Who Hates Harry Potter? - Page 8

eowyngirl14 · 03-08-2003, 01:52 PM

1. what series might that be?

2. does all the hype about lotr bother you? to be hones tI only ever finished the series becasue I heard they were making movies about them. So what if it's a children's book (in your opinion- not mine)? Are you saying that only books for adults can be good and recognized for it? What about Winnie the Pooh? that is definetly a children's book and look at al hte movies and TV shows they made off of it! And I don't know anyone who doesn't love Pooh bear!

3.Harry Potter is not simple! so what if they were compared? that doesn't make one better than the other. I compare most books i read to lotr. wether you like it or not lotr and HP do have some similarities!

4.you say you have nothing against childrens books- but you list it as one of the reasons you don't like HP. i would catagorize HP under 'yound adult'. i have never read a 734 page childrens book before!

Lalaith · 03-08-2003, 02:21 PM

1. I don't think that series has been published in english. It is german and called "Die Knickerbockerbande". Reallly cool. I mean it is childish and really simple, but I love it. I have to read it again (I think this proves that I do like childrens books and I know some really good ones). Okay, maybe it is not really a childrens book. Not for very young children. I think its for the age of 10.
2. No, LotR doesn't bother me. And what really made me angry about HP is that also the adults made that hype about a childrens (I still believe it is one) book. And BTW, I don't like Winnie Puuh. I never watched it as a child and I won't do in future. But it doesn't bother me. I don't have to watch it, but HP is everywhere.
3. You simply cannot compare the complex world of Tolkien to HP. (Nothing against J.K.Rowling)
4. I still think it is a childrens book. Young adult. How old are young adults? 12? I know some 12 old people and they laugh about HP.

Last I have to say that my hatred towards Harry Potter is more about the movie than the book.

eowyngirl14 · 03-08-2003, 04:30 PM

1. sounds... interesting... do you consider yourself an adult, you are 17 i think (from your profile?) if so- you like it so you as an adult are making a big deal about it. do other adults think it is a good book? Your parents must have becasue they gave it to you to read. (well not nessesarily- but they must have known you were reading it.)

2. Winnie the Pooh is everywhere too! have you ever gone to the childrens section of a library?? why does it bother you so much that adults like HP? does it bug you that kids like lotr? (because it is an adults book?)The Hobbit is a childrens book, but I know tons of adults who love it!

3. why not? give me one good substantial reason that has nothing to do with one being marketed towards children.

4. ya- i think yound adult is like 11-13 or so. I my self have just left that section of the bookstore. i know 12 yearolds who think lotr suck and I know adults that would bite your head off for not liking HP. you still seem to be holding the fact that HP is a childrens' book against it.

You never said- did you read all of the HP books?

Lalaith · 03-09-2003, 07:02 AM

I think we will never agree.

1. I don't consider myself as an adult. In fact I don't want to be 18 in a few weeks. My mum said she read one book of the series and she liked it. I was like 10 when I started reading these books (or younger).
(But from what I love to read many people have told me that I read more adult things, which people of my age wouldn't read.)

2. I haven't been to a public library for a long time (except for the one in my school, but there are no children's books). I doubt that young children will understand LotR. And I have read The Hobbit myself. It isn't bad, but I didn't like it like LotR because I don't know why.
3. Because Tolkien has developed a language, a whole world. And J.K. Rowling this wizard. And your 3. question I don't understand. Sorry.
4. I know some people at my age who read the books, they like it but still say it is a book for children. But they can understand that I don't like it. In fact one of them has never completed LotR because she didn't like it that much. She loves the movie, but didn't like the much as much.

yes, I have started reading HP but I got bored and gave it up. I was just not interested in it. But I think if I'll ever have time I'll read it in english just for the challenge of reading it in english.

Lalaith · 03-09-2003, 07:04 AM

I have forgotten to say, that at the age of 17 (almost 18) I'm still in love with this (still) 13-year old boy in this series.

eowyngirl14 · 03-09-2003, 05:18 PM

okay i guess I can understand most of what you posted...
(my question 3 was why can't you compare lotr and HP)

but J.K. Rowling did invent her own world and language. Parstounge- language of the snakes. it was probobly harder to create her world then for Tolkien to create his becasue he just started from scratch and build everything all his own. JK had to fit everything so it fit togeather with our own world and made sense.

Lalaith · 03-10-2003, 02:11 PM

She invented a language? Didn't know that.
I still don't like Harry Potter, but I can live with the fact that you like him. I hope we can agree at least on that point.

**crickhollow** · 03-10-2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by eowyngirl14
okay i guess I can understand most of what you posted...
(my question 3 was why can't you compare lotr and HP)

but J.K. Rowling did invent her own world and language. Parstounge- language of the snakes. it was probobly harder to create her world then for Tolkien to create his becasue he just started from scratch and build everything all his own. JK had to fit everything so it fit togeather with our own world and made sense.

well, the idea of the language is there, but I don't think she's ever actually written anything in Parsletongue as Tolkien has written in Quenyan. I don't mean this as something to hold against Rowling, I've already said that I love Harry Potter, but really. She hasn't written an actual language, she just mentions hissing sounds.

eowyngirl14 · 03-10-2003, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by crickhollow
well, the idea of the language is there, but I don't think she's ever actually written anything in Parsletongue as Tolkien has written in Quenyan. I don't mean this as something to hold against Rowling, I've already said that I love Harry Potter, but really. She hasn't written an actual language, she just mentions hissing sounds.

ya... i guess your right, but my friend and i talk in parsletounge to each other. tis very funny!

okay Lalaith, and i can live with the fact that you don't like him- though just barely!

Lalaith · 03-10-2003, 05:09 PM

Glad that we finally found our way. Maybe we will meet again some time to discuss about another controversial topic.

eowyngirl14 · 03-10-2003, 07:43 PM

yup yup yup!!!!
The mods should be happy that didn't turn into a flaming war!

Lalaith · 03-11-2003, 08:01 AM

History of the world

2003: War between Austria und the US because two fangirls couldn't agree on liking or disliking Harry Potter. Result: Austria destroyed, Harry Potter dead

*gg*
Fortunately we could stop before that.

eowyngirl14 · 03-11-2003, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith
History of the world

2003: War between Austria und the US because two fangirls couldn't agree on liking or disliking Harry Potter. Result: Austria destroyed, Harry Potter dead

*gg*
Fortunately we could stop before that.

lol thats funny!

Estel13 · 03-13-2003, 10:15 PM

Everything eowyngirl14 said I agree with. (And I haven't even read all of it!

)

eowyngirl14 · 03-13-2003, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Estel13
Everything eowyngirl14 said I agree with. (And I haven't even read all of it! )

lol! wow! i feel special! you should read all of it! i have some good debating skills! maybe that's my hidden talent! (i know i must have on somewhere!)

Estel13 · 03-13-2003, 10:46 PM

There's 8 pages, an' I don't have the patience to read all of it. I trust ya!

Lalaith · 03-14-2003, 11:06 AM

What are the two of you doing on a anti-HarryPotter thread?

Silverstripe · 03-14-2003, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by eowyngirl14
ya... i guess your right, but my friend and i talk in parsletounge to each other. tis very funny!

LOL. I did that once, and my friend panicked...

Actually, I have a little bit of one language (about two hundred word vocabulary and grammar rules), and my best friends and I will sometimes talk in that language for a short time. Of course, with only two hundred words, our conversations sometimes translate...

Me: Water is wet.

Friend One: That's right!

Friend Two: Why?

But it's fun anyway. Yes, I am weird, thank you very much!

Estel13 · 03-14-2003, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Lalaith
What are the two of you doing on a anti-HarryPotter thread?

*shrugs* I don't know. Hoping to get it closed, maybe? Or maybe we are trying to convert some of you!

Lalaith · 03-15-2003, 07:54 AM

Quote:

*shrugs* I don't know. Hoping to get it closed, maybe? Or maybe we are trying to convert some of you!

If you talk of convert that way I can't help thinking of a Religion.
Denomination: Harry Potter or LoTR *gg*

03-08-2003, 01:52 PM	#141
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	1. what series might that be? 2. does all the hype about lotr bother you? to be hones tI only ever finished the series becasue I heard they were making movies about them. So what if it's a children's book (in your opinion- not mine)? Are you saying that only books for adults can be good and recognized for it? What about Winnie the Pooh? that is definetly a children's book and look at al hte movies and TV shows they made off of it! And I don't know anyone who doesn't love Pooh bear! 3.Harry Potter is not simple! so what if they were compared? that doesn't make one better than the other. I compare most books i read to lotr. wether you like it or not lotr and HP do have some similarities! 4.you say you have nothing against childrens books- but you list it as one of the reasons you don't like HP. i would catagorize HP under 'yound adult'. i have never read a 734 page childrens book before! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

03-08-2003, 02:21 PM	#142
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	1. I don't think that series has been published in english. It is german and called "Die Knickerbockerbande". Reallly cool. I mean it is childish and really simple, but I love it. I have to read it again (I think this proves that I do like childrens books and I know some really good ones). Okay, maybe it is not really a childrens book. Not for very young children. I think its for the age of 10. 2. No, LotR doesn't bother me. And what really made me angry about HP is that also the adults made that hype about a childrens (I still believe it is one) book. And BTW, I don't like Winnie Puuh. I never watched it as a child and I won't do in future. But it doesn't bother me. I don't have to watch it, but HP is everywhere. 3. You simply cannot compare the complex world of Tolkien to HP. (Nothing against J.K.Rowling) 4. I still think it is a childrens book. Young adult. How old are young adults? 12? I know some 12 old people and they laugh about HP. Last I have to say that my hatred towards Harry Potter is more about the movie than the book. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-08-2003, 04:30 PM	#143
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	1. sounds... interesting... do you consider yourself an adult, you are 17 i think (from your profile?) if so- you like it so you as an adult are making a big deal about it. do other adults think it is a good book? Your parents must have becasue they gave it to you to read. (well not nessesarily- but they must have known you were reading it.) 2. Winnie the Pooh is everywhere too! have you ever gone to the childrens section of a library?? why does it bother you so much that adults like HP? does it bug you that kids like lotr? (because it is an adults book?)The Hobbit is a childrens book, but I know tons of adults who love it! 3. why not? give me one good substantial reason that has nothing to do with one being marketed towards children. 4. ya- i think yound adult is like 11-13 or so. I my self have just left that section of the bookstore. i know 12 yearolds who think lotr suck and I know adults that would bite your head off for not liking HP. you still seem to be holding the fact that HP is a childrens' book against it. You never said- did you read all of the HP books? __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

03-09-2003, 07:02 AM	#144
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I think we will never agree. 1. I don't consider myself as an adult. In fact I don't want to be 18 in a few weeks. My mum said she read one book of the series and she liked it. I was like 10 when I started reading these books (or younger). (But from what I love to read many people have told me that I read more adult things, which people of my age wouldn't read.) 2. I haven't been to a public library for a long time (except for the one in my school, but there are no children's books). I doubt that young children will understand LotR. And I have read The Hobbit myself. It isn't bad, but I didn't like it like LotR because I don't know why. 3. Because Tolkien has developed a language, a whole world. And J.K. Rowling this wizard. And your 3. question I don't understand. Sorry. 4. I know some people at my age who read the books, they like it but still say it is a book for children. But they can understand that I don't like it. In fact one of them has never completed LotR because she didn't like it that much. She loves the movie, but didn't like the much as much. yes, I have started reading HP but I got bored and gave it up. I was just not interested in it. But I think if I'll ever have time I'll read it in english just for the challenge of reading it in english. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-09-2003, 07:04 AM	#145
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I have forgotten to say, that at the age of 17 (almost 18) I'm still in love with this (still) 13-year old boy in this series. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-09-2003, 05:18 PM	#146
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	okay i guess I can understand most of what you posted... (my question 3 was why can't you compare lotr and HP) but J.K. Rowling did invent her own world and language. Parstounge- language of the snakes. it was probobly harder to create her world then for Tolkien to create his becasue he just started from scratch and build everything all his own. JK had to fit everything so it fit togeather with our own world and made sense. __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

03-10-2003, 02:11 PM	#147
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	She invented a language? Didn't know that. I still don't like Harry Potter, but I can live with the fact that you like him. I hope we can agree at least on that point. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-10-2003, 05:09 PM	#150
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Glad that we finally found our way. Maybe we will meet again some time to discuss about another controversial topic. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-10-2003, 07:43 PM	#151
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	yup yup yup!!!! The mods should be happy that didn't turn into a flaming war! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

03-11-2003, 08:01 AM	#152
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	History of the world 2003: War between Austria und the US because two fangirls couldn't agree on liking or disliking Harry Potter. Result: Austria destroyed, Harry Potter dead gg Fortunately we could stop before that. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

03-13-2003, 10:15 PM	#154
Estel13 RPG-aholic Psycho Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Final Fantasy Posts: 733	Everything eowyngirl14 said I agree with. (And I haven't even read all of it! ) __________________

03-13-2003, 10:46 PM	#156
Estel13 RPG-aholic Psycho Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Final Fantasy Posts: 733	There's 8 pages, an' I don't have the patience to read all of it. I trust ya! __________________

03-14-2003, 11:06 AM	#157
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	What are the two of you doing on a anti-HarryPotter thread? __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

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