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GRONK!!! · 11-27-2002, 08:27 PM

Yeah amazing series but GRONK never really liked the ending of book ten. It seemed like Merlin randomly declared "Ok, game over I win. Lets stop the novel here." Has anyone read this prequel? GRONK will read it, if its not a shame to Zelazny's name.

ringbearer · 11-27-2002, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by GRONK!!!
Yeah amazing series but GRONK never really liked the ending of book ten. It seemed like Merlin randomly declared "Ok, game over I win. Lets stop the novel here." Has anyone read this prequel? GRONK will read it, if its not a shame to Zelazny's name.

Gronk, did you do that on purpose...Merlin ("Randomly") declared"...?...if so...Beautifull!

I know that Chaos supposedly existed before Order(Pattern)...but I think a true confrontation would destroy both and everything...kind of like matter and anti-matter colliding...So Merl had to stop it.

Coney · 12-05-2002, 01:29 AM

Stumbled upon this thread by accident, but glad that I did.

Must give the Amber books a re-read........must be over ten years since I last read 'em

Wonder if they still have the same apeal now that I'm older and dafter

ringbearer · 12-05-2002, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by Coney
Stumbled upon this thread by accident, but glad that I did.

Must give the Amber books a re-read........must be over ten years since I last read 'em

Wonder if they still have the same apeal now that I'm older and dafter

Like LOTR, the more you re-read the better they are...Welcome to the Amber thread!

Coney · 12-05-2002, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by ringbearer
Like LOTR, the more you re-read the better they are...Welcome to the Amber thread!

TY I've a feeling that I'll be posting here quite a bit once I have the time to get back into the books proper (only had time to read first 3 chapters of first book so far).

It's good to see the 'moot has so many would-be Amberites

GRONK!!! · 12-10-2002, 04:28 PM

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Gronk, did you do that on purpose...Merlin ("Randomly") declared"...?...if so...Beautifull!

Er GRONK accidentally does these sort of things all the time, but GRONK has no shame so he'll take credit for it.

ringbearer · 03-06-2003, 12:52 AM

Keep Amber thread alive...Amber Lives!

Coney · 03-27-2003, 09:41 PM

Well, I promised to post again in this thread.

I re-read the Amber books*sigh*

Maybe I'm just getting old but they seemed childish now*shrugs*

Fantasy equivalent of a soap-opera (yup, even worse than the god-awfull Dragonlance books).

Ach well, those new to the heroic fantasy genre will probs like 'em.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-27-2003, 09:42 PM

Just curious, what did you dislike about the Dragonlance books?

Coney · 03-27-2003, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Just curious, what did you dislike about the Dragonlance books?

Hang on Gwaimir, there is a Dragonlance thread around here somewhere, I'll try to dig it up

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-27-2003, 10:13 PM

Hmm, good point, we probably shouldn't go off-topic...

Anglorfin · 08-24-2003, 12:31 AM

I have not read most of this thread because I m afraid of even the littlest of spoilers, but I will say that my friend has just introduced me to these books and I love them. I only read two so far but from what I read I really liked. It seems from this point on that things will get a little more adventur-ey.

But for some reason they are really hard to find in the bookstores so I'm getting a little discouraged at owning a copy of them myself.

ringbearer · 08-24-2003, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by Anglorfin

But for some reason they are really hard to find in the bookstores so I'm getting a little discouraged at owning a copy of them myself.

Look for "The Great Book of Amber" print is very fine, but it has all 10 novels in one HUGE paperback...think it is still available at Amazon.com

ringbearer · 06-29-2005, 10:50 PM

Good news for Amber fans!!! There is a book out now which contains 5 Amber short stories which tie up some loose ends...the book was published in late 2003 and is called "Manna from Heaven"!

Werewindle111 · 08-31-2005, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ringbearer

I know...a lot of loose ends. Hello and Goodby!

I think you mean "Goodbye and hello."

Werewindle111 · 08-31-2005, 12:55 AM

Greeting and Salutations Everyone,

I have read "The Great book of Amber" four times and I have to admit that it is great for anyone that hasn't read it.

I have also read the novel "Lord of Light" and the short stories "Comes now the power", "For a breath I tarry", "Engine at heartspring's center", "Halfjack", "Home is the Hangman", "Permafrost", "Loki 7281", "Mana from heaven" (Not "Manna from Heaven"), "24 views of Mt. Fugi, By Hokusai", "Come back to the killing ground, Alice, My love", and "The Last Defender of Camelot".

I have also read "The Dawn of Amber" series, which includes "The Dawn of Amber", "Chaos and Amber", and "To rule in Amber"(for comeing).

With this I will answer many of your questions concerning "The Great Book of Amber's" background.

This series's my person is Corwin's father, Oberon, at the age of about 26 and just finding out that Dworkin is his father, and of shadows and the Logrus(chaos's pattern).
He tries to escape an enemy which is trying to wipe out his family because Dworkin tries to raise a mightier power(the pattern).
At first Dworkin raises a temporary pattern out in the shadows before Oberon is even born(less than 200 years before) to lessen chaos's power.
Yes Oberon is born from a Unicorn(which does shapeshift) and Dworkin. Dworkin finds the Unicorn after he raises his pattern, and the Unicorn can pass through shadow.
As Oberon is growing after Dworkin finds him, he finds out that Dworkin needs him to cast a new pattern which is in Oberon. So Dworkin erases the temporary pattern, "Sand", and uses the pattern in Oberon to construct the new one out of his blood. And thats where I got to.

And what else...

Oberon didn't make the pattern(Dworkin did)..
Oberon didn't make Amber(Amber was just the first shadow)..
The serpents eye contained the pattern because Dworkin put it there by straping Oberon into a machine and extracting a copy of Oberons pattern..
there are many generations before Dworkin..
Dworkin is only around 225 years old in this series..
... and that's it!

ringbearer · 09-11-2005, 01:48 AM

Well met, Werewindle111!
I have read your list of books by Roger...you must find and read "Roadmarks"!
One of the best "time travel" books out there!
Glad you enjoy Amber!...please answer one question, as I have not yet obtained a copy of "Mana From Heaven"...is Frakir released from the bedpost?!

Werewindle111 · 09-15-2005, 09:02 PM

Im sorry ringbearer but the Mana from heaven that i read was not the novel. The "Mana from Heaven" that i read was one of Zelazny's many short stories and this was about the last remaining group from Atlantis that fight, make that scurmish over "Mana". Mana is some type of cosmic power which is found in natural things to them and the story takes place during now.

The cosmic power "Mana" was once very abundant in Atlantis but they misused it and ran very low. Around this part Atlantis... well.. it sank.
The Mana gave the last survivors unnaturally long lives and they vowed not to overuse it again, and not to breed.(To bad for them.)

Im sorry to say that this short story does not go along with Amber, but im sure there is a book that does.

ringbearer · 09-21-2005, 11:21 PM

Thanks!

Werewindle111 · 09-26-2005, 08:01 PM

Anyone else need to know something about how Amber started or the Amberite family?

12-05-2002, 01:29 AM	#63
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	Stumbled upon this thread by accident, but glad that I did. Must give the Amber books a re-read........must be over ten years since I last read 'em Wonder if they still have the same apeal now that I'm older and dafter __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

03-06-2003, 12:52 AM	#67
ringbearer Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA Posts: 561	Keep Amber thread alive...Amber Lives! __________________ Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty!

03-27-2003, 09:41 PM	#68
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	Well, I promised to post again in this thread. I re-read the Amber bookssigh Maybe I'm just getting old but they seemed childish nowshrugs Fantasy equivalent of a soap-opera (yup, even worse than the god-awfull Dragonlance books). Ach well, those new to the heroic fantasy genre will probs like 'em. __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

03-27-2003, 09:42 PM	#69
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Just curious, what did you dislike about the Dragonlance books? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-27-2003, 10:13 PM	#71
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Hmm, good point, we probably shouldn't go off-topic... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

11-27-2002, 08:27 PM	#61
GRONK!!! Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 46	Yeah amazing series but GRONK never really liked the ending of book ten. It seemed like Merlin randomly declared "Ok, game over I win. Lets stop the novel here." Has anyone read this prequel? GRONK will read it, if its not a shame to Zelazny's name.

08-24-2003, 12:31 AM	#72
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	I have not read most of this thread because I m afraid of even the littlest of spoilers, but I will say that my friend has just introduced me to these books and I love them. I only read two so far but from what I read I really liked. It seems from this point on that things will get a little more adventur-ey. But for some reason they are really hard to find in the bookstores so I'm getting a little discouraged at owning a copy of them myself. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

06-29-2005, 10:50 PM	#74
ringbearer Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA Posts: 561	Good news for Amber fans!!! There is a book out now which contains 5 Amber short stories which tie up some loose ends...the book was published in late 2003 and is called "Manna from Heaven"! __________________ Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty!

08-31-2005, 12:55 AM	#76
Werewindle111 Sapling Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maine, United States Posts: 4	Oberon<->Pattern Greeting and Salutations Everyone, I have read "The Great book of Amber" four times and I have to admit that it is great for anyone that hasn't read it. I have also read the novel "Lord of Light" and the short stories "Comes now the power", "For a breath I tarry", "Engine at heartspring's center", "Halfjack", "Home is the Hangman", "Permafrost", "Loki 7281", "Mana from heaven" (Not "Manna from Heaven"), "24 views of Mt. Fugi, By Hokusai", "Come back to the killing ground, Alice, My love", and "The Last Defender of Camelot". I have also read "The Dawn of Amber" series, which includes "The Dawn of Amber", "Chaos and Amber", and "To rule in Amber"(for comeing). With this I will answer many of your questions concerning "The Great Book of Amber's" background. This series's my person is Corwin's father, Oberon, at the age of about 26 and just finding out that Dworkin is his father, and of shadows and the Logrus(chaos's pattern). He tries to escape an enemy which is trying to wipe out his family because Dworkin tries to raise a mightier power(the pattern). At first Dworkin raises a temporary pattern out in the shadows before Oberon is even born(less than 200 years before) to lessen chaos's power. Yes Oberon is born from a Unicorn(which does shapeshift) and Dworkin. Dworkin finds the Unicorn after he raises his pattern, and the Unicorn can pass through shadow. As Oberon is growing after Dworkin finds him, he finds out that Dworkin needs him to cast a new pattern which is in Oberon. So Dworkin erases the temporary pattern, "Sand", and uses the pattern in Oberon to construct the new one out of his blood. And thats where I got to. And what else... Oberon didn't make the pattern(Dworkin did).. Oberon didn't make Amber(Amber was just the first shadow).. The serpents eye contained the pattern because Dworkin put it there by straping Oberon into a machine and extracting a copy of Oberons pattern.. there are many generations before Dworkin.. Dworkin is only around 225 years old in this series.. ... and that's it! Last edited by Werewindle111 : 08-31-2005 at 12:58 AM.

09-11-2005, 01:48 AM	#77
ringbearer Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA Posts: 561	Well met, Werewindle111! I have read your list of books by Roger...you must find and read "Roadmarks"! One of the best "time travel" books out there! Glad you enjoy Amber!...please answer one question, as I have not yet obtained a copy of "Mana From Heaven"...is Frakir released from the bedpost?! __________________ Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty!

09-15-2005, 09:02 PM	#78
Werewindle111 Sapling Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maine, United States Posts: 4	Im sorry ringbearer but the Mana from heaven that i read was not the novel. The "Mana from Heaven" that i read was one of Zelazny's many short stories and this was about the last remaining group from Atlantis that fight, make that scurmish over "Mana". Mana is some type of cosmic power which is found in natural things to them and the story takes place during now. The cosmic power "Mana" was once very abundant in Atlantis but they misused it and ran very low. Around this part Atlantis... well.. it sank. The Mana gave the last survivors unnaturally long lives and they vowed not to overuse it again, and not to breed.(To bad for them.) Im sorry to say that this short story does not go along with Amber, but im sure there is a book that does. Last edited by Werewindle111 : 09-15-2005 at 09:04 PM.

09-21-2005, 11:21 PM	#79
ringbearer Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA Posts: 561	Thanks! __________________ Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty!

09-26-2005, 08:01 PM	#80
Werewindle111 Sapling Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maine, United States Posts: 4	Anyone else need to know something about how Amber started or the Amberite family?

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