Impeachment of President Trump

***Valandil*** · 01-23-2020, 01:51 AM

We haven't had a real political discussion here on Entmoot for a long, long time.

What do you folks think about the ongoing Impeachment of President Trump? The charges that were brought up, the trial beginning in the Senate, all the things that have gotten us here???

Say what you like about anyone else (within Entmoot's guidelines) - but as always, be civil to one another.

***Alcuin*** · 01-23-2020, 09:57 AM

kralizec · 01-25-2020, 04:22 AM

Amusing post, Alcuin.
In my opinion it's nonsense. A political spectacle and nothing but a waste of time.

The Gaffer · 01-27-2020, 12:55 PM

It's a bit of a charade if it's not a proper trial. How can you have the jury deciding what evidence is to be shown to them?

Clearly Trump is bent as a nine-pound note and literally the worst person you can imagine holding that high and formerly respected office.

Snowdog · 01-14-2021, 07:44 PM

And now for part 2 - post coup edition of Trump impeachment. A bit more serious this time though I doubt there will be enough republican senators who will vote to convict.

***Earniel*** · 01-19-2021, 10:14 AM

Was the previous impeachment but a year ago? God, time moves like molasses these days, but that still feels like ages ago.

Frankly, IMHO, if having a president goading his extremist followers into a coup by storming the Capitol isn't impeachworthy, I'm at a loss what is.

People have said that Trump could murder someone outright on the streets and would still be protected by the Republican party and it seems those people were correct.

It's bunkers considering how many Republicans could have become victims of the mob in the Capitol and yet after all that they still stand by him and his ilk. Power truly is the most powerful and addictive of drugs.

The Gaffer · 01-26-2021, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

People have said that Trump could murder someone outright on the streets and would still be protected by the Republican party and it seems those people were correct.

I think Trump himself said it, and he's probably right.

It's funny to see the Repugs torn between wanting to inherit the Trumpian base (which works as a noun and adjective here) and wanting to defend their democracy from a fascist mob.

Then you re-read that and it's not funny any more.

***Earniel*** · 01-29-2021, 12:20 PM

Ouch, it would be even more painful if Trump himself had said it. He would have gotten something right after all, then.

I didn't think the GOP would have been this scared of Trump outside of the Oval Office, but considering they still are twisting this way and that to continue to shield him from consequences, it seems I was wrong.

I've also still been hearing things about the republicans still pushing for more and more restrictions on access to voting that I feel like the danger to the American democracy is still very much active and present.

Regardless of one's convictions about what governments should and shouldn't regulate, I can't think of one more pressing duty of democratic governments than the safeguarding and operating of free and correct elections.

The Gaffer · 02-02-2021, 08:01 AM

For the past 20-odd years I've been saying that the Republican party is the second most dangerous political organisation in the world, behind the Chinese Communist Party. Now we see why. I think it's hard to underestimate their moral turpitude.

katya · 02-09-2021, 07:43 PM

So, admittedly, I have not been following all the details of this impeachment or much of what's going on with the new administration, but I'm a little disappointed Trump hasn't been arrested and thrown in prison yet. It's just really baffling to me that there are no consequences anymore, for anything. And I don't really get the reasoning behind "You can't impeach someone after they are not president anymore" if the crimes happened while he was president.

***Earniel*** · 02-15-2021, 11:39 AM

Well, that was a sad day for democracy and good governance the USA.

A sad day but sadly not a surprising day.

01-23-2020, 01:51 AM	#1
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Impeachment of President Trump We haven't had a real political discussion here on Entmoot for a long, long time. What do you folks think about the ongoing Impeachment of President Trump? The charges that were brought up, the trial beginning in the Senate, all the things that have gotten us here??? Say what you like about anyone else (within Entmoot's guidelines) - but as always, be civil to one another. __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

01-14-2021, 07:44 PM	#5
Snowdog Dúnedain Ranger of the North Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ruins of Arnor Posts: 892	And now for part 2 - post coup edition of Trump impeachment. A bit more serious this time though I doubt there will be enough republican senators who will vote to convict. __________________ "I am an outlaw, I was born an outlaw's son. The highway is my legacy, on the highway I will run."

02-09-2021, 07:43 PM	#10
katya Elven Maiden Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,309	So, admittedly, I have not been following all the details of this impeachment or much of what's going on with the new administration, but I'm a little disappointed Trump hasn't been arrested and thrown in prison yet. It's just really baffling to me that there are no consequences anymore, for anything. And I don't really get the reasoning behind "You can't impeach someone after they are not president anymore" if the crimes happened while he was president. __________________ ~~eat until you can't anymore, play until you drop, sleep the day away, laugh, cry, yell, just live live live!~~

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kralizec Sapling Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 7	Amusing post, Alcuin. In my opinion it's nonsense. A political spectacle and nothing but a waste of time.

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The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	It's a bit of a charade if it's not a proper trial. How can you have the jury deciding what evidence is to be shown to them? Clearly Trump is bent as a nine-pound note and literally the worst person you can imagine holding that high and formerly respected office.

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*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Was the previous impeachment but a year ago? God, time moves like molasses these days, but that still feels like ages ago. Frankly, IMHO, if having a president goading his extremist followers into a coup by storming the Capitol isn't impeachworthy, I'm at a loss what is. People have said that Trump could murder someone outright on the streets and would still be protected by the Republican party and it seems those people were correct. It's bunkers considering how many Republicans could have become victims of the mob in the Capitol and yet after all that they still stand by him and his ilk. Power truly is the most powerful and addictive of drugs.

01-29-2021, 12:20 PM	#8
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Ouch, it would be even more painful if Trump himself had said it. He would have gotten something right after all, then. I didn't think the GOP would have been this scared of Trump outside of the Oval Office, but considering they still are twisting this way and that to continue to shield him from consequences, it seems I was wrong. I've also still been hearing things about the republicans still pushing for more and more restrictions on access to voting that I feel like the danger to the American democracy is still very much active and present. Regardless of one's convictions about what governments should and shouldn't regulate, I can't think of one more pressing duty of democratic governments than the safeguarding and operating of free and correct elections.

02-02-2021, 08:01 AM	#9
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	For the past 20-odd years I've been saying that the Republican party is the second most dangerous political organisation in the world, behind the Chinese Communist Party. Now we see why. I think it's hard to underestimate their moral turpitude.

02-15-2021, 11:39 AM	#11
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Well, that was a sad day for democracy and good governance the USA. A sad day but sadly not a surprising day.