Finrod Felagund is the coolest Elven king (the one in the Silmarillion I mean)

Finrod Felagund · 05-02-2002, 02:32 PM

FINROD FELAGUND

Thus the realm of Finrod was the greatest by far, though he was the youngest of the great lords of the Noldor.
Felagund strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the king was very great; but Sauron had the mastery as is told in the Lay of Leithian…

Sauron chanted a song of wizardry,
Of piercing, opening, of treachery,
Revealing, uncovering betraying
Then sudden Felagund there swaying
Sang in answer a song of staying
Resisting, battling against power
Of secrets kept, strength like a tower
And trust unbroken, freedom, escape
Of changing and of shifting shape
The prison opening, the chain that snaps

Backwards and forwards swayed their song
Reeling and foundering as ever more strong
The chanting swelled, Felagund fought
And all the magic and might he brought
Of Elvenesse into his words
Softly in the gloom they heard the Birds
Singing afar in Nargothrond
The sighing of the sea beyond
Beyond the western world on sand
On sand of pearls in elvenland

Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing
In Valinor the red blood flowing
Beside the sea where the Noldor slew
The foamriders and stealing drew
Their wite ship with their white sail
From lamplit havens. The wind wails
The wolf howls. The ravens flee.
The ice mutters in the mouths of the sea.
The captives sad in Angband mourn.
Thunder rumbles, the fires burn-
And Finrod fell before the throne.

Thus King Finrod Felagund, fairest and most beloved of the house of Finwe fulfilled his oath.

From Sirion’s Isle they passed away,
But on the hill alone there lay
A green grave, and a stone was set,
And there there lie the white bones yet
Of Finrod fair, Finarfin’s son
Unless that land be changed and gone,
Or foundered in unfathomed seas
While Finrod walks beneath the trees
In Eldamar and comes no more
To the grey world of tears and war

The green grave of Finrod Finarfin's son, fairest of all the princes of the elves, remained inviolate.
But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.

Ñólendil · 05-02-2002, 07:37 PM

I think Thingol was much cooler. I know SGH agrees with me.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 05-02-2002, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by Ñólendil
I think Thingol was much cooler. I know SGH agrees with me.

Right!!! He's crazy Finrod, and I am not talking about Thingol.

afro-elf · 05-03-2002, 08:19 PM

Thanks to SHG I don have a great appreciation for finrod. But I'm partial to Fingolfin

Andúril · 05-04-2002, 10:04 AM

My favourite seems to be Ingwe. I'm not sure why.

Second on my list would be Elwe.

afro-elf · 05-04-2002, 10:18 AM

when someone mentions ingwie I always think of yngwie malmsteen

Finrod Felagund · 05-04-2002, 03:34 PM

Elwe is cool and Fingolfin rocks.
Ingwe really doesn't do anything, as cool as he may be.
Fingon's cool and so is Gil Galad.
Orodreth is kinda wimpy but Turgon rocks.
FINROD IS STILL THE BEST!!!!!!!

Ñólendil · 05-13-2002, 01:53 AM

I'd love to know more about Denethor son of Denweg, the first and last King of the Laegrim, Green-elves.

Tar-Elendil · 05-13-2002, 06:05 PM

Any king of Númenórë is far cooler than any...elf...

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 05-13-2002, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Tar-Elendil
Any king of Númenórë is far cooler than any...elf...

Uh, I think you should rethink that. Especially in light of who is being discussed here. I wouldn't want to have to find Gurthang and make use of it.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 05-13-2002, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by afro-elf
Thanks to SHG I don have a great appreciation for finrod. But I'm partial to Fingolfin

Um, afro-elf, I know that with you being the "Elven Lord of Typing Errors" that SHG means me, but what does "don mean? Do, or don't?

afro-elf · 05-13-2002, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Um, afro-elf, I know that with you being the "Elven Lord of Typing Errors" that SHG means me, but what does "don mean? Do, or don't?

my deepest apologizes mrs. finrod.

that should be DO

SGH SGH SGH SGH SGH surprise

ok maybe it will stick

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 05-13-2002, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by afro-elf

my deepest apologizes mrs. finrod.

that should be DO

SGH SGH SGH SGH SGH surprise

ok maybe it will stick

Thank you for clearing that up afro-elf. You don't have to call me Mrs. Finrod. My title speaks for itself

.

Radagast The Brown · 05-14-2002, 03:09 PM

I like Fingolfin and Finrod more then Thingol. He did sone bad things in his life.

Tar-Elendil · 05-14-2002, 05:02 PM

well..as far as the nauglafring goes with thingol, that wasnt entirely his fault..remember he was under the curse of MÎm the Dwarf.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 05-14-2002, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Tar-Elendil
well..as far as the nauglafring goes with thingol, that wasnt entirely his fault..remember he was under the curse of MÎm the Dwarf.

Where does it say that?

Tar-Elendil · 05-14-2002, 06:06 PM

well i forgot that there are diff versions..
the one im speaking of is when t he elf Ufedhin was with the Nauglath..thingol gave them gold to let them craft in their halls at Nagrod..they brought them back and asked if they could place the silmaril intot he necklace of the dwarves..after their work was complete they asked for each of them seven jewels of valinor, a few bags of silver dust, and a few of gold dust .. for this he gave all of them lashes..then he gave them nine pieces of gold and one of silver and a small gem. but then for payment of ufedhin staying in his halls he took 1 gold piece and 2 silver from all of them.. imt akina ll this from memory so correct me if im wrong..i think he would have acted differently if the necklace hadnt the curse of Mîm upon it..ofcourse he wouldnt given them all they requested, but it would have been more for their great work with the necklace and silmaril.

Finrod Felagund · 05-15-2002, 09:05 AM

Mrs Finrod?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Oh boy I'd forgotten. SGH said we were married but I really didn't believe her.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 05-15-2002, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
Mrs Finrod?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Oh boy I'd forgotten. SGH said we were married but I really didn't believe her.

Yes my king, we are married. You are going to have to find a way to break the news to Amarie.

Ñólendil · 05-15-2002, 05:57 PM

Tar-Elendil, I can tell by the names ("Ufedhin" and "Nauglath" tells me something right away) you're following a much earlier version. Is that Book of Lost Tales or something? The later Elwe Thindicollo was not under any sort of curse from Mîm, but I think the real story of what happened is so obsure and mysterious it's beyond anyone to pass judgment. Besides what is said in The Hobbit, the only thing we can be sure about is that "Thingol quarreled with the Dwarves" (from the Grey Annals).

05-02-2002, 02:32 PM	#1
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	Finrod Felagund is the coolest Elven king (the one in the Silmarillion I mean) FINROD FELAGUND Thus the realm of Finrod was the greatest by far, though he was the youngest of the great lords of the Noldor. Felagund strove with Sauron in songs of power, and the power of the king was very great; but Sauron had the mastery as is told in the Lay of Leithian… Sauron chanted a song of wizardry, Of piercing, opening, of treachery, Revealing, uncovering betraying Then sudden Felagund there swaying Sang in answer a song of staying Resisting, battling against power Of secrets kept, strength like a tower And trust unbroken, freedom, escape Of changing and of shifting shape The prison opening, the chain that snaps Backwards and forwards swayed their song Reeling and foundering as ever more strong The chanting swelled, Felagund fought And all the magic and might he brought Of Elvenesse into his words Softly in the gloom they heard the Birds Singing afar in Nargothrond The sighing of the sea beyond Beyond the western world on sand On sand of pearls in elvenland Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing In Valinor the red blood flowing Beside the sea where the Noldor slew The foamriders and stealing drew Their wite ship with their white sail From lamplit havens. The wind wails The wolf howls. The ravens flee. The ice mutters in the mouths of the sea. The captives sad in Angband mourn. Thunder rumbles, the fires burn- And Finrod fell before the throne. Thus King Finrod Felagund, fairest and most beloved of the house of Finwe fulfilled his oath. From Sirion’s Isle they passed away, But on the hill alone there lay A green grave, and a stone was set, And there there lie the white bones yet Of Finrod fair, Finarfin’s son Unless that land be changed and gone, Or foundered in unfathomed seas While Finrod walks beneath the trees In Eldamar and comes no more To the grey world of tears and war The green grave of Finrod Finarfin's son, fairest of all the princes of the elves, remained inviolate. But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar. __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

05-02-2002, 07:37 PM	#2
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	I think Thingol was much cooler. I know SGH agrees with me. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

05-03-2002, 08:19 PM	#4
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Thanks to SHG I don have a great appreciation for finrod. But I'm partial to Fingolfin __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

05-04-2002, 10:18 AM	#6
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	when someone mentions ingwie I always think of yngwie malmsteen __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

05-04-2002, 03:34 PM	#7
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	Elwe is cool and Fingolfin rocks. Ingwe really doesn't do anything, as cool as he may be. Fingon's cool and so is Gil Galad. Orodreth is kinda wimpy but Turgon rocks. FINROD IS STILL THE BEST!!!!!!! __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

05-04-2002, 10:04 AM	#5
Andúril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	My favourite seems to be Ingwe. I'm not sure why. Second on my list would be Elwe.

05-13-2002, 01:53 AM	#8
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	I'd love to know more about Denethor son of Denweg, the first and last King of the Laegrim, Green-elves. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

05-13-2002, 06:05 PM	#9
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	Any king of Númenórë is far cooler than any...elf... __________________ Why can we not be sober..

05-14-2002, 03:09 PM	#14
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I like Fingolfin and Finrod more then Thingol. He did sone bad things in his life. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

05-14-2002, 05:02 PM	#15
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	well..as far as the nauglafring goes with thingol, that wasnt entirely his fault..remember he was under the curse of MÎm the Dwarf. __________________ Why can we not be sober..

05-14-2002, 06:06 PM	#17
Tar-Elendil Númenorean Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,050	well i forgot that there are diff versions.. the one im speaking of is when t he elf Ufedhin was with the Nauglath..thingol gave them gold to let them craft in their halls at Nagrod..they brought them back and asked if they could place the silmaril intot he necklace of the dwarves..after their work was complete they asked for each of them seven jewels of valinor, a few bags of silver dust, and a few of gold dust .. for this he gave all of them lashes..then he gave them nine pieces of gold and one of silver and a small gem. but then for payment of ufedhin staying in his halls he took 1 gold piece and 2 silver from all of them.. imt akina ll this from memory so correct me if im wrong..i think he would have acted differently if the necklace hadnt the curse of Mîm upon it..ofcourse he wouldnt given them all they requested, but it would have been more for their great work with the necklace and silmaril. __________________ Why can we not be sober..

05-15-2002, 09:05 AM	#18
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	Mrs Finrod?!?!?!?!?!?!? Oh boy I'd forgotten. SGH said we were married but I really didn't believe her. __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

05-15-2002, 05:57 PM	#20
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Tar-Elendil, I can tell by the names ("Ufedhin" and "Nauglath" tells me something right away) you're following a much earlier version. Is that Book of Lost Tales or something? The later Elwe Thindicollo was not under any sort of curse from Mîm, but I think the real story of what happened is so obsure and mysterious it's beyond anyone to pass judgment. Besides what is said in The Hobbit, the only thing we can be sure about is that "Thingol quarreled with the Dwarves" (from the Grey Annals). __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

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