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Old 04-19-2002, 10:48 PM   #61
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OK You have a point there. But I bet Arwen only gave up her immortility and married King Elesser so she could be famous for thousands of years to come. And that way more people would admire her "great beuty".
I'm not sure if your being sarcastic or not .
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Old 04-19-2002, 10:55 PM   #62
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OK You have a point there. But I bet Arwen only gave up her immortility and married King Elesser so she could be famous for thousands of years to come. And that way more people would admire her "great beuty".
i don't think that was the reason (weakly with mild amazement at your cynicism)
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Old 04-19-2002, 11:05 PM   #63
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I think Eowyn is a really cool character, but up against Arwen she just seems like a child. Arwen had been around for several thousand years and decided to give up literally everything for Aragorn (includeing her life). Eowyn wanted to get out of the house.

Eowyn is much easier to relate to, she is altogether human and her weaknesses are the things that endear her to us, but still, Eowyn vs. Arwen? no chance IMO.

(this is why Liv Tyler is so evil, btw, she's turned Arwen into Eowyn, ugh)
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Old 04-19-2002, 11:48 PM   #64
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Eowyn does seem like a child, but that just makes her interesting. What does IMO mean? As for giving up everything, of course she did, how could she not?
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Old 04-20-2002, 12:16 AM   #65
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I'd have to say Eowyn. Both characters have their good points, and although Arwen isn't in the story much, there are other good points to people rather than just battle-readiness. And Arwen is an elf. . .but besides that, I would say Eowyn because. . .well...(I sense Tano laughing madly right now)...I can relate to her character more.
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Old 04-20-2002, 02:07 AM   #66
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Pffft. Arwen. Bah, she gave up immortal life to marry some long legged 'uman out of the woods who was 1/100th her age, and then when he dies, she realizes she did an oopsie.

Nar- gimmie a sheild maiden any day. Eowyn was blonde too- that counts for more than dainty elf feet any day in my book
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Old 04-20-2002, 02:12 AM   #67
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Pffft. Arwen. Bah, she gave up immortal life to marry some long legged 'uman out of the woods who was 1/100th her age, and then when he dies, she realizes she did an oopsie.

Nar- gimmie a sheild maiden any day. Eowyn was blonde too- that counts for more than dainty elf feet any day in my book
Actually, he's more closer to about 1/20th of her age.

But I argree. Give me a shield maiden any day.
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Old 04-20-2002, 02:15 AM   #68
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What? you spectin da ork to do fractions now?

I use my head to bang on da keyboard and mak wurds!
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Old 04-20-2002, 02:21 AM   #69
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I think you just did use fractions. Sorry for expectin da ork ta use more accurate fractions.
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Old 04-20-2002, 02:35 AM   #70
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Fractions? that little slashy thingy? Ooooh- My head hurts now....
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Old 04-20-2002, 03:58 PM   #72
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Pffft. Arwen. Bah, she gave up immortal life to marry some long legged 'uman out of the woods who was 1/100th her age, and then when he dies, she realizes she did an oopsie.

Nar- gimmie a sheild maiden any day. Eowyn was blonde too- that counts for more than dainty elf feet any day in my book
You may be right, oh well, living forever would be boring anyway. Humans always wanna live forever because of avid curiosity, we wanna know what's next. Bt watching history repeat over nd over again would drive everyone crazy
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Old 04-20-2002, 04:03 PM   #73
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Since when did orks care for blond hair? Aren't you more concerned about how many warts they have?
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Old 04-20-2002, 11:05 PM   #74
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Noo- blondes scream in a higher key
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Old 04-21-2002, 01:35 PM   #75
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But there are lots of blondes with deep voices. You would think that shield maidens would be pretty masculine anyway. Arwen would be the most vulnerable by far. Except in the movie, where Eowyn is probably a wuss
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Old 04-21-2002, 01:57 PM   #76
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Galadriel was blonde, but her voice was "deeper than a woman's wont".
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See? People agree with me.
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Old 04-21-2002, 09:40 PM   #78
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. Except in the movie, where Eowyn is probably a wuss
Should I assume, by that statement, that you have not seen the trailer? She is definitely not a wuss....okay, shutting up now.
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Old 04-21-2002, 10:32 PM   #79
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Your human ears just can't detect the subtle high pitch variations
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