Favourite Valar? - Page 5

Ã‘Ã³lendil · 09-16-2002, 10:29 PM

NÃ¡mo certainly is good, impo. He is after all one of the pure Holy Ones. He is grim, certainly, and far more concerned with justice than mercy, but I would not say that he was neutral.

Aeryn · 09-16-2002, 10:52 PM

I tend to lean towards Varda I mean the stars and elves love stars and Ulmo, because I suppose elves are in love with the sea also, and I am of course and elf !

Lanelf · 09-16-2002, 11:43 PM

Ok...
Yavanna - I feel kinda sorry for her after Ungoliant killed her trees...

Melkor - He's not so bad! I mean, if someone tried to take over my world, I'd take it as a compliment. At least it's worthy of ruling! the Valar shoulda thought that way...
Ulmo - just because he's cool. And I like rivers and things.
Varda - Because stars are PRETTY!
Lanelf.

RhÃ»nboy · 09-17-2002, 01:06 AM

Vana and Nessa, because they sound back... sound like a lot of fun, and probably can throw a party.

But... Orome... his bite is worse than his bark.

And Ulmo for the same reasons, and because he never forsook the forsaken...

~ Connor

Dain · 09-17-2002, 11:23 AM

Must be Morgoth the equal of Manwe, did his own thing and was'nt botherd what the others thought

***RÃan*** · 09-17-2002, 01:09 PM

Varda, because I have always loved stars. (Venus was really bright the other night, and I thought of Earendil in his ship.)

Also ManwÃ«, because I like the part where ManwÃ« grants Melkor pardon because he though that "the evil of Melkor was cured." I like how Tolkien describes ManwÃ« - "For ManwÃ« was free from evil, and could not comprehend it ... " Although he learned from hard experience later on that Melkor was NOT cured - "all love had departed from him for ever."

And lots of others, but I have to go to work now... *sigh*

Nilvasaien · 09-17-2002, 02:21 PM

Ulmo was my favorite, because he did much to aid both Elves and men. Also, he learned more ofthe music of Iluvatar than his fellow Ainur.
A close second is Aule, who loved to create, but not possess.

Radagast The Brown · 09-17-2002, 02:57 PM

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originally posted by Lanelf
Melkor - He's not so bad! I mean, if someone tried to take over my world, I'd take it as a compliment. At least it's worthy of ruling! the Valar shoulda thought that way...

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originally posted by Dain
Must be Morgoth the equal of Manwe, did his own thing and was'nt botherd what the others thought

two more to my club. yeah!

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originally posted by RÃ*an
Varda, because I have always loved stars. (Venus was really bright the other night, and I thought of Earendil in his ship.)

I can believe. I saw something too. the question is what night? I mean, when?

Sparky · 09-17-2002, 03:37 PM

Hello I'm Sparky.

I like Melkor best out of the Valar. I find him fascinating. You have to admit, he is a pretty interesting character.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-17-2002, 03:54 PM

Welcome to Entmoot Sparky.

Can't understand where all these Morgoth fans are coming from.

**Nurvingiel** · 09-17-2002, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Welcome to Entmoot Sparky.

Can't understand where all these Morgoth fans are coming from.

You can't have good without evil, and when Melkor started going off on his own, there was a lot of good. He was necessary to the balance of life. He was also a "character foil" for Manwe. Melkor didn't start out so bad, but he went from rebellious to cruel. I can see why people like him, but he's not my favourite.

I like:
1. Aule (e umlot) because he created the Dwarves, and how cool is that
2. Yavanna because I've always liked the white trees, and how they continued to the end of the third age and beyond.
3. Manwe because he got the ball rolling.

**Nurvingiel** · 09-17-2002, 04:30 PM

Welcome Sparky! Soon, you'll be a Hobbit, only two posts more. I just got promoted, woohoo!

Aeryn · 09-17-2002, 07:28 PM

Congratulations Hobbit and Sapling...I was there once...such a long time ago...*sighs* And welcome Spark

***RÃan*** · 09-17-2002, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
I saw something too. the question is what night? I mean, when?

I think it was about 4 nights ago, but I don't remember for sure. Venus will be visible for a few months over here, but I'm not smart enough to know what you would see there in Israel compared to what I see in California. Sometimes you see Venus at night, sometimes in the morning, but it is always very bright, and usually pretty low on the horizion (no higher than a third of the way up or so, over here). You probably need to check with a local astronomy website. Maybe we can see the same things, because I think we're roughly the same latitude.

I don't understand why you would like Melkor so much, though - are you just kind of being funny? He wanted to take over the world, but only for his own selfish and destructive motives.

Welcome, new Entmooters!! Hope you enjoy it here. I'm almost at 100 posts!! Do I get a new title then?

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-17-2002, 10:01 PM

A little OT but hey, you're all newbies compared to me, so welcome welcome welcome!

Millane · 09-18-2002, 08:01 AM

i didnt like melkor at all he was only the greatest valar because of his deceit when it came down to it Tulkas put him in his place.
to choose a favorite is hard because they are all so awesome but....
i would have to go Aule because of the Dwarves what would middle earth be without dwarves. next would be ulmo and tulkas.

Radagast The Brown · 09-18-2002, 02:05 PM

Every newbie over there who said he likes Malkor - in the club, if he wants. and Welcome.

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originall yposted by Nilvasaien
You can't have good without evil, and when Melkor started going off on his own, there was a lot of good. He was necessary to the balance of life. He was also a "character foil" for Manwe. Melkor didn't start out so bad, but he went from rebellious to cruel. I can see why people like him, but he's not my favourite.

I agree.

***RÃan*** · 09-18-2002, 04:55 PM

Well, Melkor was certainly needed for the story, or it would be a lot shorter! As Tolkien says in the Hobbit:

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Now it is a strange thing, but things that are good to have and days that are good to spend are soon told about, and not much to listen to; while things that are uncomfortable, palpitating, and even gruesome, may make a good tale, and take a deal of telling anyway.

I would agree that you can't have good without evil in a story like this one, but would not agree with that statement overall.

Celebripaur · 09-18-2002, 11:34 PM

I'm not sure which I like more, Ulmo or Varda. Sea and the stars.
Both are rather fitting (having been a sailor in real life).

As to the Maiar, what about Olorin?

Sparky · 09-19-2002, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Every newbie over there who said he likes Malkor - in the club, if he wants. and Welcome.
I agree.

Are you starting a Melkor fan club? If so, I'd like to join

Anyway I agree w/ what was said about the balance between good and evil. I believe that both are needed in order for there to be harmony. A pictoral represation of this would be the yin yang.

By the way, thanx for the nice welcome messages. Things like that make me feel good

09-16-2002, 10:29 PM	#81
Ã‘Ã³lendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	NÃ¡mo certainly is good, impo. He is after all one of the pure Holy Ones. He is grim, certainly, and far more concerned with justice than mercy, but I would not say that he was neutral. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

09-16-2002, 10:52 PM	#82
Aeryn Bank'ress of Sith Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a hot-hot place, heh Posts: 913	I lean I tend to lean towards Varda I mean the stars and elves love stars and Ulmo, because I suppose elves are in love with the sea also, and I am of course and elf ! __________________ my new account name feigndeath. This one is deactivated, I think.

09-16-2002, 11:43 PM	#83
Lanelf Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Second Drawer Down Posts: 407	Ok... Yavanna - I feel kinda sorry for her after Ungoliant killed her trees... Melkor - He's not so bad! I mean, if someone tried to take over my world, I'd take it as a compliment. At least it's worthy of ruling! the Valar shoulda thought that way... Ulmo - just because he's cool. And I like rivers and things. Varda - Because stars are PRETTY! Lanelf. __________________ Hey, I'm back! resounding silence You didn't even notice I was gone, did you? Well, I'm back now anyway. Artemis Fowl must find Mulch Diggums! You'll never shut down the real Napster

09-17-2002, 01:09 PM	#86
*RÃan* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Varda, because I have always loved stars. (Venus was really bright the other night, and I thought of Earendil in his ship.) Also ManwÃ«, because I like the part where ManwÃ« grants Melkor pardon because he though that "the evil of Melkor was cured." I like how Tolkien describes ManwÃ« - "For ManwÃ« was free from evil, and could not comprehend it ... " Although he learned from hard experience later on that Melkor was NOT cured - "all love had departed from him for ever." And lots of others, but I have to go to work now... sigh __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ã‘Ã¡ Ã«?* Ã³Ãº Ã©Ã¤ Ã¯Ã¶Ã¼ Ã–Ã± Ã‰ Ãž Ã° ÃŸ Â® Ã§ Ã¥ â„¢ Ã¦ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lÃ³mÃ«! AurÃ« entuluva!

09-17-2002, 02:21 PM	#87
Nilvasaien Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Either Erebor or Springfield Posts: 31	Ulmo was my favorite, because he did much to aid both Elves and men. Also, he learned more ofthe music of Iluvatar than his fellow Ainur. A close second is Aule, who loved to create, but not possess. __________________ "Somebody was bound to say it one day...I just never thought it would be her."

09-17-2002, 01:06 AM	#84
RhÃ»nboy Sapling Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Flint, Michigan, or Chicago, Illinois, depending on when you ask... Posts: 9	Vana and Nessa, because they sound back... sound like a lot of fun, and probably can throw a party. But... Orome... his bite is worse than his bark. And Ulmo for the same reasons, and because he never forsook the forsaken... ~ Connor

09-17-2002, 11:23 AM	#85
Dain Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 20	Must be Morgoth the equal of Manwe, did his own thing and was'nt botherd what the others thought

09-17-2002, 03:37 PM	#89
Sparky Sapling Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: the firey underworld Posts: 11	Hello I'm Sparky. I like Melkor best out of the Valar. I find him fascinating. You have to admit, he is a pretty interesting character. __________________ I am an exception Ni!!!! That rabbit's dynamite!!!

09-17-2002, 03:54 PM	#90
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Welcome to Entmoot Sparky. Can't understand where all these Morgoth fans are coming from.

09-17-2002, 04:30 PM	#92
Nurvingiel Co-President of Entmoot Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,397	Welcome Sparky! Soon, you'll be a Hobbit, only two posts more. I just got promoted, woohoo!

09-17-2002, 07:28 PM	#93
Aeryn Bank'ress of Sith Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a hot-hot place, heh Posts: 913	congrats and many meetings...uh welcomes Congratulations Hobbit and Sapling...I was there once...such a long time ago...sighs And welcome Spark __________________ my new account name feigndeath. This one is deactivated, I think.

09-17-2002, 10:01 PM	#95
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	A little OT but hey, you're all newbies compared to me, so welcome welcome welcome!

09-18-2002, 08:01 AM	#96
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	i didnt like melkor at all he was only the greatest valar because of his deceit when it came down to it Tulkas put him in his place. to choose a favorite is hard because they are all so awesome but.... i would have to go Aule because of the Dwarves what would middle earth be without dwarves. next would be ulmo and tulkas.

09-18-2002, 11:34 PM	#99
Celebripaur Sapling Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lancaster, Pa USA Posts: 5	I'm not sure which I like more, Ulmo or Varda. Sea and the stars. Both are rather fitting (having been a sailor in real life). As to the Maiar, what about Olorin?

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