The official "What's the Elvish?" thread

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-01-2003, 01:54 PM

I have a question about an Elvish word, and, seeing as there aren't any threads for this, I thought I'd start one.

A friend is creating an Elf in the LOTR RPG, and he wants his name to mean Silver Arrow. He found a site which had a translator into Sindarin, which wasn't very accurate in Elvish. It had pilin as Sindarin for arrow, and I just wanted to know if the more learned speakers of the Elvish-tongues would verify this, or inform me that it's incorrect.

P.S. Do Silvan Elves use Sindarin names?

Falagar · 02-01-2003, 02:04 PM

Pilinn-Arrow
Celeb-Silver

Most Silvan Elves probably used Sindarin, or at least a dialect of Sindarin (I think)

(Pilin is Quenya)

#1GaMGeeGuRL · 02-01-2003, 02:40 PM

That's really one thing I would like to know--is there a book or website that teaches you to speak Elvish? I know a few phrases basically from translated the movie Elvish and the phrases in the book.

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-01-2003, 02:41 PM

Yeah, when I went back, I found out so was the word he was using, Ilsa. I doubt Silvan Elves know Quenya.

Falagar · 02-01-2003, 02:42 PM

There's Ardalambion of course (www.ardalambion.com). That's the best one...

Shadowfax · 02-02-2003, 02:19 AM

Although you must remember that one cannot learn to speak elvish because it is not a developped enough language and there is not enough vocabulary to hold an everyday conversation.

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-02-2003, 02:32 AM

Yes, of course not. I wanted the info for naming purposes.

Guardian_of_the_Forest · 02-02-2003, 03:21 PM

could you please post a link to the site that will translate some words? I once had it but lost it.

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-02-2003, 03:44 PM

As they say, the best is www.ardalambion.com, most likely has vast word files. If you want the translator (which I don't think was very accurate) it's at http://www.elendor.net/translator.php

Narsil's Master · 02-02-2003, 04:57 PM

I can't speak elvish only read and write in it but it sounds write.

Wayfarer · 02-03-2003, 02:57 AM

In quenyan, sheep is máma. I am not making this up.

elendili · 02-03-2003, 05:31 AM

This maybe an offshoot but what would your elven name if you could have one?

I like Laurelin it sounds nice "golden eyes"

galadriel · 02-03-2003, 02:51 PM

Laurelin? Isn't that "golden song"?

laure - gold
lin - song

02-01-2003, 02:04 PM	#2
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Pilinn-Arrow Celeb-Silver Most Silvan Elves probably used Sindarin, or at least a dialect of Sindarin (I think) (Pilin is Quenya) __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle. Last edited by Falagar : 02-01-2003 at 02:06 PM.

02-01-2003, 02:40 PM	#3
#1GaMGeeGuRL Enting Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: #3 Bagshot Row, Hobbiton, The Shire Posts: 71	That's really one thing I would like to know--is there a book or website that teaches you to speak Elvish? I know a few phrases basically from translated the movie Elvish and the phrases in the book. __________________ "When life gives you lemons, clone them and make SUPER LEMONS!!!!!" ~Professor Scudworth LONG LIVE THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE WEE SCARVIES! you'll have to excuse me, i'm not at my best i've been gone for a month i've been drunk since i left there so-called vacations will soon be my death i'm so sick from teh drink i need home for a rest we arrived in december and london was cold so we stayed in thebars along charing cross road we never saw nothin' but brass taps and oak kept a shine on the bar with the sleeves of our coats -chorus- euston station the train journey north in the buffet car we lurched back and forth past odd crooked dykes through yorkshire's green fields we were flung into dance as the train jigged and reeled you'll have to excuse me, i'm not at my best i've been gone for a month i've been drunk since i left there so-called vacations will soon be my death i'm so sick from teh drink i need home for a rest take me home.... by the light of the moon she'd drift through the streets a rare old perfume so seductive and sweet she'd tease us and flirt as the pubs all closed down then walk us on home and deny us a round -chorus- the gas heater's empty, it's damp as a tomb and the spirits we drank are not ghosts in the room i'm knackered again, come on sleep take me soon and don't lift up my head 'till the the twelve bells at noon you'll have to excuse me, i'm not at my best i've been gone for a month i've been drunk since i left there so-called vacations will soon be my death i'm so sick from teh drink i need home for a rest take me home....

02-01-2003, 02:41 PM	#4
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Yeah, when I went back, I found out so was the word he was using, Ilsa. I doubt Silvan Elves know Quenya. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-01-2003, 02:42 PM	#5
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	There's Ardalambion of course (www.ardalambion.com). That's the best one... __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

02-02-2003, 02:19 AM	#6
Shadowfax The Fleet-Footed Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: British Columbia Posts: 913	Although you must remember that one cannot learn to speak elvish because it is not a developped enough language and there is not enough vocabulary to hold an everyday conversation. __________________ Jesus saved me "To remain ignorant of things that happened before you were born is to remain a child" (Cicero, 106-43 B.C.) "Art is a lie which makes us realize the truth" (Picasso)

02-01-2003, 01:54 PM	#1
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	The official "What's the Elvish?" thread I have a question about an Elvish word, and, seeing as there aren't any threads for this, I thought I'd start one. A friend is creating an Elf in the LOTR RPG, and he wants his name to mean Silver Arrow. He found a site which had a translator into Sindarin, which wasn't very accurate in Elvish. It had pilin as Sindarin for arrow, and I just wanted to know if the more learned speakers of the Elvish-tongues would verify this, or inform me that it's incorrect. P.S. Do Silvan Elves use Sindarin names? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-02-2003, 02:32 AM	#7
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Yes, of course not. I wanted the info for naming purposes. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-02-2003, 03:21 PM	#8
Guardian_of_the_Forest Enting Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: A Forgotten Forest Posts: 50	could you please post a link to the site that will translate some words? I once had it but lost it. __________________ ~Jennie ~Lossenhyandowen ~Guardian of the Forest

02-02-2003, 03:44 PM	#9
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	As they say, the best is www.ardalambion.com, most likely has vast word files. If you want the translator (which I don't think was very accurate) it's at http://www.elendor.net/translator.php __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-02-2003, 04:57 PM	#10
Narsil's Master Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Indian,USA Posts: 109	I can't speak elvish only read and write in it but it sounds write. __________________ naur an edraith amen, naur dan i ngaurhoth! well your on fire now. go team fencing!!!! fingolfin rox elven sox

02-03-2003, 02:57 AM	#11
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	In quenyan, sheep is máma. I am not making this up. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-03-2003, 05:31 AM	#12
elendili Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: a galaxy far far away (aka Manchester) Posts: 320	This maybe an offshoot but what would your elven name if you could have one? I like Laurelin it sounds nice "golden eyes" __________________ Dovie'andi se tovya sagain "Courage my soul, now learn to wield The weight of thine immortal shield Place on thy head thy helmet bright Ballance thy sword against the fight See where an army strong as fair With silken banners spreads the air Now if thy bee'st that thing divine In this days combat let it shine: And shew that nature wants an art To conqeur one resolved heart" Andrew Marvell

02-03-2003, 02:51 PM	#13
galadriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: a castle made of clouds Posts: 459	Laurelin? Isn't that "golden song"? laure - gold lin - song __________________ Human kind cannot bear very much reality. dreamflower - for all things Lady Galadriel

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