How Rich is Smaug?

GrayMouser · 04-07-2011, 08:54 PM

8.6 billion US dollars

According to calculations by Forbe's magazine, publisher of lists of the world's wealthiest people in various categories, Smaug is number 7 on their "Fictional 15" richest list.

http://blogs.forbes.com/michaelnoer/...-dragon-worth/

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At one point, Bilbo Baggins, the book’s hero, addresses him as “O Smaug, the unassessably wealthy” and his gold is described as being “beyond price and count.” But how much, exactly, is that dragon worth? (Forget the “unassessably wealthy” nonsense; I once valued Donald Trump for the Forbes 400, so I’m used to billionaires that blow a lot of smoke.)

See how he compares to Tony Stark, Scrooge McDuck and others:

http://www.forbes.com/lists/fictiona...tional-15.html

***Valandil*** · 04-07-2011, 10:48 PM

He neglects to account for the real estate... Solitary mountain commanding 360 degree views of landscape all around... LOT$ of acreage!!! Improvements made by previous tenants including numerous subterranean chambers of all sorts and sizes, a sort of mysterious tunnel heading up to the west from the lowest chamber and a spring of water flowing out of the main gate and down on the south side of the mountain. Woods have been mostly cleared for ease of further development.

Gotta be worth SOMETHING!!!

GrayMouser · 04-07-2011, 11:23 PM

Good point! Not to mention convenient access to Laketown.

Though the neighborhood might not be the best- "The Desolation of Smaug" lacks a certain cachet. Might best be described as a "fixer-upper."

***Rían*** · 04-08-2011, 12:05 AM

Cute! Go Smaug!!

***Valandil*** · 04-08-2011, 12:18 AM

Oooooo... did he also fail to calculate in the value of the mithril shirt???

GrayMouser · 04-08-2011, 09:49 PM

double post

GrayMouser · 04-08-2011, 10:01 PM

Then they'd have to calculate the value of the whole Shire and everything in it- there's probably enough information to get a reasonable estimate.

Find a comparable agriculturally fruitful but industrially undeveloped area of 18,ooo square miles....

Logkhya · 05-29-2012, 04:37 AM

I want to know the exact answer

hectorberlioz · 06-10-2012, 05:35 PM

The Forbes guy recently went back and re-assessed Smaug's wealth, calculating the mithril shirt, Arkenstone, and at least several other chambers of comparable wealth.

Lotesse · 06-11-2012, 08:13 PM

Smaug is hella rich. Smaug is like the one percent's one percent. He makes Bill Gates look like a slumdog hundredaire.

Logkhya · 06-12-2012, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotesse

Smaug is hella rich. Smaug is like the one percent's one percent. He makes Bill Gates look like a slumdog hundredaire.

That sounds funny

Lotesse · 08-29-2012, 01:52 AM

Smaug's wealth would shame the Apple enterprise, or the nouveau-riche Chinese, but was he happy? Did alll those treasures make Smaug's heart burst with love and joy and lightness? If not, then aLl the wealth in his world was worth less than the toilet paper he (god I hope) wiped his dirty post-poo bum with.

He had no freinds, no remaining kin/family, and every living thing freaked out when they saw him. No wealth could ever assuage such inside wounds.

Team Smaug.

04-07-2011, 10:48 PM	#2
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	He neglects to account for the real estate... Solitary mountain commanding 360 degree views of landscape all around... LOT$ of acreage!!! Improvements made by previous tenants including numerous subterranean chambers of all sorts and sizes, a sort of mysterious tunnel heading up to the west from the lowest chamber and a spring of water flowing out of the main gate and down on the south side of the mountain. Woods have been mostly cleared for ease of further development. Gotta be worth SOMETHING!!! __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

04-07-2011, 11:23 PM	#3
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 2,068	Good point! Not to mention convenient access to Laketown. Though the neighborhood might not be the best- "The Desolation of Smaug" lacks a certain cachet. Might best be described as a "fixer-upper." __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill

04-08-2011, 12:05 AM	#4
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Cute! Go Smaug!! __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

04-08-2011, 12:18 AM	#5
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Oooooo... did he also fail to calculate in the value of the mithril shirt??? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

04-08-2011, 09:49 PM	#6
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 2,068	double post __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill Last edited by GrayMouser : 04-08-2011 at 10:02 PM.

04-08-2011, 10:01 PM	#7
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 2,068	Then they'd have to calculate the value of the whole Shire and everything in it- there's probably enough information to get a reasonable estimate. Find a comparable agriculturally fruitful but industrially undeveloped area of 18,ooo square miles.... __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill

05-29-2012, 04:37 AM	#8
Logkhya Hobbit Join Date: May 2012 Location: China Posts: 25	I want to know the exact answer

06-10-2012, 05:35 PM	#9
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	The Forbes guy recently went back and re-assessed Smaug's wealth, calculating the mithril shirt, Arkenstone, and at least several other chambers of comparable wealth. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

06-11-2012, 08:13 PM	#10
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Smaug is hella rich. Smaug is like the one percent's one percent. He makes Bill Gates look like a slumdog hundredaire. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

08-29-2012, 01:52 AM	#12
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Smaug's wealth would shame the Apple enterprise, or the nouveau-riche Chinese, but was he happy? Did alll those treasures make Smaug's heart burst with love and joy and lightness? If not, then aLl the wealth in his world was worth less than the toilet paper he (god I hope) wiped his dirty post-poo bum with. He had no freinds, no remaining kin/family, and every living thing freaked out when they saw him. No wealth could ever assuage such inside wounds. Team Smaug. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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