Del Toro leaves Hobbit Project!

jammi567 · 05-31-2010, 04:46 AM

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2010...rts-the-hobbit

No! At least he's going to finish writing the scripts, which is something. And, let's face it, it proberly was going to be inevitable eventually in light of all of the delays.

Let's hope that they can find someone just as good to replace him.

***Earniel*** · 05-31-2010, 05:04 AM

Well, that is unfortunate. But I can see anyone bailing out if you signed up for three years and already you're looking at six years instead and you haven't even started.

The Gaffer · 05-31-2010, 06:18 AM

Hammer blow.

Will be gash if PJ ends up directing again.

Coffeehouse · 05-31-2010, 08:49 AM

My guess is that the director will be...

ta ta ta ta ta!!!

Peter Jackson.

It's a six-year production, and very few directors have the stomach, not to mention passion, to keep it going for that long. Jackson knows NZ and he's done it before.

And I think he would do a good job directing it. It's good that Del Toro will stay on contributing to the script though, I'm sure he will provide loads of his creative talent to the finished product.

***Jonathan*** · 05-31-2010, 12:19 PM

Del Toro stated that he quits because he is already signed up to other projects. He hadn't anticipated the constant delays of the Hobbit production.
However like Del Toro, Jackson is also tied to other commitments in the years to come. I doubt we will see him direct the films. His manager says it is unlikely, too.

Acalewia · 05-31-2010, 04:10 PM

Tis a pity Del Toro bailed on the Hobbit. He's a great director and pays attenion to detail. From what I understand he has been planning his dream direct, Frankenstien, for years, plus he has a third Hellboy movie he wants to do. It would be funny if Jackson was given the reins again

Gwaimir Windgem · 06-01-2010, 11:25 AM

I doubt it will be Peter Jackson; after the fiasco between him and New Line, they'll probably want to minimize his role.

Honestly, I'm kinda glad Del Toro left. I think he's a fantastic director, but I really don't know that his style is suited to the Hobbit.

Of course, that leaves the question of who WILL direct. My misgivings about Del Toro's compatibility with the Hobbit aside, I don't know how likely they are to find someone better.

A friend of mine suggested that Werner Herzog should direct it; I'd totally pay to see that.

EllethValatari · 06-01-2010, 11:55 AM

So does this occurrence further postpone the first movie's release?

hectorberlioz · 06-01-2010, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

A friend of mine suggested that Werner Herzog should direct it; I'd totally pay to see that.

Didn't he die a few years ago?

In any case, I'm pretty uncomfortable again. I was OK with Del Toro. His comments about how The Hobbit was different in tone from LotR was right on, and I felt he was going in the right direction.

I am not going to be comfortable if they merely find a "serious" director with an Academy Award under his belt. I mean, sometimes serious directors really aren't serious when it comes to action/adventure-y stuff.

Also: I find this whole MGM thing pretty lame. I mean, the studio that has the Tolkien franchise now and the James Bond franchise...and they can't greenlight their biggest boxoffice draws? I wonder what movies they are releasing. At this point I think NewLine should have been the one to buy MGM, and not the other way around!

Gwaimir Windgem · 06-01-2010, 12:35 PM

Um, no? He pulled Joaquin Phoenix from a car wreck a few years ago; maybe that's what you're thinking of, but Herzog is still alive and filming.

hectorberlioz · 06-01-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Um, no? He pulled Joaquin Phoenix from a car wreck a few years ago; maybe that's what you're thinking of, but Herzog is still alive and filming.

No, I hadn't even heard of that!

Well, good for him. He's getting on though, I think, in age. I know he made a documentary film about Timothy Treadwell.

GrayMouser · 06-02-2010, 05:41 AM

Some speculation from Salon's film critic:

http://www.salon.com/entertainment/m..._direct_hobbit

Gwaimir Windgem · 06-02-2010, 05:02 PM

Quote:

I'd gladly give up the "Hobbit" movie forever, in fact, if it meant getting to see del Toro's hypothetical versions of H.P. Lovecraft's "At the Mountains of Madness,"

Oh, I would totally make that trade.

GrayMouser · 06-02-2010, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Oh, I would totally make that trade.

If it is possible to film Lovecraft, he might be the guy to pull it off.

Gwaimir Windgem · 06-02-2010, 08:42 PM

Either him or Herzog.

BeardofPants · 06-03-2010, 05:51 AM

I dislike Herzog.

Gwaimir Windgem · 06-04-2010, 12:42 AM

How can you not love this?

Seriously, though, I lurvz. Fitzcarraldo, Nosferatu, and Aguirre Wrath of God are all works of genius. Some of his other stuff is more half-hearted (like the Loch Ness satire, and Rescue Dawn which just confused me).

GrayMouser · 06-04-2010, 01:05 AM

Rescue Dawn was by Herzog?

When I saw it on cable I thought it was just some made for TV movie.

BeardofPants · 06-04-2010, 02:02 AM

I liked Nosferatu well-enough, but the other bits I've seen haven't really gelled with me. The BF keeps trying to make me watch other stuff, but that wrath one was a bit of a turn-off. Meh.

Gwaimir Windgem · 06-04-2010, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrayMouser

Rescue Dawn was by Herzog?

When I saw it on cable I thought it was just some made for TV movie.

I know! That's why it confused me so much; it was not Herzogian at all!

05-31-2010, 04:46 AM	#1
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05-31-2010, 08:49 AM	#4
Coffeehouse Entmoot Minister of Foreign Affairs Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 2,145	My guess is that the director will be... ta ta ta ta ta!!! Peter Jackson. It's a six-year production, and very few directors have the stomach, not to mention passion, to keep it going for that long. Jackson knows NZ and he's done it before. And I think he would do a good job directing it. It's good that Del Toro will stay on contributing to the script though, I'm sure he will provide loads of his creative talent to the finished product. __________________ "Well, thief! I smell you and I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself again, there is plenty and to spare."

05-31-2010, 12:19 PM	#5
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	Del Toro stated that he quits because he is already signed up to other projects. He hadn't anticipated the constant delays of the Hobbit production. However like Del Toro, Jackson is also tied to other commitments in the years to come. I doubt we will see him direct the films. His manager says it is unlikely, too. __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

05-31-2010, 04:10 PM	#6
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	Tis a pity Del Toro bailed on the Hobbit. He's a great director and pays attenion to detail. From what I understand he has been planning his dream direct, Frankenstien, for years, plus he has a third Hellboy movie he wants to do. It would be funny if Jackson was given the reins again __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

05-31-2010, 06:18 AM	#3
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Hammer blow. Will be gash if PJ ends up directing again.

06-01-2010, 11:25 AM	#7
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I doubt it will be Peter Jackson; after the fiasco between him and New Line, they'll probably want to minimize his role. Honestly, I'm kinda glad Del Toro left. I think he's a fantastic director, but I really don't know that his style is suited to the Hobbit. Of course, that leaves the question of who WILL direct. My misgivings about Del Toro's compatibility with the Hobbit aside, I don't know how likely they are to find someone better. A friend of mine suggested that Werner Herzog should direct it; I'd totally pay to see that. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

06-01-2010, 11:55 AM	#8
EllethValatari Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United States Posts: 401	So does this occurrence further postpone the first movie's release? __________________ Elleth Valatari "We have come from God, and inevitably the myths woven by us, though they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Our myths may be misguided, but they steer however shakily towards the true harbour, while materialistic 'progress' leads only to a yawning abyss and the Iron Crown of the power of evil." — J.R.R. Tolkien

06-01-2010, 12:35 PM	#10
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Um, no? He pulled Joaquin Phoenix from a car wreck a few years ago; maybe that's what you're thinking of, but Herzog is still alive and filming. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

06-02-2010, 05:41 AM	#12
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 2,068	Some speculation from Salon's film critic: http://www.salon.com/entertainment/m..._direct_hobbit __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill

06-02-2010, 08:42 PM	#15
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Either him or Herzog. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

06-03-2010, 05:51 AM	#16
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I dislike Herzog. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

06-04-2010, 12:42 AM	#17
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	How can you not love this? Seriously, though, I lurvz. Fitzcarraldo, Nosferatu, and Aguirre Wrath of God are all works of genius. Some of his other stuff is more half-hearted (like the Loch Ness satire, and Rescue Dawn which just confused me). __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

06-04-2010, 01:05 AM	#18
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 2,068	Rescue Dawn was by Herzog? When I saw it on cable I thought it was just some made for TV movie. __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill

06-04-2010, 02:02 AM	#19
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I liked Nosferatu well-enough, but the other bits I've seen haven't really gelled with me. The BF keeps trying to make me watch other stuff, but that wrath one was a bit of a turn-off. Meh. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

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