Best place in Beleriand

***Jonathan*** · 08-19-2003, 02:24 PM

Which place in Beleriand would you like to visit most of all? Which place do you think is the most comfortable place to live in?

Doriath seemed to be a very nice place, if you like the woods. Think about it, a huge forest probably full of elves and wonderful animals, and with the Girdle of Melian as protection from evil on the outside, you would be perfectly safe in the woods. And Thingol’s “Thousand Caves”, the Halls of Menegroth, must have been spectacular.

But if you like caves, I wonder if not Finrod’s Nargothrond was nicer than Menegroth, even though Nargothrond was carved on the model of Menegroth. It couldn’t have been for nothing that Finrod was called Felagund (Hewer of Caves) by the Dwarves. His caves were probably the most beautiful things ever carved into a mountain.

Then there was Gondolin, the great Hidden City of Turgon. An Elven city right in the middle of the Encircling Mountains, imagine view from Amon Gwareth (the hill on which the city was built). It must have been astonishing! And if you one morning looked up into the sky, you might spot one of the Eagles of Thorondor circling the sky.
Like the Girdle of Melian protected Doriath, the Eagles made sure that Gondolin was kept secret and safe. Gondolin might have been the safest place in all of Beleriand.

There were many other marvellous places in Beleriand, but these three are the ones that I think could compete for the title ‘Best place in Beleriand’.
What do you think?
[EDIT] If you believe that there are better places than the ones listed above, then say so!

afro-elf · 08-19-2003, 11:57 PM

I might be partial to Gondolin for favorite place.

But, I am keeping my black !@# on the Falas (?) with Cirdan for the safest. In hindsight it was never assaulted by Morgoth.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-22-2003, 09:36 PM

Nargothrond. Need I say more?

Ñólendil · 08-22-2003, 09:57 PM

I hope you won't.

As for me, I would live a quiet life in Nan-tathren, alone, if need be:

Quote:

For I had seen little of the lands of Middle-earth, and we came to Nan-tathren in the spring of the year. Lovely to heart's enchantment is that land, Tuor, as you shall find, if ever your feet go upon the southward roads down Sirion. There is the cure of all sea-longing, save for those whom Doom will not release. There Ulmo is but the servant of Yavanna, and the earth has brought to life a wealth of fair things that is beyond the thought of hearts in the hard hills of the North. In that land Narog joins Sirion, and they haste no more, but flow broad and quiet through living meads; and all about the shining river are flaglilties like a blossoming forest, and the grass is filled with flowers, like gems, like bells, like flames of red and gold, like waste of many-coloured stars in a firmament of green. Yet fairest of all are the willows of Nan-tathren, pale gren, or silver in the wind, and the rustle of their innumerable leaves is a spell of music: day and night would flicker by uncounted, while still I stood knee-deep in grass and listened. There I was enchanted, and forgot the Sea in my heart.

--- Voronwë

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In the willow-meads of Tasarinan I walked in the Spring.
Ah! the sight and the smell of the Spring in Nan-tasarion!
And I said that was good.

--- Treebeard

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-22-2003, 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
I hope you won't.

As for me, I would live a quiet life in Nan-tathren, alone, if need be:
--- Voronwë
--- Treebeard

Don't worry Mr., I won't, because I don't have to. I picked Nargothrond only because Jonathan listed the major kingdoms to choose from, but I have always said that Nan-tathren was where I would always choose to live.

afro-elf · 08-23-2003, 03:34 AM

Best place in Beleriand- a home with a Quendi female companion.

Falagar · 08-23-2003, 12:11 PM

Gondolin, of course. Being under the command of Echtelion while he was chief of the 7th gate (hopefully I would get alot of perms

).

Ruinel · 08-23-2003, 02:06 PM

Nargothrond while my love, Finrod, was alive in Middle Earth. After that, it doesn't matter.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-23-2003, 02:51 PM

Artanis · 08-23-2003, 03:53 PM

Doriath, with Beleg. Lin, are you with me?

Anglorfin · 08-24-2003, 01:56 AM

Gondolin.

Sween · 08-24-2003, 05:21 AM

Tol Galen when Luthien wore the simali!i believe it became the most beautiful of all the mortal lands

Elenna Alaniel · 08-24-2003, 04:00 PM

I think Dorthonion was a beautifull place before Dagor Bragolach.atleast I imagine it beautifull.Doriath and Falas are on the second place

Linaewen · 08-26-2003, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Artanis

Doriath, with Beleg. Lin, are you with me?

Certainly, Artanis.

Gee, SGH and Ruinel, you guys should take a leaf from Artanis' and my book- sharing is caring.

We share Beleg and we never fight And Beleg is better than Finrod too!

Artanis · 08-26-2003, 07:09 AM

Hear, hear!

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-26-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
Certainly, Artanis.

Gee, SGH and Ruinel, you guys should take a leaf from Artanis' and my book- sharing is caring. We share Beleg and we never fight

Well, I don't share such things.

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And Beleg is better than Finrod too!

Beleg is not better than Finrod. Finrod was a king from a noble line. He was also born and raised in Valinor. Beleg was a scruffy servant of Thingol, that lived in the wild half the time. A homeless, wayworn, butt kisser. Finrod had a kingdom

OT- Another place in Beleriand I would like to have seen, but I don't think I would have wanted to live there, was Tol-sirion, before Sauron took it over.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-26-2003, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Artanis
Hear, hear!

See the above post.

Linaewen · 08-26-2003, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Beleg is not better than Finrod. Finrod was a king from a noble line. He was also born and raised in Valinor. Beleg was a scruffy servant of Thingol, that lived in the wild half the time. A homeless, wayworn, butt kisser. Finrod had a kingdom

Yeah, but all Finrod does here is cause fights between the Mooters. At least Beleg can keep a girl satisfied.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-26-2003, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
Yeah, but all Finrod does here is cause fights between the Mooters. At least Beleg can keep a girl satisfied.

My dear, the difference is that Finrod is worth fighting over. Right Ru?

Artanis · 08-26-2003, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linaewen
At least Beleg can keep a girl satisfied.

Two girls.

08-19-2003, 02:24 PM	#1
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	Best place in Beleriand Which place in Beleriand would you like to visit most of all? Which place do you think is the most comfortable place to live in? Doriath seemed to be a very nice place, if you like the woods. Think about it, a huge forest probably full of elves and wonderful animals, and with the Girdle of Melian as protection from evil on the outside, you would be perfectly safe in the woods. And Thingol’s “Thousand Caves”, the Halls of Menegroth, must have been spectacular. But if you like caves, I wonder if not Finrod’s Nargothrond was nicer than Menegroth, even though Nargothrond was carved on the model of Menegroth. It couldn’t have been for nothing that Finrod was called Felagund (Hewer of Caves) by the Dwarves. His caves were probably the most beautiful things ever carved into a mountain. Then there was Gondolin, the great Hidden City of Turgon. An Elven city right in the middle of the Encircling Mountains, imagine view from Amon Gwareth (the hill on which the city was built). It must have been astonishing! And if you one morning looked up into the sky, you might spot one of the Eagles of Thorondor circling the sky. Like the Girdle of Melian protected Doriath, the Eagles made sure that Gondolin was kept secret and safe. Gondolin might have been the safest place in all of Beleriand. There were many other marvellous places in Beleriand, but these three are the ones that I think could compete for the title ‘Best place in Beleriand’. What do you think? [EDIT] If you believe that there are better places than the ones listed above, then say so! __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻ Last edited by Jonathan : 08-23-2003 at 03:45 AM.

08-19-2003, 11:57 PM	#2
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	I might be partial to Gondolin for favorite place. But, I am keeping my black !@# on the Falas (?) with Cirdan for the safest. In hindsight it was never assaulted by Morgoth. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 08-19-2003 at 11:59 PM.

08-22-2003, 09:36 PM	#3
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Nargothrond. Need I say more? __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

08-23-2003, 03:34 AM	#6
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Best place in Beleriand- a home with a Quendi female companion. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 08-23-2003 at 03:38 AM.

08-23-2003, 12:11 PM	#7
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Gondolin, of course. Being under the command of Echtelion while he was chief of the 7th gate (hopefully I would get alot of perms ). __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

08-23-2003, 02:06 PM	#8
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Nargothrond while my love, Finrod, was alive in Middle Earth. After that, it doesn't matter.

08-23-2003, 02:51 PM	#9
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	__________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

08-23-2003, 03:53 PM	#10
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Doriath, with Beleg. Lin, are you with me? __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

08-24-2003, 01:56 AM	#11
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	Gondolin. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

08-24-2003, 05:21 AM	#12
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Tol Galen when Luthien wore the simali!i believe it became the most beautiful of all the mortal lands __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

08-24-2003, 04:00 PM	#13
Elenna Alaniel Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dorthonion Posts: 21	I think Dorthonion was a beautifull place before Dagor Bragolach.atleast I imagine it beautifull.Doriath and Falas are on the second place __________________ Even the smallest person can change the course of the future.

08-26-2003, 07:09 AM	#15
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Hear, hear! __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

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