The Hobbit" movie might never happen. :-(

[Coffeehouse]

Yeah, Ian Holmes, that was his name.
He's a good actor but this time we need a new face who knows how to appear slightly snobbish with a British touch to it added with a wholehearted interest in bakery and a knack for looking mischievious & sneaky while at the same time appearing completely lost!

I wonder..

[The Gaffer]

Shame it won't be Ian Holm.

I would expect The Hobbit film to be better than LOTR: better director and better story!

[shesabrandybuck]

Better than LOTR?? Possibly. I honestly dont care what everyone else says, but I loved LOTR and PJ. But I cant wait to see how this new director takes care of things! Oh I'm so excited. I should probably re-read it sometime before the movie comes out, which isn't really any time soon...

[Empress_Flynn]

I agree about PJ.... yeah, he made some major changes but he was really really passionate about the project and I still think he did a bang up job... I think he'd do a great job with the Hobbit as well...

I'm interested to see what del Toro will do with The Hobbit though ^^

[Coffeehouse]

& I'm sure PJ's passion for Middle Earth hasn't diminished, so that'll be a good asset when he helps Del Toro in making the movies.

I can't wait till they show us some short trailer (even if that means less than 20 seconds of footage), that's when lots of new fans (and old) will flock to this place like mad!

[Empress_Flynn]

Oh yes... the two of them together.... that will be one fantastarific adaptation...

[Mark of Cenla]

I am all for both of the planned movies. The last I read, the Hobbit will come out in 2011, and the "bridge" movie will come out in 2012. Good things come to those who wait. Peace and goodwill.

[jammi567]

Some video interviews dealing with the film:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rZOJJ8uwnJk

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NbiuY7NX_oU

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2HUMmsSZQi8

[barrelrider110]

Originally Posted by jammi567

Some video interviews dealing with the film:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rZOJJ8uwnJk

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NbiuY7NX_oU

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2HUMmsSZQi8

Yep, Doug Jones will definitely be in the film. If not the Elven King, then a hemorrhoid.

[Rûdhaglarien]

I am looking forward to this, despite the ever-present fear of disappointment I have each and every time a book I love is adapted for the screen. I think it'll be nice to have the entire story on film, too. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes of it and hope for the best.

[Acalewia]

Originally Posted by Empress_Flynn

Yeah... that's the plan anyway... del Toro's great though.. check out Pan's Labyrinth....

Everything Del Toro does is great. He's a first rate director in my book

Originally Posted by shesabrandybuck

Andy Serkis?

Oh yeah.

Originally Posted by barrelrider110

Yep, Doug Jones will definitely be in the film. If not the Elven King, then a hemorrhoid.

Del Toro and the actor himself did confirm that Doug will be in both Hobbit movies. Its not known,though, who he'll be playing, but knowing Doug it'll prolly be multiple roles.

Last I heard the first one will come out Dec 2012.

Check out www.deltorofilms.com/theshire for updates. There are links to Del Toro Films, The Labyrinth, The Wire (All Del Toro sites), TheOneRing.net and Frodo Franchise

So far nothing "earth shattering" as a mod on deltorofilms.com's message board said.

[Noldori]

I absolutely adore Guillermo Del Toro so I am really excited about the film.

I am really only worried about what they are going to cut out of the book, because they probably won't include everything.

[Gordis]

I am really worried about what they are going to ADD to the book, because they probably will add a lot of crap.

[Coffeehouse]

Originally Posted by Noldori

I absolutely adore Guillermo Del Toro so I am really excited about the film.

I am really only worried about what they are going to cut out of the book, because they probably won't include everything.

They might change things in certain scenes but I really doubt that they will cut much. The book looks ideal to adapt to a movie since it's timespan is relatively short and there really isn't that much long dialogue and attention to detail as in LOTR, not anywhere near really..

I think it will be a great movie considering what Del Toro has laid out. He wants to make the first movie basically with nearly all of the Hobbit, and in the second movie the Hobbit will transfuse with the LOTR, covering the time between the two stories.

Okey so here's my theory as to how they could divide the two movies:

If they decide to include the ending of the Hobbit in the second movie instead of the first then my educated guess() would be that the first movie ends when Bilbo and the dwarves head for Lake-Town in their barrels. It would be a really good period in the book to 'faze out', and then come back to this part at the beginning of the second movie

This way the climactic battle in the Hobbit is included in the second movie while it gives Del Toro the opportunity to really do justice do the start of the story in Hobbiton, the meeting with the trolls, the riddles with Gollum, the lair of the Goblin King, Beorn(!), the Spiders and the Wood-elves. That way they have both time and opportunity to make the encounter with Smaug and the War of the Five Armies into something spectacular

Originally Posted by Gordis

I am really worried

That's a surprise

[Earniel]

It is indeed a possibility, I suppose, but not one I would prefer. I think the Hobbit can be poured into one film, with some tighter pacing. Spreading it over two films would, IMO, be used more for deviations, instead of proper development of existing scenes. In this, I tend to follow Gordis' concerns.

But I would think, that if events of the Hobbit were transported to the yet undefined second movie, this would have been put forward in interviews? I have not read anything indicating this. I had the impression that the second movie would be wholy new material, not merely partially.

[Coffeehouse]

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Spreading it over two films would, IMO, be used more for deviations, instead of proper development of existing scenes.

Can't say I follow that logic... Explain please

Making the second movie with material not present in the Hobbit is probably workable, but to hold a certain silver lining, such as they did in the LOTR, the director would probably like to keep the audience a bit on the edge at the end of the first movie, and that way the 'fazing out' with the barrels could be one of many scenarios for doing that.

[The Dread Pirate Roberts]

Looks like I've been a little out of date:Hobbit - One Tale in Two Parts

The Hobbit will be spread out through two films, with the White Council & Aragorn stuff included throughout, rather than one Hobbit film and one "bridge" film, as originally envisioned.

[Earniel]

Hm, so my hypothetical marketing dude has got his wish...

[Coffeehouse]

Just the kind of Hobbit-over-two-movies theory I laid out I think they've made a good choice, this will make room for higher quality and better depth in important scenes than rushing it.

[Noldori]

Originally Posted by Coffeehouse

Just the kind of Hobbit-over-two-movies theory I laid out I think they've made a good choice, this will make room for higher quality and better depth in important scenes than rushing it.

I agree. I actually think that this is really going to help a lot more than hurt The Hobbit in the detail aspect. However, I don't think that my fears will be quelled until the film actually is released.