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Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230 |
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09-14-2004, 05:23 PM
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Elven Warrior
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What about Mr. Tolkien? Proffesor Tolkien!? Tolkien the Great!?
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09-14-2004, 07:50 PM
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 All right, all right, there's more: Philip Pullman Robert Louis Stevenson Oh! And Mr. J.R.R. Tolkien!
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But it is the way of my people to use light words at such times and say less than they mean. We fear to say to much. It robs us of the right words when a jest is out of place. -Meriadoc Brandybuck Is there anything I can do that wouldn't inconvenience me?.-Adrian Monk Hogan: What's a definate factor that we can count on? Newkirk: We don't know what we're doing. Do you wanna split a pineapple? -Shawn Spencer |
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09-28-2004, 12:33 PM
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Elven Warrior
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mine (in no particular order) are...
Terry Brooks Robert Jordan Tolkein Robin Hobb Sara Douglass ps u lot are scarily obsessed with tolkein, there are other fantasy writers!!
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Dovie'andi se tovya sagain "Courage my soul, now learn to wield The weight of thine immortal shield Place on thy head thy helmet bright Ballance thy sword against the fight See where an army strong as fair With silken banners spreads the air Now if thy bee'st that thing divine In this days combat let it shine: And shew that nature wants an art To conqeur one resolved heart" Andrew Marvell |
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09-28-2004, 01:12 PM
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Yeah, like George R.R. Martin (2), Steven Erikson (3), Robin Hobb (4) and Neil Gaiman (5). Though Tolkien's still on the top.
Tad Williams starts out nicely but M,S&T becomes more and more boring, and though I liked the two first books, and managed to drag myself through the first part of the third, it was all brought to a firm stop 2-3 chapters into the last part. Feist's Empire-triology is good, and Magician Master and Apprentice quite likable (due to all the action, I suspect), from there only Pug manages to make Silverthorn and ADaS survivable (there is a siege-scene in ADaS which is pretty good as well). For some light, funny reads there exists Terry Pratchett, and for one of the best prologues of all time we have mr. Robert Jordan (who sadly fell from the mountain he started climbing and is now somewhere below water.).
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09-28-2004, 06:40 PM
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the Shrike
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Fal? Did you read Tad Williams Otherland series? It's better, and doesn't suffer from the same boring fate as M,S&T.
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09-28-2004, 06:58 PM
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the Shrike
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Oh... and for those interested in RA Salvatore, he posts quite regularly on this site.
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09-29-2004, 09:10 AM
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Lady Tipple & Queen of Blessed Thistle
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Authiors / Poets / Presidents of the Universe
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JRR Tolkien Niel Hancock Dennis L. McKierman Tad Williams CS Lewis Must reads, almost anything writen by them (especially Niel). I once listened to the LOTR on tape while on extended vacation and I started talking like the characters in the book, the hotel & restraunt staff thought I was from Wales or somewhere "other" than the Pacific NW. 
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09-30-2004, 01:37 PM
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The Lovely Hobbit-Lass
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It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year! |
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10-04-2004, 05:05 AM
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best fantasy written after Tolkien: Memory, Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams.
i really like to encourage all of you who think that it gets boring or slow or whatever, please read on! the story may seem just one of those LotR varations that you can find everywhere ("the new Tolkien" etc.), but that is just the surface. Williams really makes something new out of it by using the common clichés of fantasy (not Tolkiens!) and giving them a very subtle and intriguing ...twist. don´t know how to describe it best without spoiling it. all i can say is that he wrote it in the late 80´s/ealry 90´s, and therefore before the whole sellout (i don´t need to give you the names...), and i consider M,S&T to be one of the very, very rare modern classics of the genre. please, read on! the ending is really a bit confusing (i am re-reading and almost there again), but that only encourages to get the meaning of things that happened hundreds or thousand pages earlier.... Williams may not share Tolkien´s views, but he really has created something that goes deep in many ways. cheers, mewhmag Last edited by mewhmag : 10-04-2004 at 05:11 AM. |
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10-11-2004, 11:11 PM
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Magnificent Master of Buckland
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 Yes, there are other fantasy writers (such as C.S. Lewis who I forgot to put on the list), but that's not the point! Quote:
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But it is the way of my people to use light words at such times and say less than they mean. We fear to say to much. It robs us of the right words when a jest is out of place. -Meriadoc Brandybuck Is there anything I can do that wouldn't inconvenience me?.-Adrian Monk Hogan: What's a definate factor that we can count on? Newkirk: We don't know what we're doing. Do you wanna split a pineapple? -Shawn Spencer |
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10-19-2004, 12:32 AM
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10-19-2004, 09:20 AM
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The Supreme Lord of The Northern Eagles
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haven't read that much fantasy, so i must stivk whit thesee.
JRR Tolkien Douglas Adams Robert Jordan C.S Lewis( haven't read anyhing but the Narnia-books)
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10-19-2004, 10:04 AM
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10-21-2004, 01:31 PM
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The Lovely Hobbit-Lass
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Something that isn't real- fiction.
LotR is NOT fiction. *repeats the phrase to herself over and over and over...*
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It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year! |
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10-23-2004, 01:05 PM
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Elentári
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1 Silmarillion
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10-30-2004, 03:08 PM
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Elentári
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Sorry, I forgot #5 Hitch Hicker's Guide to the Galaxy (book 1
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10-31-2004, 09:34 AM
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Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs
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Isn't HHGTtG more sci-fi? Either way, it's certainly great.
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10-31-2004, 10:27 AM
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Elven Warrior
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On the other hand, Guy Gavriel Kay is often classed as a fantasy writer or Steven Lawhead's retelling of Arthur (or Mists of Avalon) whose connection to the genre is loose at best. For me, Tolkien's LoTR is a modern novel that takes place in the real world. As Tolkien himself says what is "made up" is the historical period in which the events take place, not the world itself which is our world. The Hobbit is a children's story that occurs in the same world and made up historical time as LoTR. So for me, not fantastic and not fantasy, but literature. Similarly Lewis' Narnia isn't fantasy either: it is rather an allegorical tale/beast tale; one could include both of those in fantasy I suppose as long as they also included bestiary's, Reynard the Fox, Spenser's Faerie Queen, Shakespeare's Midsummer Night's Dream and The Tempest, Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress, and so on. So my top 5 fantasy writers would be: Stephen R. Donaldson Ursual Le Guin (Left Hand of Darkness was fabulous!) Guy Gavriel Kay Gordon Dickson Philip K. Dick (well, is he Sci Fi, fantasy? I would say more fantasy because the "science" doesn't play a significant role) I'm sure there'll be disagreements! |
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10-31-2004, 02:27 PM
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the Shrike
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What are you talking about? In Martian Time-slip they're talking about colonising and living on mars. It's pretty hard not to see PK Dick as anything but sci-fi. Sure it's not hard sci-fi, but it's definitely sci-fi.
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