concerning ents, and the old forest

Quickbeam · 11-01-2001, 10:00 PM

I have my own theories of how ents and the old forest are related. But what do you think? are they entwives? are they ent-like trees, or tree-like ents? what about the old grey willow(or whatever bombadil called him) well, what are your thoughts. oh and no spoilers if theres something important I haven't read about the old forest like if they were entwives that later went back to fangorn or something of that sort.

***Ben*** · 11-01-2001, 11:28 PM

No, the Entwives were never found in LotR. My theory is that they were somewhere near the Shire, though, based on the conversation Sam had in the bar at the beginning of the story.

ArwenEvenstar · 11-02-2001, 07:08 PM

just an idea that popped into my head; maybe the entwives went to valinor with some Elves....

arynetrek · 11-03-2001, 08:55 PM

i seem to remember reading a passagr from Letters where Tolkien wrote very pessimistically about the Entwives, saying that he didn't think they could have survived into the 3rd age...

but the "walking tree" near the Shire, combined with Merry & Pippin's talk with Fangorn about the Entwives & how they would enjoy the Shire makes me think that at least some of them lived.

don't think they'd go to Valinor, they belong to Middle-Earth.

aryne *

Kirinki54 · 11-04-2001, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by arynetrek
but the "walking tree" near the Shire, combined with Merry & Pippin's talk with Fangorn about the Entwives & how they would enjoy the Shire makes me think that at least some of them lived.

That was also my impression. And my hope!

11-01-2001, 10:00 PM	#1
Quickbeam Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 35	concerning ents, and the old forest I have my own theories of how ents and the old forest are related. But what do you think? are they entwives? are they ent-like trees, or tree-like ents? what about the old grey willow(or whatever bombadil called him) well, what are your thoughts. oh and no spoilers if theres something important I haven't read about the old forest like if they were entwives that later went back to fangorn or something of that sort.

11-01-2001, 11:28 PM	#2
*Ben* Retired Ent Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 60,631	No, the Entwives were never found in LotR. My theory is that they were somewhere near the Shire, though, based on the conversation Sam had in the bar at the beginning of the story. __________________ ---Ben formerly known in the forums as bmilder Owner of The Tolkien Trail and Entmoot. Buy Entmoot shirts and mugs!

11-02-2001, 07:08 PM	#3
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	just an idea that popped into my head; maybe the entwives went to valinor with some Elves.... __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

11-03-2001, 08:55 PM	#4
arynetrek Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 610	i seem to remember reading a passagr from Letters where Tolkien wrote very pessimistically about the Entwives, saying that he didn't think they could have survived into the 3rd age... but the "walking tree" near the Shire, combined with Merry & Pippin's talk with Fangorn about the Entwives & how they would enjoy the Shire makes me think that at least some of them lived. don't think they'd go to Valinor, they belong to Middle-Earth. aryne *