The monarchy

Erawyn · 10-15-2002, 05:22 PM

Sorry if this has been done before, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

What do people think about the monarchy (in Britain mostly)??

Do you think the royal family has anything to contribute? What about in Canada? The queen just came here and I thought it was odd how excited everybody got, and that people still think of her as our queen here.

Sween · 10-15-2002, 05:28 PM

Shes good for tourism. Yes thats it that all i feel on the subject

BeardofPants · 10-15-2002, 05:32 PM

I'm holding out for a New Zealand republic. And don't even get me started on fox hunting...

Sween · 10-15-2002, 05:38 PM

tell me about it wish they hadnt banned it

BeardofPants · 10-15-2002, 05:51 PM

...Barbaric sport.

Comic Book Guy · 10-15-2002, 06:06 PM

I refuse to say anything as I risk the chance of being locked up in the tower of London for a night.

osszie · 10-15-2002, 06:11 PM

High Treason is still a hanging offence here

(FTR fox hunting should be banned, not only is the fox about as dangerous as a jellyfish in the desert but the hunt destroy's more bleedin' countryside and farm property, hedges, gates, arable land etc, than anything else, elitist swines gettin their jollies)

galadriel88 · 10-15-2002, 06:24 PM

I think that although the royal family doesn't hold any real power, they serve a purpose. Besides just sitting there and being royal, they act as somewhat of a backbone - they represent Great Britain's legacy and are generally loved by her citizens (the queen/queen mother especially). But I live in the US and could be very wrong...

osszie · 10-15-2002, 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by galadriel88
I think that although the royal family doesn't hold any real power, they serve a purpose. Besides just sitting there and being royal, they act as somewhat of a backbone - they represent Great Britain's legacy and are generally loved by her citizens (the queen/queen mother especially). But I live in the US and could be very wrong...

No you're not wrong Galadriel88, there is a VERY big Royalist following in the UK.

As well as being monarch The Queen is also head of the armed forces and head of The Church of England, and as such she is also the biggest landowner in the UK.......she has plenty of power.

shutting up now, can feel the gallows rope being waxed

BeardofPants · 10-15-2002, 06:39 PM

I think I was one of the few people who went Whoop-de-doo when the Queen Mum died. You think she was a lovely old lady? Hah! And don't get me started on that adulteress hussy Pwincess Diana. Bah.

***IronParrot*** · 10-15-2002, 08:18 PM

The thing that I detested about Diana's death, specifically the media coverage, is that Mother Teresa died the same week and apparently, nobody cared.

Though I must say, the film Amélie played quite well on the Diana thing.

As far as the Queen coming to Canada goes... well hey, it's not like she has any real power other than being a last-ditch check or balance in case the Prime Minister tries to burn the Constitution or something... and if we didn't have her on the coin, who would we have? Wayne Gretzky? (Not that I'd mind)

I listened to the tail end of that honourary concert for the Queen last week. Oscar Peterson is my hero.

Now, as far as the Queen's role as the head of the Church of England goes... well, whether or not the Church of England should continue to exist as a state organization is a different issue entirely, and one that I have opinions on...

mirrille · 10-15-2002, 10:28 PM

Figurehead though the Queen may be, whether you have a good or bad figurehead makes a BIG difference. If you are going to have someone be a representative of all the pride, strength, and dignity of your country (or in our case, the Commonwealth), you want someone with a bit of pride, strength, and dignity to do it. In that way, I think the Queen is doing a fine job.

Dunadan · 10-16-2002, 04:16 AM

Well said. She does a good job. Whether the position should exist is another thing...

Did anyone else notice that the thing tourists like best about the Royal Family is that they are OURS and not theirs?

Sween · 10-16-2002, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
I think I was one of the few people who went Whoop-de-doo when the Queen Mum died. You think she was a lovely old lady? Hah! And don't get me started on that adulteress hussy Pwincess Diana. Bah.

No one in my family was too bothred she was over 100 she had a very good innings. Not like she had a hard life either is it? The only people really morning her were the makers of scotch

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I dont know why people liked diana so much. she was reasonably pretty and wore lots of nice clothes and did work for charity (well what else is she ment to do not like she has to work like the rest of us is it)

ill say one thing for the royal family if we didnt have them tony blair would be our head of state

and that i would never stand for hes a failed lawyer and an overal smarmy git

Elfmaster XK · 10-16-2002, 07:45 AM

I dislike the monarchy. I think the whole sytem of a monarchy is archaic...which it is. It's not the same as how it used to be because of the power of parliament, but i think the Queen is a stupid wench. The only reason i ahve any kind of 'liking' for her is the same as Sween. I really really hate Tony Blair, and if i could reach him...*sharpens knife and glares*

sun-star · 10-16-2002, 09:33 AM

I like the monarchy. In my book, archaic does not equal wrong. Much as we (not I!) might like it to be otherwise, tradition is a big part of life in Britain, and the monarchy is a part of that. And they are very popular stiil, especially the Queen - I was at the concert for the Golden Jubilee, outside in the Mall, and those crowds can't be ignored. The Queen is a constitutional check to the power of Parliament and the Prime Minister, she's a great tourist attraction, and she appears to actually be a very nice person. Don't get me started on the monarchy, I see its faults, but then I'm about the only person in the country who actually likes Prince Charles, so...

And I think everyone hates Tony Blair, don't they? Beats me how he got re-elected. Oh, yes... no other options

Dunadan · 10-16-2002, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by sun-star
And I think everyone hates Tony Blair, don't they? Beats me how he got re-elected. Oh, yes... no other options

I don't hate him. He's far from perfect and perhaps something of a control freak, but he's much better than any of the PMs we've had over the last 25 years. At least he looks vaguely human, which is more than Thatcher or Major could boast.

Sween · 10-16-2002, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by Dunadan
I don't hate him. He's far from perfect and perhaps something of a control freak, but he's much better than any of the PMs we've had over the last 25 years. At least he looks vaguely human, which is more than Thatcher or Major could boast.

i allways liked john major. Maggie thacher was good for a laugh

BeardofPants · 10-16-2002, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Dunadan
I don't hate him. He's far from perfect and perhaps something of a control freak, but he's much better than any of the PMs we've had over the last 25 years. At least he looks vaguely human, which is more than Thatcher or Major could boast.

Yeah, and he looks right cute sitting in Bush's pocket there.

Comic Book Guy · 10-16-2002, 04:34 PM

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I was at the concert for the Golden Jubilee, outside in the Mall, and those crowds can't be ignored.

I believe the numbers at that propaganda event were one million, the population of the United Kingdom is 80 Million, go figure.

10-15-2002, 05:22 PM	#1
Erawyn Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: america junior Posts: 320	The monarchy Sorry if this has been done before, but I couldn't find it anywhere. What do people think about the monarchy (in Britain mostly)?? Do you think the royal family has anything to contribute? What about in Canada? The queen just came here and I thought it was odd how excited everybody got, and that people still think of her as our queen here. __________________ peace never hurt anyone "Be not so bigoted to any custom as to worship it at the expense of Truth." Johann Georg von Zimmermann

10-15-2002, 05:28 PM	#2
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Shes good for tourism. Yes thats it that all i feel on the subject __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

10-15-2002, 05:32 PM	#3
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I'm holding out for a New Zealand republic. And don't even get me started on fox hunting... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords Last edited by BeardofPants : 10-15-2002 at 05:52 PM.

10-15-2002, 05:38 PM	#4
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	tell me about it wish they hadnt banned it __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

10-15-2002, 05:51 PM	#5
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	...Barbaric sport. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

10-15-2002, 06:06 PM	#6
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	I refuse to say anything as I risk the chance of being locked up in the tower of London for a night.

10-15-2002, 06:11 PM	#7
osszie Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 409	Bring forth the gallows High Treason is still a hanging offence here (FTR fox hunting should be banned, not only is the fox about as dangerous as a jellyfish in the desert but the hunt destroy's more bleedin' countryside and farm property, hedges, gates, arable land etc, than anything else, elitist swines gettin their jollies) Last edited by osszie : 10-15-2002 at 06:15 PM.

10-15-2002, 06:24 PM	#8
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	I think that although the royal family doesn't hold any real power, they serve a purpose. Besides just sitting there and being royal, they act as somewhat of a backbone - they represent Great Britain's legacy and are generally loved by her citizens (the queen/queen mother especially). But I live in the US and could be very wrong... __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

10-15-2002, 06:39 PM	#10
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I think I was one of the few people who went Whoop-de-doo when the Queen Mum died. You think she was a lovely old lady? Hah! And don't get me started on that adulteress hussy Pwincess Diana. Bah. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

10-15-2002, 08:18 PM	#11
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	The thing that I detested about Diana's death, specifically the media coverage, is that Mother Teresa died the same week and apparently, nobody cared. Though I must say, the film Amélie played quite well on the Diana thing. As far as the Queen coming to Canada goes... well hey, it's not like she has any real power other than being a last-ditch check or balance in case the Prime Minister tries to burn the Constitution or something... and if we didn't have her on the coin, who would we have? Wayne Gretzky? (Not that I'd mind) I listened to the tail end of that honourary concert for the Queen last week. Oscar Peterson is my hero. Now, as far as the Queen's role as the head of the Church of England goes... well, whether or not the Church of England should continue to exist as a state organization is a different issue entirely, and one that I have opinions on... __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

10-15-2002, 10:28 PM	#12
mirrille Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 479	Figurehead though the Queen may be, whether you have a good or bad figurehead makes a BIG difference. If you are going to have someone be a representative of all the pride, strength, and dignity of your country (or in our case, the Commonwealth), you want someone with a bit of pride, strength, and dignity to do it. In that way, I think the Queen is doing a fine job.

10-16-2002, 04:16 AM	#13
Dunadan The Quite Querulous Quendi Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oxon, UK Posts: 638	Yay! a monarchy thread Well said. She does a good job. Whether the position should exist is another thing... Did anyone else notice that the thing tourists like best about the Royal Family is that they are OURS and not theirs?

10-16-2002, 07:45 AM	#15
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	I dislike the monarchy. I think the whole sytem of a monarchy is archaic...which it is. It's not the same as how it used to be because of the power of parliament, but i think the Queen is a stupid wench. The only reason i ahve any kind of 'liking' for her is the same as Sween. I really really hate Tony Blair, and if i could reach him...sharpens knife and glares __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

10-16-2002, 09:33 AM	#16
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	I like the monarchy. In my book, archaic does not equal wrong. Much as we (not I!) might like it to be otherwise, tradition is a big part of life in Britain, and the monarchy is a part of that. And they are very popular stiil, especially the Queen - I was at the concert for the Golden Jubilee, outside in the Mall, and those crowds can't be ignored. The Queen is a constitutional check to the power of Parliament and the Prime Minister, she's a great tourist attraction, and she appears to actually be a very nice person. Don't get me started on the monarchy, I see its faults, but then I'm about the only person in the country who actually likes Prince Charles, so... And I think everyone hates Tony Blair, don't they? Beats me how he got re-elected. Oh, yes... no other options __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.

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