Just a question.....

musicalandlotrlovr · 04-03-2002, 07:08 PM

Hi! I'm back! Anyway, I was wondering, how did you get the rights of "Lord of the Rings" to make this musical? Do you know who you should get in touch with if you want the rights to use a book or something?

**hama** · 04-04-2002, 11:04 PM

Doesn't anyone else have the answer to this one?

Agburanar · 04-12-2002, 04:05 AM

The rights to LoTR used to be held by the Tolkien society. Before that they were owned in part by I.C.E., now I don't know who holds them, but I suspect that the Tolkien Society would be able to tell you where to look.

orkybash · 04-13-2002, 12:47 PM

I would guess the Tolkien Estate, myself.

**hama** · 04-15-2002, 12:32 AM

Okay, I have actually answered this question elsewhere on the forum but the owner of the character and place names of LOTR is Saul Zaentz (sp?), Inc. He is listed as a producer of the films and perhaps his greatest claim to fame is as producer of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" starring Jack Nicholson. Saul Zaentz Inc. purchased the rights from the tolkien estate and has a dba (Doing Business As) Tolkien Enterprises. The Tolkien Estate has no control over his work beyond what is precisely described in his will.

I do not own the rights. I own, or I should say the company I formed, owns the first right of refusal to produce a musical for Broadway or London. If someone approaches Tolkien Enterprises about wanting to buy the rights for a broadway musical production I have the right to match the offer. If I fail or refuse to do so, the rights are then sold to that other party.

Agburanar · 04-16-2002, 04:31 AM

So if someone else wanted to do a LoTR musical you could say no? Good power. Does that mean you could get any musical stopped if you had good grounds to do so (and enough money!)?

**hama** · 04-16-2002, 11:08 PM

Well not exactly. Of course having the right to make sure some Broadway musicals never got done would be a great thing. Cats, Big The Red Shoes immediately come to mind. As for the power of my option on the rights, if someone else wants to to do a musical of LotR, they have to come to me first and if refuse to match the offer they make, then Tolkien Enterprises is free to sell the rights to them. It is a way of controlling the rights without having to pay the whole cost up front. It is like having an option. I hope to excercize that option before anyone else gets a production put together.

04-03-2002, 07:08 PM	#1
musicalandlotrlovr Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 25	Just a question..... Hi! I'm back! Anyway, I was wondering, how did you get the rights of "Lord of the Rings" to make this musical? Do you know who you should get in touch with if you want the rights to use a book or something?

04-04-2002, 11:04 PM	#2
hama Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 181	Doesn't anyone else have the answer to this one? __________________ The guard stepped back and looked with amazement on Aragorn. `It seems that you are come on the wings of song out of the forgotten days,' he said. `It shall be, lord, as you command.'

04-12-2002, 04:05 AM	#3
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	The rights to LoTR used to be held by the Tolkien society. Before that they were owned in part by I.C.E., now I don't know who holds them, but I suspect that the Tolkien Society would be able to tell you where to look. __________________ I would wish, were it to any avail, that the LORD OF THE RINGS FILMS had never been wrought. ROLLING STOCK, WE'RE ROLLING STOCK!!

04-15-2002, 12:32 AM	#5
hama Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 181	Okay, I have actually answered this question elsewhere on the forum but the owner of the character and place names of LOTR is Saul Zaentz (sp?), Inc. He is listed as a producer of the films and perhaps his greatest claim to fame is as producer of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" starring Jack Nicholson. Saul Zaentz Inc. purchased the rights from the tolkien estate and has a dba (Doing Business As) Tolkien Enterprises. The Tolkien Estate has no control over his work beyond what is precisely described in his will. I do not own the rights. I own, or I should say the company I formed, owns the first right of refusal to produce a musical for Broadway or London. If someone approaches Tolkien Enterprises about wanting to buy the rights for a broadway musical production I have the right to match the offer. If I fail or refuse to do so, the rights are then sold to that other party. __________________ The guard stepped back and looked with amazement on Aragorn. `It seems that you are come on the wings of song out of the forgotten days,' he said. `It shall be, lord, as you command.'

04-16-2002, 04:31 AM	#6
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	So if someone else wanted to do a LoTR musical you could say no? Good power. Does that mean you could get any musical stopped if you had good grounds to do so (and enough money!)? __________________ I would wish, were it to any avail, that the LORD OF THE RINGS FILMS had never been wrought. ROLLING STOCK, WE'RE ROLLING STOCK!!

04-13-2002, 12:47 PM	#4
orkybash Sapling Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 4	I would guess the Tolkien Estate, myself.

04-16-2002, 11:08 PM	#7
hama Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 181	Well not exactly. Of course having the right to make sure some Broadway musicals never got done would be a great thing. Cats, Big The Red Shoes immediately come to mind. As for the power of my option on the rights, if someone else wants to to do a musical of LotR, they have to come to me first and if refuse to match the offer they make, then Tolkien Enterprises is free to sell the rights to them. It is a way of controlling the rights without having to pay the whole cost up front. It is like having an option. I hope to excercize that option before anyone else gets a production put together. __________________ The guard stepped back and looked with amazement on Aragorn. `It seems that you are come on the wings of song out of the forgotten days,' he said. `It shall be, lord, as you command.'

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