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Elf Lady
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In reaction to the first link: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/
I did a statistical analysis on violence in Iraq when I was in Japan 
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05-19-2008, 06:22 PM
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Did you come across the study published in the Lancet in 2004 (and followed up in 2006)? Here, the researchers surveyed Iraqis to estimate the overall death rate and calculate the additional mortality caused by the war. They estimated that 98,000 people died as a result of the war in the first 12 months after invasion. The 2006 update estimated over 600,000 additional deaths to June 2006. But hey, as long as the curve is going downwards that's a success, right? |
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05-19-2008, 07:03 PM
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This one may be more moderate, but it's still horrifying if you ask me.
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05-19-2008, 05:24 PM
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05-19-2008, 05:48 PM
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 Hector, it's been more than half an hour now, and here in Norway the time is 11.48 pm so I'll have to call it a night, but please go ahead and post your answer and I'll read it in the morning.
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05-19-2008, 05:52 PM
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LOL, I'm American, I've earned the right to be harsh about my own people.
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05-19-2008, 10:05 PM
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Coffeehouse, my reply is in the Iraq thread.
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05-20-2008, 03:41 AM
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And to this thread: UK Politics, you are free
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05-20-2008, 08:52 AM
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FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST!
Free to vote on embryology and fertility regulation, in a free vote no less: - Creation of "hybrid" human-animal embryos was approved: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7407589.stm - An attempt to prevent the creation of "saviour siblings" was defeated: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7409264.stm - Reduction of abortion limit from 24 to 20 weeks, voting today: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7409696.stm Last edited by The Gaffer : 05-20-2008 at 08:54 AM. |
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05-20-2008, 03:53 PM
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3957232.ece
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05-20-2008, 04:37 PM
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an audio interview with Neonatologist on the realities of viability and the bizarre linkage with abortion policy in the UK political arena...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/li...n_20080520.ram Worth listening to, actually, and less than 4 minutes in toto.
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05-20-2008, 02:40 PM
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*blink blink* What!? *shakes head...*
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05-20-2008, 03:07 PM
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05-20-2008, 05:44 PM
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Elf Lord
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Foetuses don't have the vote in this country.
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05-20-2008, 11:21 PM
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Neither do Cows...
what is your point? |
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05-21-2008, 03:47 AM
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Mine or inkeds?
I was replying to inked saying "where was it the embryo vote was to be taken?" All amendments pretty solidly defeated: the law stays at 24 weeks. Also defeated was a pretty nasty Tory attempt to make IVF only available to heterosexual couples. |
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05-21-2008, 03:55 AM
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What's IVF Gaffer?
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05-21-2008, 05:37 AM
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Elf Lord
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In vitro fertilisation: test tube babies.
Some Tories wanted to ban lesbians from getting IVF but have been thwarted. Ha ha ha! Last edited by The Gaffer : 05-21-2008 at 06:15 AM. |
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05-21-2008, 01:12 PM
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Elf Lady
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*is glad about that*
One could make a case of discrimination against those people...
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05-21-2008, 02:39 PM
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Elf Lord
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Or against Mother Nature, Mari?
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