Trolls Talk?!!?

Kyote Fields · 08-22-2001, 01:42 PM

I thought I had read somewhere that trolls were created so stupid that they were never able to grasp speech. So I suppose the three trolls that Bilbo found in the woods were, comparitively, geniuses, cream of the crop trolls I suppose. What's up with that? And why do they speak with cockney accents?

Comic Book Guy · 08-22-2001, 04:04 PM

I believe Sauron when he bred the different breeds of Trolls (Cave Trolls, Hill Trolls etc) and the olog-hai He made them more intelligent so they could learn the abillity of speech.

As for the cockney accent, perhaps tolkien wanted to make them look more dumb

Kyote Fields · 08-22-2001, 04:12 PM

The rain in Spain....

'eh wouldn't ya think so 'enry 'iggins...

Yeah it does sound kind of dumb.

Ñólendil · 08-22-2001, 08:25 PM

I believe this is covered in the Appendices. You'll look for the section that's divided up by Peoples, and their languages. One on Elves, and Dwarves and Men and such, and 'other Races'. You'll find Trolls in 'other Races'.

Finmandos12 · 08-22-2001, 08:33 PM

Those trolls were geniuses. Most trolls could not speak (the Olog-hai were taught the Black Speech)

Spock · 08-23-2001, 01:50 PM

Well they weren't from London so they had to be from somewhere else.
That almost makes sense.

webwizard333 · 08-23-2001, 07:05 PM

I hated that play. I thought all trolls were capable of speech. And as for geniuses, they did set a trap for the dwarves.

ringbearer · 08-23-2001, 10:13 PM

I thought the troll's cockney accent was hillarius..."Mutton today, mutton yesterday, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton agin tomorrer!" (quote from memory...so forgive mistakes)

webwizard333 · 08-24-2001, 07:14 PM

Yes, they sure liked their mutton and dwarves

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08-22-2001, 01:42 PM	#1
Kyote Fields Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: California Posts: 218	Trolls Talk?!!? I thought I had read somewhere that trolls were created so stupid that they were never able to grasp speech. So I suppose the three trolls that Bilbo found in the woods were, comparitively, geniuses, cream of the crop trolls I suppose. What's up with that? And why do they speak with cockney accents? __________________ No longer posting. If you'd like to write to me I can be reached at kyote_fields@hotmail.com. It was nice knowing all of you.

08-22-2001, 04:12 PM	#3
Kyote Fields Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: California Posts: 218	Trolls The rain in Spain.... 'eh wouldn't ya think so 'enry 'iggins... Yeah it does sound kind of dumb. __________________ No longer posting. If you'd like to write to me I can be reached at kyote_fields@hotmail.com. It was nice knowing all of you.

08-22-2001, 08:25 PM	#4
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	I believe this is covered in the Appendices. You'll look for the section that's divided up by Peoples, and their languages. One on Elves, and Dwarves and Men and such, and 'other Races'. You'll find Trolls in 'other Races'. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

08-23-2001, 07:05 PM	#7
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	I hated that play. I thought all trolls were capable of speech. And as for geniuses, they did set a trap for the dwarves. __________________ Boo!

08-23-2001, 10:13 PM	#8
ringbearer Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA Posts: 561	I thought the troll's cockney accent was hillarius..."Mutton today, mutton yesterday, and blimey, if it don't look like mutton agin tomorrer!" (quote from memory...so forgive mistakes) __________________ Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty! Last edited by ringbearer : 08-23-2001 at 10:15 PM.

08-22-2001, 04:04 PM	#2
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	I believe Sauron when he bred the different breeds of Trolls (Cave Trolls, Hill Trolls etc) and the olog-hai He made them more intelligent so they could learn the abillity of speech. As for the cockney accent, perhaps tolkien wanted to make them look more dumb

08-22-2001, 08:33 PM	#5
Finmandos12 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 327	Those trolls were geniuses. Most trolls could not speak (the Olog-hai were taught the Black Speech)

08-23-2001, 01:50 PM	#6
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Well they weren't from London so they had to be from somewhere else. That almost makes sense.

08-24-2001, 07:14 PM	#9
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	Yes, they sure liked their mutton and dwarves . __________________ Boo!

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