount Doom...

Comic Book Guy · 01-21-2002, 06:50 PM

The Golden Globes is a farce of an Awards show, there is evidence of forced bias from previous years, I don't have the sources right now but I'm sure Darth Tater knows them.

Yazad · 01-21-2002, 08:25 PM

I didn't think the FotR score was anything to write home about. I thought it was mediocre at best and was hoping for something more adventurous.

The real crime was that Memento got robbed, easily my favorite film of 2001.

It's not a good sign that a "pretty-good" film like "A Beautiful Mind" swept the Golden Globes. Still I think that 2001 was a far better year for films than 2000, but nowhere near touching 1999, which was absolutely glorious.

At least with the Two Towers in 2002 we're guaranteed something worth watching!

Still, LotR should have claimed a couple awards IMO, perhaps for directing and technical merit.

Yazad

Darth Tater · 01-21-2002, 08:34 PM

I won't go into to much detail, but sufice it so say there is evidence that the voters for the Golden Globes are not legit, and there is some serious history of successful bribing for awards.

Gerbil · 01-21-2002, 08:47 PM

*shrugs*
Would we honestly be that suprised if it turned out to be the case with any major awards? Nepotism and bribery and palliness etc. always crop up sooner or later.

I guess it's just the GG's bad luck to have proof against it.
All it means is they'll be more discreet on other awards.

FrodoFriend · 01-21-2002, 09:27 PM

I have to agree about the fantasy movie thing . . . Hollywood/Americans like cynical-real-life or teen-funny movies. I'm surprised about A Beautiful Mind, though, every review I read about it give it "mediocre" and "C+" ratings (except for Russel Crowe's performance, which I'm sure he deserved the award for).

Yazad - Memento not being nominated surprised me too! That was truly a great film! Should've been up for best picture, or director at least.

Am not surprised about LotR losing for soundtrack - Moulin Rouge is, after all, a musical.

For the Oscars, I think LotR stands a pretty fair change for special effects & cinematography type stuff. Moulin Rouge will probably get soundtrack, Russell Crowe Best Actor. We might still win Best Picture!! Look at it this way . . . Harry Potter didn't get nominated for ANYTHING. For a fantasy movie LotR is kicking butt!

Luthien Tinuviel · 01-21-2002, 09:47 PM

You know, it really was my own fault for hoping for a GG. My Bible Study teacher told me that LOTR's wouldn't win best actor or actress at the Oscars cuz they don't vote for fantasy films, and i guess i should have just not expected a fantasy film to win a GG either... Its a shame tho, the 10 or so people in this world who don't love LOTR just happened to be the judges... *sigh*

Wayfarer · 01-21-2002, 09:50 PM

*/Wolf Whistles.

]: )

01-20-2002, 11:22 PM	#1
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	Golden Globes None for LotR so far. :-( I can't believe the soundtrack didn't get it!

01-20-2002, 11:51 PM	#2
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	WHAT??!! Who won it, then? Moulin Rouge? Well, there's still best picture, I hope. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-21-2002, 12:36 AM	#5
Luthien Tinuviel Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 38	This is just ridiculous. I am TRYING to be objective, but Lord knows its hard. But seriously, Howard Shore should have won, his score is so haunting and beautiful! Enya should have won, its the most gorgeous song i have heard, PJ SHOULD MOST DEFINITELY HAVE WON, I DON"T KNOW WHERE THEY GET OFF NOT GIVING IT TO HIM, AND AS FOR THE BEST PICTURE OF THE YEAR, WELL, LETS NOT GO THERE! SCREAMS __________________ The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hamlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen, Of stars in shadow shimmering. Tinúviel was dancing there To music of a pipe unseen, And light of starts was in her hair, And in her raiment glimmering There Beren came from mountains cold, And lost he wandered under leaves, And where the Elven-river rolled. He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves And saw in wonder flowers of gold Upon her mantle and her sleeves, And her hair like shadow following. He sought her ever, wandering far Where leaves or years were thickly strewn, By light of moon and ray of star In frosty heavens shivering. Her mantle glinted in the moon. And on a hill-top high and far She danced, and at her feet was strewn A mist of silver quivering.

01-21-2002, 01:53 PM	#8
Luthien Tinuviel Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 38	If I am right in believe that the John Williams you are talking about is the one who did The Patriots score, then I must agree, the man has talent, BUT Howard Shore still should have won. __________________ The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hamlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen, Of stars in shadow shimmering. Tinúviel was dancing there To music of a pipe unseen, And light of starts was in her hair, And in her raiment glimmering There Beren came from mountains cold, And lost he wandered under leaves, And where the Elven-river rolled. He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves And saw in wonder flowers of gold Upon her mantle and her sleeves, And her hair like shadow following. He sought her ever, wandering far Where leaves or years were thickly strewn, By light of moon and ray of star In frosty heavens shivering. Her mantle glinted in the moon. And on a hill-top high and far She danced, and at her feet was strewn A mist of silver quivering.

01-21-2002, 03:14 PM	#9
XRogue Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2000 Location: D/FW Texas, USA Posts: 345	Know what? I wasn't expecting FOTR to win any golden globes, in spite of the fact it deserves them. Fantasy and SciFi movies don't get Hollywood awards because they are not the usual Hollywood tripe and can be safely ignored. And FOTR was poles above any other Fantasy movie ever made. Don't expect quality to be rewarded in Hollywood anymore folks. Even in other categories, good moviemaking gets ignored. Shawshank Redemption had two GG nominations and got no awards, BRAVEHEART had four and got no GG award either. __________________ Farewell wherever you fare, till your Eyries recieve you at the journey's end.

01-21-2002, 12:12 AM	#3
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	None... Darn Moulin Rouge and Beautiful Mind (The guy who Beautiful mind is about lived in a neighboring town to mine once upon a time!)!

01-21-2002, 12:31 AM	#4
JenniferTook Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 21	Oh, I know! The Golden Globes made me so upset. Well, not really because I still think that Fotr was the superior film. Hopefully, the Oscars will be better. But even if they don't win anything, they are still awesome! Jennifer

01-21-2002, 01:25 AM	#6
luinilwen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney AUSTRALIA Posts: 368	FOTR didn't get anything? the globes isn't shown until tonight in australia, although on the news it said that some aussies have picked up a few awards. this year was supposed to be the most amount of aussies ever to be nominated for the golden globes, and i think it's something like six people. but thanks for the heads up - i'm not going to waste three hours tonight if FOTR didn't get anything. maybe i should go watch it again tonight in protest

01-21-2002, 02:51 AM	#7
JenniferTook Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 21	I can't say definitely whether Shore should have won or not as I have not heard all the sound tracks, but I definitely can say that anything John Williams (who was also nominated) would be miles above anything that the winner did. I may be biased (I probably am when it comes to anything Lotr and anything Williams has written), but I can't help but think that. Zimmer is also a great composer who surely could have blown that dude away. Oh well. The Lotr soundtrack is great though. I got it the other day and it is really wonderful. Jennifer

01-21-2002, 03:21 PM	#10
Liviaine Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ithilien Posts: 203	I didn't expect FotR to win best picture, because most fantasy films I've seen don't even get nominated. I didn't think it would win for music, either, but I thought it might have a chance at director.

01-21-2002, 04:21 PM	#11
Gerbil Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 797	Ho hum Can't say I'm suprised. The fantasy thing you've mentioned seems to me to be true. If it had had an actual historical angle (no matter how twisted to create a hollywood film) it'd probably have stood a better chance. Also, it's not straight hollywood / US ****. I wonder how many people consider it a sin to create one of the most epic film series of all times NOT in the US, by a non-mainstream director? Perhaps that's the key, it should be in the best foreign film catagory As for the music, it's fantastic, but not outstanding, to my mind. It works so well because of the filmic imagery - it complements the film perfectly. On it's own? I'm not so sure. Let's face it - who is in a position to be objective about it? Who can hear it without bits of the film coming back to them? And as for bleedin' Enya's average-at-best May It Be, apparently the answer is 'No it may not be'. Gosh, I'm such a traitor. __________________ Gerbil gerbil@theburrow.co.uk

01-21-2002, 05:39 PM	#12
FoolofaTook Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ??? Posts: 214	I was so Pissed off when I heard that LOTR didn't win any GG. I mean they totally deserve to win the movie was amazing. It's just that the judges want more american made movies, even if they are worse then the not-so American made movies. Pheww! I spit at the judges of the GG! Bastards!

01-21-2002, 05:52 PM	#13
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	I think that the next movies will my way better, award wise. Think--Rider's of Rohan, Ents, Orthonac, Helm's Deep, Minas Tirith, Mount Doom...

01-21-2002, 06:50 PM	#14
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	The Golden Globes is a farce of an Awards show, there is evidence of forced bias from previous years, I don't have the sources right now but I'm sure Darth Tater knows them.

01-21-2002, 08:25 PM	#15
Yazad Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 56	I didn't think the FotR score was anything to write home about. I thought it was mediocre at best and was hoping for something more adventurous. The real crime was that Memento got robbed, easily my favorite film of 2001. It's not a good sign that a "pretty-good" film like "A Beautiful Mind" swept the Golden Globes. Still I think that 2001 was a far better year for films than 2000, but nowhere near touching 1999, which was absolutely glorious. At least with the Two Towers in 2002 we're guaranteed something worth watching! Still, LotR should have claimed a couple awards IMO, perhaps for directing and technical merit. Yazad

01-21-2002, 08:34 PM	#16
Darth Tater The man Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: MA Posts: 4,572	I won't go into to much detail, but sufice it so say there is evidence that the voters for the Golden Globes are not legit, and there is some serious history of successful bribing for awards. __________________ Visit the worlds greatest webpage! No, not The Tolkien Trail! Just click this! The Tolkien Trail ~Camelot

01-21-2002, 08:47 PM	#17
Gerbil Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 797	shrugs Would we honestly be that suprised if it turned out to be the case with any major awards? Nepotism and bribery and palliness etc. always crop up sooner or later. I guess it's just the GG's bad luck to have proof against it. All it means is they'll be more discreet on other awards. __________________ Gerbil gerbil@theburrow.co.uk

01-21-2002, 09:27 PM	#18
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	I have to agree about the fantasy movie thing . . . Hollywood/Americans like cynical-real-life or teen-funny movies. I'm surprised about A Beautiful Mind, though, every review I read about it give it "mediocre" and "C+" ratings (except for Russel Crowe's performance, which I'm sure he deserved the award for). Yazad - Memento not being nominated surprised me too! That was truly a great film! Should've been up for best picture, or director at least. Am not surprised about LotR losing for soundtrack - Moulin Rouge is, after all, a musical. For the Oscars, I think LotR stands a pretty fair change for special effects & cinematography type stuff. Moulin Rouge will probably get soundtrack, Russell Crowe Best Actor. We might still win Best Picture!! Look at it this way . . . Harry Potter didn't get nominated for ANYTHING. For a fantasy movie LotR is kicking butt! __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

01-21-2002, 09:47 PM	#19
Luthien Tinuviel Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 38	You know, it really was my own fault for hoping for a GG. My Bible Study teacher told me that LOTR's wouldn't win best actor or actress at the Oscars cuz they don't vote for fantasy films, and i guess i should have just not expected a fantasy film to win a GG either... Its a shame tho, the 10 or so people in this world who don't love LOTR just happened to be the judges... sigh __________________ The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hamlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen, Of stars in shadow shimmering. Tinúviel was dancing there To music of a pipe unseen, And light of starts was in her hair, And in her raiment glimmering There Beren came from mountains cold, And lost he wandered under leaves, And where the Elven-river rolled. He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves And saw in wonder flowers of gold Upon her mantle and her sleeves, And her hair like shadow following. He sought her ever, wandering far Where leaves or years were thickly strewn, By light of moon and ray of star In frosty heavens shivering. Her mantle glinted in the moon. And on a hill-top high and far She danced, and at her feet was strewn A mist of silver quivering.

01-21-2002, 09:50 PM	#20
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	*/Wolf Whistles. ]: ) __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

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