Harry destined to die? - Page 2

Halbarad of the Dunedain · 10-08-2004, 12:09 AM

Harry dying would make sense, a Neo-esqe death. Taking the death to save everyone. I don't understand the origional post however, the suposed "true" responses from Radcliff. If Harry the character is to be killed off, why would another person play Harry!? Don't know about you but this whole thing seems a little fake. Just a weak rumor.

*Edit: Also it would seem, at the speed at which JK is writing, I don't she even knows what will happen at the end!

sirigorn · 10-09-2004, 10:08 AM

Quote:

*Edit: Also it would seem, at the speed at which JK is writing, I don't she even knows what will happen at the end!

Oh yes she does. She's had it allll planned out for ages, she knows exactly what's gonna happen. Sure, she'll make changes but they won't be big ones and they won't completely change the plot.

Halbarad of the Dunedain · 10-22-2004, 05:00 AM

Is there anything that supports that idea sirigorn?(Im not trying to attack you

) May I ask, are you J.K herself? If you are not then I do not really think you, or anyone is in a good place ot make such a finite statement. Not to mention if you were right, sirigorn, then perhaps there would be an explaination as to why the last books are taking so long? Surely if she had everything planned for ages uncounted then she would be able to put them on paper faster than ages uncounted. Regaurdless the orgigional thread idea is being lost, and as I said in my previous post the idea of HP dying is a good one but the origional post does not make sense and therefore at this time I don't feel HP will die.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 10-22-2004, 08:49 AM

I've seen a BBC TV show where JKR herself says that she has written the last chapter already and know's what is going to happen.

Tanoliel · 07-13-2004, 05:42 PM

Hmmm...I don't think Harry will die. It's just a little too odd, especially since he's been 'narrating' (albeit 3rd person)--how do you end a book after you've killed the narrator?
I can see Ron dying, though--in a terribly heroic way to save the world, you know?

Neville, no--too story-important. I can't wait to see what happens with Neville (whee!).

***Khamûl*** · 08-16-2004, 11:56 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...p/harry_potter

I say Harry's gonna die.

Pirate · 08-18-2004, 10:35 PM

I think Draco will die in some kind of heroic Everyone-has-some-good-in-them way

J/k. I would be so pissed if she did so that though. My vote goes to Ron or Dumbledore.

Haradrim · 08-20-2004, 02:04 AM

I have to go with Neville. I think everyone misinterpreted the prophecy. I think that everyone will think Harry should kill him but at the end itll be Harry and Neville having some way to kill the Dark Lord. HArry will step forward but Neville will grab him and tell Harry that he will do it. That he has nothin gleft (I think his grandma will die) and that he wants this one chance to do something great. they will argue for a whil ebut then HArry will conceed and Neville will do whatever he must do.

But thats just what I think

PippinTook · 08-21-2004, 01:13 AM

yeah I dont think harry will die. I didnt know she realeased the name of book 6 though *ponders* anywho, when will it come out?

If anyone dies it'll be DM or Neville I think. Not Lupin because I like him too much and it would be dumb after killing Sirius. Something big will happen that will lead up to someone dying and until I see that I have no idea, really. I'm no good at predictions.

Sylvee Estel · 11-28-2004, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Haradrim

I have to go with Neville. I think everyone misinterpreted the prophecy. I think that everyone will think Harry should kill him but at the end itll be Harry and Neville having some way to kill the Dark Lord. HArry will step forward but Neville will grab him and tell Harry that he will do it. That he has nothin gleft (I think his grandma will die) and that he wants this one chance to do something great. they will argue for a whil ebut then HArry will conceed and Neville will do whatever he must do.

But thats just what I think

I agree except for one thing... Harry won't conceed. Neville will have to knock him out or something.

***azalea*** · 07-13-2004, 09:39 PM

I don't want anyone to die!

But I think it might be Dumbledore, and maybe Harry will replace him as "top wizard."
I think the only reason Rowling would have to kill Harry is if she is sick of writing about him. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense in terms of the way she's built him up in the series.

Elessar the Elfstone · 07-15-2004, 11:49 AM

Heres my list of possible deaths:
1. Dumbldore
2. Neville
3. lupin
4. Mad eye
5. fudge
6. shamus finnigan
7. Cho Chang
8. Athur or molly weasly
9.more order members
10. other Hogwarts students

These are in no paticular order! I said Fudge because somewhere (can't remember where

) JK said thetre would be a new minister for magicso he has to be get red of some how.

Orli17 · 08-06-2004, 12:44 AM

if ron dies i'll cry my head out!!! But to me it seems like its gonna be him.....always the faithful sidekick/bestfriends it is..... but Rowling might do sthg different...Harry dying?? that's too much

sirigorn · 08-06-2004, 12:40 PM

Much as I like wrong, I'm almost positive he will die... lots of little things adding up. Like his middle name. Bilius. In the third book, Ron said that his uncle or cousin or something Bilius was killed by the Grim. Or at least, he saw the Grim, then he dies of fright. That's just one example of a reason I think he'll die. Even though I love him to death. And I just realised how that sounds.... maybe I shouldn't say that!

~Siri~

Tilion the Maia · 07-12-2006, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith_Elf

I found this article in the Daily Mail paper this morning:

Thoughts?

I think that his fate is with V. but I think Harry can kill him without being killed, it could be that Harry could come close to death but not die.

Spock · 07-13-2006, 08:44 AM

Then again, what better way to assure that no one ever attempts to write sequels to Jo's creation.

***azalea*** · 07-13-2006, 10:28 AM

I'm going to copy this to this page, since it was the last one on the other page and I don't know if people were seeing it:

I'm not dredging this thread for no reason -- I just thought it might be good to revive it for further use about character deaths. But first may I give props to Lizra and Haradrim for correctly predicting D'dore's death specifically in book 6.

There was a recent Entertainment Weekly article giving odds for character deaths. I thought it might be fun to take a character every few days and let everyone give their odds of that character dying in either book 7, not including the epilogue, which I think we can assume will take place after the plot action, and will basically serve to tell us what happens to people after "the end."

I think the easiest way is for me to start, and give my prediction of how likely it is that this character will die as a percentage. Then others can say what they think and why. Then after a few days, we can give another character, given either by me or someone else if I'm not around. We can do all the characters in the books. It'll help pass the time until the next one comes out.

I guess I'll start out with the original subject of the thread and say: Harry.

I personally give Harry, oh, let's say an 80% chance of surviving book 7.

A couple of reasons for the good chance:
He's the main character.
It wouldn't feel right to end the book without him.

Why I allow for the possibility that he might not:
The rumors, which were started by JKR herself in an interview.
Probably just teasing, but you never know.

durinsbane2244 · 08-02-2006, 12:45 PM

i hope he dies. ooooooh do i hope he dies....

Spock · 08-02-2006, 01:04 PM

You're in need of some serious help from Delores Umbrage.

durinsbane2244 · 08-02-2006, 01:05 PM

aaah! noooo! heh...she's crazy now, though...*whew* close shave...

10-08-2004, 12:09 AM	#1
Halbarad of the Dunedain Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arthedian Posts: 460	Harry dying would make sense, a Neo-esqe death. Taking the death to save everyone. I don't understand the origional post however, the suposed "true" responses from Radcliff. If Harry the character is to be killed off, why would another person play Harry!? Don't know about you but this whole thing seems a little fake. Just a weak rumor. Edit: Also it would seem, at the speed at which JK is writing, I don't she even knows what will happen at the end! __________________ "Can you feel her, running through your veins? She will always live forever!" ~ Atreyu [Her portrait in Black] "I want to see pretty people doing ugly things..." ~ Unknown "Damn it n' such!" ~ Stewie Griffen Last edited by Halbarad of the Dunedain : 10-08-2004 at 12:12 AM.*

10-22-2004, 08:49 AM	#4
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	I've seen a BBC TV show where JKR herself says that she has written the last chapter already and know's what is going to happen. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

07-13-2004, 05:42 PM	#5
Tanoliel Eccentric Chocolate Crow Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Emerald City--Seattle, WA Posts: 1,861	Hmmm...I don't think Harry will die. It's just a little too odd, especially since he's been 'narrating' (albeit 3rd person)--how do you end a book after you've killed the narrator? I can see Ron dying, though--in a terribly heroic way to save the world, you know? Neville, no--too story-important. I can't wait to see what happens with Neville (whee!). __________________ Wisdom for Short Attention Spans...Ozy and Millie. It rocks. Food Of The Gods: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione Feed Me.... Another Online Dwelling Place... "All right, I confess. It is my intention to comandeer a ship, pick up a crew in Tortuga, to rape, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out." -Captain Jack Sparrow "The trouble with unknown enemies is that they are so difficult to identify." -Amelia Peabody Emerson "Most people obey the orders of someone who is pointing a gun at their head." -A.P. Emerson

08-16-2004, 11:56 PM	#6
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...p/harry_potter I say Harry's gonna die. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

08-18-2004, 10:35 PM	#7
Pirate Enting Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dancing with the Ligers Posts: 88	I think Draco will die in some kind of heroic Everyone-has-some-good-in-them way J/k. I would be so pissed if she did so that though. My vote goes to Ron or Dumbledore. __________________ "In a thousand years, there will be no men and women, just wankers, and that's fine by me. " ~Renton, Trainspotting

10-22-2004, 05:00 AM	#3
Halbarad of the Dunedain Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arthedian Posts: 460	Is there anything that supports that idea sirigorn?(Im not trying to attack you ) May I ask, are you J.K herself? If you are not then I do not really think you, or anyone is in a good place ot make such a finite statement. Not to mention if you were right, sirigorn, then perhaps there would be an explaination as to why the last books are taking so long? Surely if she had everything planned for ages uncounted then she would be able to put them on paper faster than ages uncounted. Regaurdless the orgigional thread idea is being lost, and as I said in my previous post the idea of HP dying is a good one but the origional post does not make sense and therefore at this time I don't feel HP will die.

08-20-2004, 02:04 AM	#8
Haradrim The Official Court Jester of the Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Far Harad Posts: 1,006	I have to go with Neville. I think everyone misinterpreted the prophecy. I think that everyone will think Harry should kill him but at the end itll be Harry and Neville having some way to kill the Dark Lord. HArry will step forward but Neville will grab him and tell Harry that he will do it. That he has nothin gleft (I think his grandma will die) and that he wants this one chance to do something great. they will argue for a whil ebut then HArry will conceed and Neville will do whatever he must do. But thats just what I think __________________ A Bit More Grown Up This Time...

08-21-2004, 01:13 AM	#9
PippinTook The Infamous Tea Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Riding my Attack Llama, CORY! Posts: 1,162	yeah I dont think harry will die. I didnt know she realeased the name of book 6 though ponders anywho, when will it come out? If anyone dies it'll be DM or Neville I think. Not Lupin because I like him too much and it would be dumb after killing Sirius. Something big will happen that will lead up to someone dying and until I see that I have no idea, really. I'm no good at predictions. __________________ http://jupiter.walagata.com/w/shanakdakhete/svbf.gif If I can stop one heart from aching, I shall not live in vain. -Emily Dickinson But the Master comes, and the foolish crowd Never can quite understand The worth of a soul and the change that is wrought By the touch of the Master's hand. Though she be but little, she is fierce! -MSND

07-13-2004, 09:39 PM	#11
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I don't want anyone to die! But I think it might be Dumbledore, and maybe Harry will replace him as "top wizard." I think the only reason Rowling would have to kill Harry is if she is sick of writing about him. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense in terms of the way she's built him up in the series.

07-15-2004, 11:49 AM	#12
Elessar the Elfstone Enting Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Usually located Bree Inn of the prancing pony Posts: 59	Heres my list of possible deaths: 1. Dumbldore 2. Neville 3. lupin 4. Mad eye 5. fudge 6. shamus finnigan 7. Cho Chang 8. Athur or molly weasly 9.more order members 10. other Hogwarts students These are in no paticular order! I said Fudge because somewhere (can't remember where ) JK said thetre would be a new minister for magicso he has to be get red of some how.

08-06-2004, 12:44 AM	#13
Orli17 Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Degobah Posts: 169	if ron dies i'll cry my head out!!! But to me it seems like its gonna be him.....always the faithful sidekick/bestfriends it is..... but Rowling might do sthg different...Harry dying?? that's too much __________________ ~~E-M-I-K-O---T-H-E-I-N~~ LEGOLAS GREENLEAF 10 Things You'll Find in Legolas' Backpack - Elvensmiths & Co. 10. hairbrush 9. blower 8. powder 7. Enya’s "the Memory of Trees" CD 6. cold cream 5. mud packs 4. First Aid kit 3. shampoo and conditioner 2. his picture 1. 101 Ways to Become the Prettiest Thing in Middle Earth that is from theonering.net 'tookish ticklers top ten things'...just citing my sources.....

08-06-2004, 12:40 PM	#14
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	Much as I like wrong, I'm almost positive he will die... lots of little things adding up. Like his middle name. Bilius. In the third book, Ron said that his uncle or cousin or something Bilius was killed by the Grim. Or at least, he saw the Grim, then he dies of fright. That's just one example of a reason I think he'll die. Even though I love him to death. And I just realised how that sounds.... maybe I shouldn't say that! ~Siri~ __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

07-13-2006, 08:44 AM	#16
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Then again, what better way to assure that no one ever attempts to write sequels to Jo's creation. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-13-2006, 10:28 AM	#17
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I'm going to copy this to this page, since it was the last one on the other page and I don't know if people were seeing it: I'm not dredging this thread for no reason -- I just thought it might be good to revive it for further use about character deaths. But first may I give props to Lizra and Haradrim for correctly predicting D'dore's death specifically in book 6. There was a recent Entertainment Weekly article giving odds for character deaths. I thought it might be fun to take a character every few days and let everyone give their odds of that character dying in either book 7, not including the epilogue, which I think we can assume will take place after the plot action, and will basically serve to tell us what happens to people after "the end." I think the easiest way is for me to start, and give my prediction of how likely it is that this character will die as a percentage. Then others can say what they think and why. Then after a few days, we can give another character, given either by me or someone else if I'm not around. We can do all the characters in the books. It'll help pass the time until the next one comes out. I guess I'll start out with the original subject of the thread and say: Harry. I personally give Harry, oh, let's say an 80% chance of surviving book 7. A couple of reasons for the good chance: He's the main character. It wouldn't feel right to end the book without him. Why I allow for the possibility that he might not: The rumors, which were started by JKR herself in an interview. Probably just teasing, but you never know.

08-02-2006, 12:45 PM	#18
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	i hope he dies. ooooooh do i hope he dies.... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

08-02-2006, 01:04 PM	#19
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	You're in need of some serious help from Delores Umbrage. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

08-02-2006, 01:05 PM	#20
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	aaah! noooo! heh...she's crazy now, though...whew close shave... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

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