SPOILERS My theory on the Neville thing

Yamagata · 06-30-2003, 02:26 PM

Ok, here's what I think the relevence of the Neville thing is:
I think that Voldemort will discover that Neville could also have had the power to kill him and, realising he could be Harry's equal, turns him into a death eater and Harry will either have to kill him or turn him back somehow.
Just my theory, doesn't mean it'll happen.
I'm still in denail about Sirius by the way.

Sheeana · 06-30-2003, 04:22 PM

It could be that Harry's so-called mark isn't the mark, and therefore isn't fulfilling the prophecy - perhaps Neville is the one to take down Voldemort, and Voldemort hasn't marked either as his equal yet? OR perhaps it isn't a physical mark, but a metaphysical one - look at how weak and pathetic Neville is... perhaps Voldemort perceived him as a threat, and marked him, by stealing his powers? (Yep, I know I'm grasping at straws here... but who knows - JK *did* point out Harry's propensity for play the hero.)

Lady of Rohan · 06-30-2003, 10:47 PM

I think that was the only reason he was put into Griffendor (Neville, that is). If the sorting hat could know about the prophecy.

I think that Harry will start to think that Neville was the one who can kill Voldemort, and then Neville will die and then Harry will try and kill him and realize he is the one. (That was really random).

***HOBBIT*** · 07-01-2003, 12:27 AM

I really doubt that. Neville may play some role in the destruction of voldemort, but I highly doubt that Neville will be killed, turned into a deatheater, or made the one. It doesn't make any sense.

gollum9630 · 07-01-2003, 01:12 AM

maybe it will take both him and Harry to defeat Voldemort. I agree with HOBBIT, there is no way Neville will be made a death eater, though i think it is a possibility he may get killed.

***IronParrot*** · 07-01-2003, 03:25 AM

Neville's going to deliver the death blow, and Voldy's going to realize that he picked the wrong kid in the first place.

No, really! It's foreshadowed by how in The Philosopher's Stone, it's Neville's extra few points and surge of courage that wins Gryffindor the House Cup...

Millane · 07-01-2003, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by Sheeana
It could be that Harry's so-called mark isn't the mark, and therefore isn't fulfilling the prophecy - perhaps Neville is the one to take down Voldemort, and Voldemort hasn't marked either as his equal yet? OR perhaps it isn't a physical mark, but a metaphysical one - look at how weak and pathetic Neville is... perhaps Voldemort perceived him as a threat, and marked him, by stealing his powers? (Yep, I know I'm grasping at straws here... but who knows - JK *did* point out Harry's propensity for play the hero.)

hmmm so you think Dumbledore has stuffed up? because he says that Voldemort has already marked Harry as his equal. Maybe im getting confused because i dont have my book here but wasnt Voldemorts equal supposed to gain his powers with the marking if so then Harry has to be the equal, see i dont see Neville as being affected by the prophecy anymore and whatever he does will only be out of the fire in his belly, hence neville will not become a Death Eater or be the equal... i think that he will become so enraged that he will go after Bellatrix himself and will be caught and used as bait for Harry (sorta bravheart style) then Harry will come, Nevile will die and Harry will save the day

Lady of Rohan · 07-01-2003, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by HOBBIT
I really doubt that. Neville may play some role in the destruction of voldemort, but I highly doubt that Neville will be killed........

Why not? Sirius was killed off, why can't Neville be?

sun-star · 07-01-2003, 11:38 AM

I don't know exactly how, but I'm sure that Harry will need Neville to defeat Voldemort in some way. Neville got much stronger during OoP, and he certainly has a motive to go after Voldemort - that scene with his parents nearly broke my heart

gimli7410 · 07-01-2003, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by Lady of Rohan
Why not? Sirius was killed off, why can't Neville be?

JKR already said there was going to be more deaths to come so who knows.

on the neville thinig: he would never become a death eater after what happened to his parents, i figure he will try and kill bellatrix lestrange and he will but then voldemort will kill him (unfortunately of course)

Fimbrethil · 07-01-2003, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Sheeana
IJK *did* point out Harry's propensity for play the hero.)

Yeah but if Harry parents hadn't died do you really think he would still love to play hero?

Sheeana · 07-01-2003, 04:14 PM

With James as his father -- yes.

Linaewen · 07-02-2003, 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by gimli7410
on the neville thinig: he would never become a death eater after what happened to his parents, i figure he will try and kill bellatrix lestrange and he will but then voldemort will kill him (unfortunately of course)

I agree. I doubt Neville would become a Death Eater..ever. It would be betraying his parents, no?
I also agree with the second part- I think Neville is going to do something to get revenge- whether it will be prepared beforehand or spontaneous, I'm not sure. He certainly has reason enough to do so, and based on what we've seen in OotP, sufficient courage too.

EyeSeeYou · 07-03-2003, 11:10 AM

i think neville is going to end up being one of the survivors. and i agree with Linaewen on neville possibly getting revenge against voldemort or a death eater.

06-30-2003, 02:26 PM	#1
Yamagata Sapling Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Silent Planet Posts: 10	SPOILERS My theory on the Neville thing Ok, here's what I think the relevence of the Neville thing is: I think that Voldemort will discover that Neville could also have had the power to kill him and, realising he could be Harry's equal, turns him into a death eater and Harry will either have to kill him or turn him back somehow. Just my theory, doesn't mean it'll happen. I'm still in denail about Sirius by the way. __________________ "I'll tell you my job isn't to believe or disbelieve, it's to act, or not act" "Iron Maiden's gonna get ya no matter how far"

06-30-2003, 04:22 PM	#2
Sheeana Lord of the Pants Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,382	It could be that Harry's so-called mark isn't the mark, and therefore isn't fulfilling the prophecy - perhaps Neville is the one to take down Voldemort, and Voldemort hasn't marked either as his equal yet? OR perhaps it isn't a physical mark, but a metaphysical one - look at how weak and pathetic Neville is... perhaps Voldemort perceived him as a threat, and marked him, by stealing his powers? (Yep, I know I'm grasping at straws here... but who knows - JK did point out Harry's propensity for play the hero.) Last edited by Sheeana : 06-30-2003 at 04:24 PM.

07-01-2003, 12:27 AM	#4
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07-01-2003, 01:12 AM	#5
gollum9630 Canadian Guy. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The true North Strong and Free Posts: 1,513	maybe it will take both him and Harry to defeat Voldemort. I agree with HOBBIT, there is no way Neville will be made a death eater, though i think it is a possibility he may get killed. __________________ "Canadians are so apathetic, but, what are you gonna do about it" -Glen Foster Wierd Harry Potter quotes the old nintendo duck hunt game Lemmings Swron Random Homer Simpson Quotes

07-01-2003, 03:25 AM	#6
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	Neville's going to deliver the death blow, and Voldy's going to realize that he picked the wrong kid in the first place. No, really! It's foreshadowed by how in The Philosopher's Stone, it's Neville's extra few points and surge of courage that wins Gryffindor the House Cup... __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

06-30-2003, 10:47 PM	#3
Lady of Rohan Doughy Elf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,006	I think that was the only reason he was put into Griffendor (Neville, that is). If the sorting hat could know about the prophecy. I think that Harry will start to think that Neville was the one who can kill Voldemort, and then Neville will die and then Harry will try and kill him and realize he is the one. (That was really random).

07-01-2003, 11:38 AM	#9
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	I don't know exactly how, but I'm sure that Harry will need Neville to defeat Voldemort in some way. Neville got much stronger during OoP, and he certainly has a motive to go after Voldemort - that scene with his parents nearly broke my heart __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.

07-01-2003, 04:14 PM	#12
Sheeana Lord of the Pants Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,382	With James as his father -- yes.

07-03-2003, 11:10 AM	#14
EyeSeeYou Hobbit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Across the water Posts: 30	i think neville is going to end up being one of the survivors. and i agree with Linaewen on neville possibly getting revenge against voldemort or a death eater. __________________ "... and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives..."

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