nazgul fun after some real questions

afro-elf · 11-02-2001, 12:55 PM

1st was does nazgul mean in the common tongue?

from what parts of ME where they from?

where they all male?

besides that and knowing that the second in command was Khamul what would be some humors names or scence for them

The Lord of the Nazgul/ merry and eowyn commerical

The witch king's black breath is felling everyone

merry taps him on the leg.

" excuse i believe you are suffering from halitosis"

merry hands him some listerine

the witch king drinks it

"wow i feel so lemony fresh"

eowyn promptly slays
him

Listerine never leave home without it

Sorry really not that funny

***Tessar*** · 11-02-2001, 01:35 PM

hummmmmmmmmm.....

Actually I had to use some Listerene once, and man that stuff BURNED!!

***Tessar*** · 11-02-2001, 01:38 PM

Actually no.

THEY WERE ALL GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!

Lol I'm sorry but i couldn't help it.

Yes i believe that they were all male magicians

Wayfarer · 11-02-2001, 02:11 PM

Nazgul is from the black speech:

Nazg = Ring (Ash Nazg=the one Ring)
Gul = Wraith, or possibly sorcerer. (Sindarin 'Gul' is Sorcerer/Sorcery)

They would have originally been 'Ring Sorcerers', but as they faded they became 'Ring Wraiths'. Either translation is applicable (Inconclusinve on which is literallyu correct)

Tolkien never named or placed them except for Khamul (the easterling).

Now I'll shock you by going out of the canon, but ICE created names for them, and one was female.

I believe The Tolkienist had a list of the MERP nazgul characters.

I'm not sure if the URL is right. In any case, I don't like that site much (Or any site that equates middle earth with pentagrams, for that matter)

Ñólendil · 11-02-2001, 07:06 PM

One of the Ringwraiths was from the East (this was Khamûl, 'the Shadow of the East'). I think three were said to be Black Númenóreans (the Witchking I think was one). I think they were all male.

samwise of the shire · 11-03-2001, 12:23 AM

I thought Nazgul was the name for them AFTER their land horses died and they got the Wing Beasts. In other words I though Nazgul meant Winged Ringwraiths.

afro-elf · 11-06-2001, 01:12 PM

what is the financial market called in mordor

the NAZ-dex

Wayfarer · 11-06-2001, 02:57 PM

The tolkien sarcasm page called them the nazdaq

samwise of the shire · 11-06-2001, 06:53 PM

SO what should we call Nazdaq...Nazgul?

Wayfarer · 11-06-2001, 07:05 PM

Sauron's pawn.

Agburanar · 11-09-2001, 06:25 AM

The Nazgul are not named as such until they have winged steed sin Lord of the Rings, but I seem to remember that they were called Nazgul and Ulairi in the Sil. What's a Ulairi anyway? Ringwraith in Sindarin or sumfing?

Wayfarer · 11-09-2001, 01:51 PM

Ulairi is the adunic equivilent to ringwraith, yeah.

Ñólendil · 11-09-2001, 05:50 PM

Or 'Ringwraiths' anyway. Noone knows what the singular is, possibly 'Ulair'.

Bacchus · 11-18-2001, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Agburanar
The Nazgul are not named as such until they have winged steed sin Lord of the Rings

This is incorrect. I am 99% sure that Gandalf referred to them as Nazgul in "The Shadow of the Past," and I am 100% sure that Radagast used the term when convincing Gandalf to visit Saruman, as related in "The Council of Elrond."

KingElessar8 · 11-18-2001, 04:57 AM

No, he calls them "Ringwraiths" or the "Nine" in the Shadow of the Past , but Radagast does use the term, in a whisper.

KingElessar8 · 11-18-2001, 05:08 AM

Oh, and hi Bacchus. More people that I "know" around here every day...

Bacchus · 11-18-2001, 08:39 PM

Hail and well met, KE8

Wayfarer · 11-19-2001, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Inoldonil
Or 'Ringwraiths' anyway. Noone knows what the singular is, possibly 'Ulair'.

I recall a discussion I had with a friendly nazgul. He had come across a reference to 'Ulaire'. And we decided that this was likely the singular, while 'Ulairi' was most likely plural.

'Nazgul' could be one or both, as Blackspeeck wasn't nescessarily picky about plurals.

Ñólendil · 11-19-2001, 05:56 PM

I just got finished searching Helge Fauskanger's Ardalambion Adunaic page for 'Ulairi' and couldn't find it. I did find it, in the Quenya Corpus Wordlist:

Quote:

Úlairi "Nazgûl" (sg. *Úlairë? *Úlair?) Etymology obscure

Apparently the word is not Númenórean at all.

Lelondul · 11-19-2001, 08:03 PM

Are we all forgetting the most well-known poem of all time?

Three rings for Elven Kings...
Seven for Dwarf Lords...
Nine for mortal MEN...

Seems to me, they(The Nazgul) would all be men

11-02-2001, 12:55 PM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	nazgul fun after some real questions 1st was does nazgul mean in the common tongue? from what parts of ME where they from? where they all male? besides that and knowing that the second in command was Khamul what would be some humors names or scence for them The Lord of the Nazgul/ merry and eowyn commerical The witch king's black breath is felling everyone merry taps him on the leg. " excuse i believe you are suffering from halitosis" merry hands him some listerine the witch king drinks it "wow i feel so lemony fresh" eowyn promptly slays him Listerine never leave home without it Sorry really not that funny __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 11-02-2001 at 01:00 PM.

11-02-2001, 02:11 PM	#4
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Nazgul is from the black speech: Nazg = Ring (Ash Nazg=the one Ring) Gul = Wraith, or possibly sorcerer. (Sindarin 'Gul' is Sorcerer/Sorcery) They would have originally been 'Ring Sorcerers', but as they faded they became 'Ring Wraiths'. Either translation is applicable (Inconclusinve on which is literallyu correct) Tolkien never named or placed them except for Khamul (the easterling). Now I'll shock you by going out of the canon, but ICE created names for them, and one was female. I believe The Tolkienist had a list of the MERP nazgul characters. I'm not sure if the URL is right. In any case, I don't like that site much (Or any site that equates middle earth with pentagrams, for that matter) __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

11-02-2001, 07:06 PM	#5
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	One of the Ringwraiths was from the East (this was Khamûl, 'the Shadow of the East'). I think three were said to be Black Númenóreans (the Witchking I think was one). I think they were all male. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

11-03-2001, 12:23 AM	#6
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	I thought Nazgul was the name for them AFTER their land horses died and they got the Wing Beasts. In other words I though Nazgul meant Winged Ringwraiths. __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

11-06-2001, 01:12 PM	#7
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	what is the financial market called in mordor the NAZ-dex __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

11-02-2001, 01:35 PM	#2
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	hummmmmmmmmm..... Actually I had to use some Listerene once, and man that stuff BURNED!!

11-02-2001, 01:38 PM	#3
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Actually no. THEY WERE ALL GIRLS!!!!!!!!!! Lol I'm sorry but i couldn't help it. Yes i believe that they were all male magicians

11-06-2001, 02:57 PM	#8
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	The tolkien sarcasm page called them the nazdaq __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

11-06-2001, 06:53 PM	#9
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	SO what should we call Nazdaq...Nazgul? __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

11-06-2001, 07:05 PM	#10
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Sauron's pawn. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

11-09-2001, 06:25 AM	#11
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	The Nazgul are not named as such until they have winged steed sin Lord of the Rings, but I seem to remember that they were called Nazgul and Ulairi in the Sil. What's a Ulairi anyway? Ringwraith in Sindarin or sumfing?

11-09-2001, 01:51 PM	#12
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Ulairi is the adunic equivilent to ringwraith, yeah. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

11-09-2001, 05:50 PM	#13
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Or 'Ringwraiths' anyway. Noone knows what the singular is, possibly 'Ulair'. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

11-18-2001, 04:57 AM	#15
KingElessar8 Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 15	No, he calls them "Ringwraiths" or the "Nine" in the Shadow of the Past , but Radagast does use the term, in a whisper.

11-18-2001, 05:08 AM	#16
KingElessar8 Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 15	Oh, and hi Bacchus. More people that I "know" around here every day...

11-18-2001, 08:39 PM	#17
Bacchus Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Houston TX USA Posts: 245	Hail and well met, KE8 __________________ Yet neither by wolf, nor by Balrog, nor by Dragon, would Morgoth have achieved his end, but for the treachery of Men. Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes another shape and grows again.

11-19-2001, 08:03 PM	#20
Lelondul Swan-buggerer Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The rainy, grey north Posts: 69	C'mon folks! Are we all forgetting the most well-known poem of all time? Three rings for Elven Kings... Seven for Dwarf Lords... Nine for mortal MEN... Seems to me, they(The Nazgul) would all be men __________________ - Lelond, your friendly neighborhood Adan

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