Scary Elves!

TopazJedi · 04-13-2003, 12:43 AM

Does anyone else find the elves in the Hobbit slightly scary and wierd? They are soooo different from the elves in LOTR. Like, aren't they supposed to be all sad and stuff because thier time is ending? Instead, their all foofoo and singing stuff like

Tra-lalala-lally
We're high down in the valley

I mean, thier just basically high elves!

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-13-2003, 12:56 AM

Probably those were mostly Silvan Elves. Also, their time hadn't ended yet.

Bombadillo · 04-13-2003, 04:54 AM

Hahaha... high elves...
Yeah they were pretty damn creepy in the Hobbit. And they were far from the nicest people, always disappearing from the fellowship and getting them lost. If I was there with them I think I would have really liked to get my hands on one of those elves there and see where they hid then. I can't really blame Gimli.

Lalaith · 04-13-2003, 05:20 AM

We don't get to know them in the Hobbit. They seem like far away people who can't be understood. We learn much more about them in LotR and I guess that's the reason why we like (and understand) them more.

Aralyn · 04-13-2003, 04:14 PM

*rubs ears in amazement* Wait what? You said SCARY ELVES?!
Yeah right. They are so cool.

Actually I can see your point but only a tiny bit

Lizra · 04-13-2003, 04:18 PM

Scary would not be a word I would choose to describe them!

Fun elves, "high" elves, (ha ha) goosey elves, hilarious elves..."Don't dip your beard in the foam father, It's much too long already!" (or something like that

) Those elves are far out, man!

gimli7410 · 04-13-2003, 04:23 PM

i would call them creepy elves because they only keep to themselves. they didnt seem like they were helpful. plus i hate elves.

Aralyn · 04-13-2003, 04:24 PM

um okay sure

Anglorfin · 04-15-2003, 01:22 AM

In "The Hobbit" they were still a mysterious race, and they thought Dwarves looked funny so they made fun of them in their singing.

Lalaith · 04-15-2003, 05:13 AM

Mirkwood is a place where you have take care of yourself in order to survive. Surley that makes them seem scary.

Lizra · 04-15-2003, 07:57 AM

Ok....I love those Tra- la- la elves! They were GREAT!

Lady of Rohan · 04-15-2003, 05:54 PM

Yah, they did seem a little...... different in the hobbit. But I suppose that it is like Gwaimir said; Their time hadn't ended yet! So..... I wonder if that is what elves would be like if they weren't so depressed about the ring, and the ending of there time (In the LotR books)?

Fimbrethil · 04-15-2003, 08:30 PM

I thought the elves were rather creepy and mysterious. I read the LOTR before I read the Hobbit so my idea of a Mirkwood elf was a Lothlorien elf (ya know cause they're both wood elves). But when I read the Hobbit they were nothing like that a dark scary stuffy forest and they like caves!!!! So shouldn't they have gotten along with the dwarves? But then I got to thinking and looked at a certain chapter in LOTR and it said something like the dark lord tried to reclaim his throne in Mirkwood and the time period this happened in is about the same time as the Hobbit took place. I don't know about you but if a dark lord was trying to take over my land then I would keep to myself too!

Lizra · 04-15-2003, 08:42 PM

I'm talking about the Rivendell elves.

I think those are the ones the "thread starter" meant.

The (Mirk)wood elves were different, They did not do much for me.

"Mind Bilbo doesn't eat all the cakes! He is to fat to get through keyholes yet!"

Lalaith · 04-16-2003, 07:56 AM

The Elves in Rivendell were not strange, they were just ELVISH.

TopazJedi · 04-16-2003, 08:38 AM

Quote:

I'm talking about the Rivendell elves. I think those are the ones the "thread starter" meant.

Actually, i was talking about all the elves in the hobbit. I just forgot about the Mirkys at the time i started the thread (they were weird too! especially that one elf getting drunk!) BTW, i said "slightly scary and weird" not "really scary". I agree Lisra, they are kinda funny, but they sound like they have been smoking pipeweed for too long

Lalaith · 04-16-2003, 09:00 AM

Wouldn't you become strange and scary if you had to live all your life in a wood - and we are talking of an immortal life. That's looooooong.

Lady of Rohan · 04-16-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith
The Elves in Rivendell were not strange, they were just ELVISH.

So that is what the elves would have been like (in LotR) if they weren't all stressed about the ring, and there fadding? Hmm..........

Wayfarer · 04-17-2003, 03:31 AM

Ph34r 7h3 31v35, d3wd.

Lalaith · 04-17-2003, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayfarer
Ph34r 7h3 31v35, d3wd.

What? I'm an Elf, no Computer, I don't understand it.

04-13-2003, 12:43 AM	#1
TopazJedi Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Imladris Posts: 105	Scary Elves! Does anyone else find the elves in the Hobbit slightly scary and wierd? They are soooo different from the elves in LOTR. Like, aren't they supposed to be all sad and stuff because thier time is ending? Instead, their all foofoo and singing stuff like Tra-lalala-lally We're high down in the valley I mean, thier just basically high elves! __________________ Your cursor is magically drawn to my smiley

04-13-2003, 12:56 AM	#2
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Probably those were mostly Silvan Elves. Also, their time hadn't ended yet. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-13-2003, 04:54 AM	#3
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	Hahaha... high elves... Yeah they were pretty damn creepy in the Hobbit. And they were far from the nicest people, always disappearing from the fellowship and getting them lost. If I was there with them I think I would have really liked to get my hands on one of those elves there and see where they hid then. I can't really blame Gimli. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

04-13-2003, 05:20 AM	#4
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	We don't get to know them in the Hobbit. They seem like far away people who can't be understood. We learn much more about them in LotR and I guess that's the reason why we like (and understand) them more. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-13-2003, 04:14 PM	#5
Aralyn FloraAzul Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Anywhere as long as there is a library in a one mile radius of here Posts: 751	rubs ears in amazement Wait what? You said SCARY ELVES?! Yeah right. They are so cool. Actually I can see your point but only a tiny bit __________________ Atheism: A Non-Prophet Organization Yet many shall be amazed when they see Him-yes even far off foreign nations and thier kings; they shall stand dumb-founded, speechless in his prescence. For they shall see and understand what they had not seen before-Isaiah 52:15a Civil War- 498,332 dead WWI-116,708 dead WWII-407,316 dead Korean War-54,246 dead Vietnam War-58,665 dead Persian Gulf-372 dead War on The Unborn=35,000,000 dead and counting

04-13-2003, 04:18 PM	#6
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Scary would not be a word I would choose to describe them! Fun elves, "high" elves, (ha ha) goosey elves, hilarious elves..."Don't dip your beard in the foam father, It's much too long already!" (or something like that ) Those elves are far out, man! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

04-13-2003, 04:23 PM	#7
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	i would call them creepy elves because they only keep to themselves. they didnt seem like they were helpful. plus i hate elves. __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow. Last edited by gimli7410 : 04-13-2003 at 04:31 PM.

04-13-2003, 04:24 PM	#8
Aralyn FloraAzul Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Anywhere as long as there is a library in a one mile radius of here Posts: 751	um okay sure __________________ Atheism: A Non-Prophet Organization Yet many shall be amazed when they see Him-yes even far off foreign nations and thier kings; they shall stand dumb-founded, speechless in his prescence. For they shall see and understand what they had not seen before-Isaiah 52:15a Civil War- 498,332 dead WWI-116,708 dead WWII-407,316 dead Korean War-54,246 dead Vietnam War-58,665 dead Persian Gulf-372 dead War on The Unborn=35,000,000 dead and counting

04-15-2003, 01:22 AM	#9
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	In "The Hobbit" they were still a mysterious race, and they thought Dwarves looked funny so they made fun of them in their singing. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

04-15-2003, 05:13 AM	#10
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Mirkwood is a place where you have take care of yourself in order to survive. Surley that makes them seem scary. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-15-2003, 07:57 AM	#11
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Ok....I love those Tra- la- la elves! They were GREAT! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

04-15-2003, 05:54 PM	#12
Lady of Rohan Doughy Elf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,006	Yah, they did seem a little...... different in the hobbit. But I suppose that it is like Gwaimir said; Their time hadn't ended yet! So..... I wonder if that is what elves would be like if they weren't so depressed about the ring, and the ending of there time (In the LotR books)?

04-15-2003, 08:30 PM	#13
Fimbrethil My microwave speaks to me Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Having conversations with my major household appliances. Posts: 937	I thought the elves were rather creepy and mysterious. I read the LOTR before I read the Hobbit so my idea of a Mirkwood elf was a Lothlorien elf (ya know cause they're both wood elves). But when I read the Hobbit they were nothing like that a dark scary stuffy forest and they like caves!!!! So shouldn't they have gotten along with the dwarves? But then I got to thinking and looked at a certain chapter in LOTR and it said something like the dark lord tried to reclaim his throne in Mirkwood and the time period this happened in is about the same time as the Hobbit took place. I don't know about you but if a dark lord was trying to take over my land then I would keep to myself too! __________________ Bah, Bah black sheep have oyu any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full! One for the master, one for the dame, one for the little boy who lives down the lane! Bah, bah black sheep have you any wool? Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full. I'll be gone for a while. But never fear! "I shall return anon!"

04-15-2003, 08:42 PM	#14
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	I'm talking about the Rivendell elves. I think those are the ones the "thread starter" meant. The (Mirk)wood elves were different, They did not do much for me. "Mind Bilbo doesn't eat all the cakes! He is to fat to get through keyholes yet!" __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

04-16-2003, 07:56 AM	#15
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	The Elves in Rivendell were not strange, they were just ELVISH. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-16-2003, 09:00 AM	#17
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Wouldn't you become strange and scary if you had to live all your life in a wood - and we are talking of an immortal life. That's looooooong. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

04-17-2003, 03:31 AM	#19
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Ph34r 7h3 31v35, d3wd. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

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