accursed Charn and other matters

Midge · 02-11-2011, 12:55 AM

Well, yes, magic spells use words. But there are "magic powers" like being invisible, flying, shooting something from your hand that I would consider magic that doesn't involve words.

I'm a terrible person to ask on the other question. I would say they're the same. Surely, God has a huge part to play in one's spiritual life (or Aslan or whatever), but I would also say that God has the same part to play in science. After all, He created the world. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't real. He came up with all the postulates and theorems that work together in arithmetic, He made up the "rules" of science (the real ones, whether or not we've figured them out yet).

Much like it can be impossible to prove which kid broke the vase, it's impossible to "prove" the existence of God (that's the whole point of faith, after all). That doesn't mean He doesn't exist and He didn't orchestrate the organization of the entire universe, let alone the world. So, for me, science can be very spiritual, I guess. The two are basically the same.

02-11-2011, 12:55 AM	#1
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Well, yes, magic spells use words. But there are "magic powers" like being invisible, flying, shooting something from your hand that I would consider magic that doesn't involve words. I'm a terrible person to ask on the other question. I would say they're the same. Surely, God has a huge part to play in one's spiritual life (or Aslan or whatever), but I would also say that God has the same part to play in science. After all, He created the world. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't real. He came up with all the postulates and theorems that work together in arithmetic, He made up the "rules" of science (the real ones, whether or not we've figured them out yet). Much like it can be impossible to prove which kid broke the vase, it's impossible to "prove" the existence of God (that's the whole point of faith, after all). That doesn't mean He doesn't exist and He didn't orchestrate the organization of the entire universe, let alone the world. So, for me, science can be very spiritual, I guess. The two are basically the same. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!