Books We Hate - Page 4

mirrille · 03-23-2002, 05:23 PM

Well, I really like Heart of Darkness and I think that Joseph Conrad is an absolute genius. But I can appreciate that it's not for everyone. I really like his writing style because I find the way he forms his sentences to be very intense visually and emotionally. But it's just this kind of writing style that makes it really hard to get into at first. It's almost like...it takes a while to get into the rhythm, and once you do, you get sucked in. But if you can't, you won't have a clue what he's talking about. So that's why some people love it and some hate it. This is only my theory.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-23-2002, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
Judith Krantz, and all historical romances!

I can't stand them either!!!! Oh, wait, I have only read one, and it was an assignment (yeah, I go to a really wierd school) but it was still terrible. *shudder*

Good theory, Mirrille. I know lots of people who don't like it, and lots who do.

FrodoFriend · 03-23-2002, 08:28 PM

The movie based (loosely) on Heart of Darkness is really, really good too. It's called Apocalypse Now. If you haven't seen it yet, go rent it!

***Khamûl*** · 03-24-2002, 05:59 PM

Has anyone tried to read Catch 22 by Joseph Heller? I tried to read it twice and never got past page 75. It bugged the stew out of me how he would start an idea and never finish it. Like that one dude and the crab apples in his cheeks. I never really understood it. The only reason I tried to read it was because I wanted to know what a Catch 22 was.

FrodoFriend · 03-24-2002, 06:48 PM

Yeah, I tried Catch-22. I almost finished it, but then stopped about 50 pages from the end. It was confusing as heck! He kept switching people and jumping around in time. And the thing about the army cook controlling the whole country's market really confused me. Oh well, someday I'll try again and maybe it'll make more sense.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-25-2002, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by FrodoFriend
The movie based (loosely) on Heart of Darkness is really, really good too. It's called Apocalypse Now. If you haven't seen it yet, go rent it!

I REALLY want to see that!!!!!! Renting it, right now!

BeardofPants · 03-25-2002, 03:20 AM

Apolcalypse Now is a great movie!! And Martin Sheen is amazing in it!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-25-2002, 04:28 AM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
Apolcalypse Now is a great movie!! And Martin Sheen is amazing in it!

Yay! Martin Sheen!!

Anyone here watch 'The West Wing?' I LOVE that show!!

RosieCotton · 03-25-2002, 10:48 AM

I love West Wing! (Well, actually, I love Josh, but I love West Wing too!)
Rosie

FrodoFriend · 03-26-2002, 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
Apolcalypse Now is a great movie!! And Martin Sheen is amazing in it!

Yes! Martin Sheen kicks butt! Is it just me, or is the scene where he's coming out of the swamp and his face is all painted and he's on his way to do Kurtz in REALLY COOL?? For once a movie really captured the heart of a book - the heart of darkness itself.

Plus it's got a ceiling fan at the beginning. Ceiling fans are cool (Bladerunner is another good movie with a ceiling fan). They deserve more attention! Revolving is hard work, you know.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-26-2002, 03:39 AM

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Originally posted by RosieCotton
I love West Wing! (Well, actually, I love Josh, but I love West Wing too!)
Rosie

Hooray! More West Wing fans!

I might have to start a thread in the entertainment forum. ..

Jadera · 04-03-2002, 01:17 AM

Hmmm.....Maybe I should try watching the West Wing. Sounds like a pretty good show, from what you guys are saying. (And may get me out of my Invisible Man slump. Ack on Sci-fi)

The worst books I can think of right now are Harriet the Spy, which was majorly depressing, and The Man in the Iron Mask, which was also depressing. (The movie was okay, I'm a Jeremy Iron fan

)

BeardofPants · 04-03-2002, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by Jadera
The worst books I can think of right now are Harriet the Spy, which was majorly depressing, and The Man in the Iron Mask, which was also depressing. (The movie was okay, I'm a Jeremy Iron fan

) [/B]

Hey! I liked Harriet the Spy!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 04-03-2002, 02:56 AM

I liked Harriet the Spy as well, but that's okay

Yes, Jader, do start watching West Wing, it's really good! Martin Sheen for President!

Jadera · 04-16-2002, 12:35 PM

The Last of the Really Great Wangdoodles was a horrible book, now that I think about it. I couldn't even finish it, which is strange for me. Julie Andrews/Edwards is good author though, her book Mandy was fantastic, I'd reccomend it to anyone.

And biographys. I can't stand reading biographys, for some reason. I like doing reports on them even less. I might read J.R.R Tolkein's though.

emplynx · 07-05-2002, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by mirrille
4) Beloved by Toni Morrison.

I am having to read this for Honors English "Summer Reading". Naturally because I am being forced to read it I hate it, but I would hate it anyway. The style is puke!! I just finished Section One...

mirrille · 07-05-2002, 10:00 PM

emplynx,
I feel for you...

Willow Oran · 07-06-2002, 06:39 PM

::cowers in a corner:: People are so judgemental about books it's scary. Just because you don't like a book or a style of writing doesn't mean it's a bad book. And before you go around saying that it's a horrible book you should stop to think about how you can say it so that you don't make people who feel otherwise think badly of themselves for reading and liking it. Especially when you didn't finish the story. I personally have never come across a book that I truly hate. There have been books that I wasn't particularily interested in or that I thought were boring the first time I read them and I have to admit that Lord of the Rings was one of those books. Then I re read them this last year when the movie came out and I found that I was now old enough that I could understand what was going on and what they were about and because I was older I found them much more enjoyable. And I've found that that holds true for many books. So before you decide that you hate a book, it's best to forget about for awhile then go back and read it again when you've grown a little. And if you still hate it. Then it's safe to say it's a bad book, but chances are you'll understand it better and it won't be quite so hateable.

Draken · 07-08-2002, 10:29 AM

Catch 22 is a brilliant book - it aims at (and hits) so many targets, all done with wonderfully understated black comedy. And I was surprised to find that the film version does (I think!) a good job of conveying what the book is all about.

mirrille · 07-08-2002, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Willow Oran
So before you decide that you hate a book, it's best to forget about for awhile then go back and read it again when you've grown a little. And if you still hate it. Then it's safe to say it's a bad book, but chances are you'll understand it better and it won't be quite so hateable.

Alot of it is personal taste, but it's also true to say that just because something gets published, doesn't mean it's good.

03-23-2002, 08:28 PM	#63
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	The movie based (loosely) on Heart of Darkness is really, really good too. It's called Apocalypse Now. If you haven't seen it yet, go rent it! __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-24-2002, 05:59 PM	#64
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	Has anyone tried to read Catch 22 by Joseph Heller? I tried to read it twice and never got past page 75. It bugged the stew out of me how he would start an idea and never finish it. Like that one dude and the crab apples in his cheeks. I never really understood it. The only reason I tried to read it was because I wanted to know what a Catch 22 was. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

03-24-2002, 06:48 PM	#65
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Yeah, I tried Catch-22. I almost finished it, but then stopped about 50 pages from the end. It was confusing as heck! He kept switching people and jumping around in time. And the thing about the army cook controlling the whole country's market really confused me. Oh well, someday I'll try again and maybe it'll make more sense. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-25-2002, 03:20 AM	#67
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Apolcalypse Now is a great movie!! And Martin Sheen is amazing in it! __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

03-25-2002, 10:48 AM	#69
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	I love West Wing! (Well, actually, I love Josh, but I love West Wing too!) Rosie __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

03-23-2002, 05:23 PM	#61
mirrille Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 479	Well, I really like Heart of Darkness and I think that Joseph Conrad is an absolute genius. But I can appreciate that it's not for everyone. I really like his writing style because I find the way he forms his sentences to be very intense visually and emotionally. But it's just this kind of writing style that makes it really hard to get into at first. It's almost like...it takes a while to get into the rhythm, and once you do, you get sucked in. But if you can't, you won't have a clue what he's talking about. So that's why some people love it and some hate it. This is only my theory.

04-03-2002, 01:17 AM	#72
Jadera Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Somewhere out there Posts: 205	Hmmm.....Maybe I should try watching the West Wing. Sounds like a pretty good show, from what you guys are saying. (And may get me out of my Invisible Man slump. Ack on Sci-fi) The worst books I can think of right now are Harriet the Spy, which was majorly depressing, and The Man in the Iron Mask, which was also depressing. (The movie was okay, I'm a Jeremy Iron fan ) __________________ Whaaaaaaaaaat?? ~Chivalry isn't dead, it just transferred to women~

04-03-2002, 02:56 AM	#74
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	I liked Harriet the Spy as well, but that's okay Yes, Jader, do start watching West Wing, it's really good! Martin Sheen for President! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

04-16-2002, 12:35 PM	#75
Jadera Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Somewhere out there Posts: 205	The Last of the Really Great Wangdoodles was a horrible book, now that I think about it. I couldn't even finish it, which is strange for me. Julie Andrews/Edwards is good author though, her book Mandy was fantastic, I'd reccomend it to anyone. And biographys. I can't stand reading biographys, for some reason. I like doing reports on them even less. I might read J.R.R Tolkein's though. __________________ Whaaaaaaaaaat?? ~Chivalry isn't dead, it just transferred to women~

07-05-2002, 10:00 PM	#77
mirrille Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 479	emplynx, I feel for you...

07-06-2002, 06:39 PM	#78
Willow Oran Deus Ex Machina Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,951	::cowers in a corner:: People are so judgemental about books it's scary. Just because you don't like a book or a style of writing doesn't mean it's a bad book. And before you go around saying that it's a horrible book you should stop to think about how you can say it so that you don't make people who feel otherwise think badly of themselves for reading and liking it. Especially when you didn't finish the story. I personally have never come across a book that I truly hate. There have been books that I wasn't particularily interested in or that I thought were boring the first time I read them and I have to admit that Lord of the Rings was one of those books. Then I re read them this last year when the movie came out and I found that I was now old enough that I could understand what was going on and what they were about and because I was older I found them much more enjoyable. And I've found that that holds true for many books. So before you decide that you hate a book, it's best to forget about for awhile then go back and read it again when you've grown a little. And if you still hate it. Then it's safe to say it's a bad book, but chances are you'll understand it better and it won't be quite so hateable. __________________ "5. Plain Rings with RUNES on the inside. Avoid these like the PLAGUE. -Diana Wynne Jones Tough Guide To FantasyLand ...it's not much of a show if somebody doesn't suffer, and preferably at length. Suffering is beautiful in any case, and so is anguish; but as for loathing, and bitterness... I don't think they belong on the stage at all. - Isabella, I Gelosi

07-08-2002, 10:29 AM	#79
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	Catch 22 is a brilliant book - it aims at (and hits) so many targets, all done with wonderfully understated black comedy. And I was surprised to find that the film version does (I think!) a good job of conveying what the book is all about. __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?

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