Ears

Nilore · 01-16-2003, 07:26 AM

Have you noticed that Hobbits have simila ears to Elves. Hey, they are quite like a cross between a human, elf and dwarf.

Human in features
Elf in ears
Dwarf in size ( just a bit smaller)

I was wondering who else noticed it.

Lefty Scaevola · 01-16-2003, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Nilore
a cross between a human, elf and dwarf.

That must have been a wild orgy.

BeardofPants · 01-16-2003, 02:37 PM

We don't actually know what shape elves ears are.
They are smaller than dwarves, IIRC, and less stocky in build.
Hobbits ARE men.

Artanis · 01-16-2003, 04:26 PM

What's special about Hobbit ears? If you mean pointy, where did you get that from?

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Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
That must have been a wild orgy.

Hee-hee.

Coney · 01-16-2003, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
That must have been a wild orgy.

Yep there were two dwarves present........you had to guess which one was female

The elf left looking very troubled, very troubled indeed

I always presumed hobbits had man-shaped ears

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-16-2003, 09:40 PM

I expect he refers to PJ's movies, though such a post would not fit here. But I think that JRRT did at one point say that Hobbit's had "elvish" ears, meaning pointed; I think this was referring to the fairies and elves of Arthur etc., not to the Eldar of Middle-Earth.

cassiopeia · 01-16-2003, 11:35 PM

Tolkien wrote in the Letters that, when describing Bilbo: A round, jovial face; ears only slightly pointed and 'elvish'; hair short and curling (brown).
"Elvish" here, I believe, refers to the popular conception of elves, so still no evidence that elves had pointy ears.

samwiselvr2008 · 01-17-2003, 04:38 PM

Eather the Hobbit or the prolauge in The Fellowship of the Ring states that Hobbits have pounty earse, I don't know about elves though, I think that it says it somewhere!

Elvedans · 01-17-2003, 05:18 PM

I can't imagine Elves without pointy ears!

Wayfarer · 01-17-2003, 08:23 PM

Too bad for you, then. Tolkien never said that his elves had pointy ears. In fact, ne never mentions their ears at all. That would be odd if they were pointed or even leaf shaped, but since elf ears were the same as human ears it makes sense.

In fact, elves can be told from humans by their bearing, beauty, fair voices, and bright eyes. But not by ears.

Hobbit ears would fall within the maximum genetic variation of the human race. That means that they couldn't have been much more pointed than the ears of any human alive today.

Nilore · 01-18-2003, 11:44 AM

The ears are the only thing keeping elves and Hippies appart though!!!

Coney · 01-18-2003, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Nilore
The ears are the only thing keeping elves and Hippies appart though!!!

Well, there is that and pacifism

Elvedans · 01-18-2003, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Coney
Well, there is that and pacifism

And style and beauty and immortality and wisdom and healing powers and the list goes on and on...

Beleg Strongbow · 01-22-2003, 02:28 PM

My theory is that PJ just likes doing ears.
And shouldn't this belong in the movies, since it's based more on movie ears?

samwiselvr2008 · 01-23-2003, 10:47 AM

Who knows, maybe he always imagined them to have pointy ears. And I know that we have all read the books and studied them closely, but possibly (some 'mooters are gonna kill me for saying this) we are missing (should I say this?) a part of the book (doges all of Farmer Maggots dogs that the 'mooters sent out to kill me). Okay, I better leave before anyone reads this!

Beleg Strongbow · 01-23-2003, 02:15 PM

All of us?
Unlikely...

I think he just LIKES doing the ear effect. Thus the elves at Helm's Deep so that someone would have had ears in TTT.

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 01-24-2003, 02:14 PM

I have noticed that they have kind of the same ears it's cool.

Elvedans · 01-24-2003, 04:56 PM

That might just be because they're fake and made in the same mould!

Beleg Strongbow · 01-29-2003, 09:28 AM

Actually, each set of ears has its own mold, based off the person who will wear it.

Elvedans · 01-29-2003, 05:22 PM

But ther are only so many different shapes you can make an ear, and let's face it, they're all gonna be the same shape coz they've all gotta be pointy!

01-16-2003, 07:26 AM	#1
Nilore Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: I am every where and I am no where, I am everyone and I am no-one! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Posts: 319	Ears Have you noticed that Hobbits have simila ears to Elves. Hey, they are quite like a cross between a human, elf and dwarf. Human in features Elf in ears Dwarf in size ( just a bit smaller) I was wondering who else noticed it. __________________ UZG-BURGÛLU-OB GHASHANUM GHASHNUM-OB MOR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Raise the Phial of Galadriel and let the Star Glass of Lothlorian cast out the Darkness of Shelob's Lair. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Naur an edraith ammen! Naur dan i ngaurholth! There was a roar and a crackle, and the tree above him burst into a leaf and bloom of blinding flame. The whole hill was crowned with a dazzling light! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bhûl latu dûmp Accept Your DOOM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DIE MERE MORTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh NO I AM A MERE MORTAL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHH Stop the NUKE Stop the NUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nilore writes last will and testament. Gets on knees And begs God for Mercy. Realizes He's already dead Flies up to heaven ( By the power of Red Bull) and lives happily ever after. THE END ( It's a MINI adventure) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

01-16-2003, 02:37 PM	#3
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	We don't actually know what shape elves ears are. They are smaller than dwarves, IIRC, and less stocky in build. Hobbits ARE men. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

01-16-2003, 09:40 PM	#6
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I expect he refers to PJ's movies, though such a post would not fit here. But I think that JRRT did at one point say that Hobbit's had "elvish" ears, meaning pointed; I think this was referring to the fairies and elves of Arthur etc., not to the Eldar of Middle-Earth. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

01-16-2003, 11:35 PM	#7
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	Tolkien wrote in the Letters that, when describing Bilbo: A round, jovial face; ears only slightly pointed and 'elvish'; hair short and curling (brown). "Elvish" here, I believe, refers to the popular conception of elves, so still no evidence that elves had pointy ears. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

01-17-2003, 04:38 PM	#8
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	Eather the Hobbit or the prolauge in The Fellowship of the Ring states that Hobbits have pounty earse, I don't know about elves though, I think that it says it somewhere! __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

01-17-2003, 05:18 PM	#9
Elvedans Diamond Of The Night Sky Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Old London Town (Well somewhere near there) Posts: 366	I can't imagine Elves without pointy ears! __________________ I see a little silhouetto of a man. Scaramouche scaramouche will you do the fandango? Thunderbolts and Lightning, very very frightening me!

01-17-2003, 08:23 PM	#10
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Too bad for you, then. Tolkien never said that his elves had pointy ears. In fact, ne never mentions their ears at all. That would be odd if they were pointed or even leaf shaped, but since elf ears were the same as human ears it makes sense. In fact, elves can be told from humans by their bearing, beauty, fair voices, and bright eyes. But not by ears. Hobbit ears would fall within the maximum genetic variation of the human race. That means that they couldn't have been much more pointed than the ears of any human alive today. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-18-2003, 11:44 AM	#11
Nilore Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: I am every where and I am no where, I am everyone and I am no-one! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Posts: 319	The ears are the only thing keeping elves and Hippies appart though!!! __________________ UZG-BURGÛLU-OB GHASHANUM GHASHNUM-OB MOR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Raise the Phial of Galadriel and let the Star Glass of Lothlorian cast out the Darkness of Shelob's Lair. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Naur an edraith ammen! Naur dan i ngaurholth! There was a roar and a crackle, and the tree above him burst into a leaf and bloom of blinding flame. The whole hill was crowned with a dazzling light! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bhûl latu dûmp Accept Your DOOM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DIE MERE MORTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh NO I AM A MERE MORTAL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHH Stop the NUKE Stop the NUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nilore writes last will and testament. Gets on knees And begs God for Mercy. Realizes He's already dead Flies up to heaven ( By the power of Red Bull) and lives happily ever after. THE END ( It's a MINI adventure) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

01-22-2003, 02:28 PM	#14
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	My theory is that PJ just likes doing ears. And shouldn't this belong in the movies, since it's based more on movie ears? __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

01-23-2003, 10:47 AM	#15
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	Who knows, maybe he always imagined them to have pointy ears. And I know that we have all read the books and studied them closely, but possibly (some 'mooters are gonna kill me for saying this) we are missing (should I say this?) a part of the book (doges all of Farmer Maggots dogs that the 'mooters sent out to kill me). Okay, I better leave before anyone reads this! __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

01-23-2003, 02:15 PM	#16
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	All of us? Unlikely... I think he just LIKES doing the ear effect. Thus the elves at Helm's Deep so that someone would have had ears in TTT. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

01-24-2003, 02:14 PM	#17
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	I have noticed that they have kind of the same ears it's cool. __________________ Ni melme legolas

01-24-2003, 04:56 PM	#18
Elvedans Diamond Of The Night Sky Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Old London Town (Well somewhere near there) Posts: 366	That might just be because they're fake and made in the same mould! __________________ I see a little silhouetto of a man. Scaramouche scaramouche will you do the fandango? Thunderbolts and Lightning, very very frightening me!

01-29-2003, 09:28 AM	#19
Beleg Strongbow Truest of Friends Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania, but I have a vacation home in the Westfarthing. Posts: 520	Actually, each set of ears has its own mold, based off the person who will wear it. __________________ "...Beleg Strongbow, truest of friends, greatest in skill of all that harboured in the woods of Beleriand in the Elder Days..." Aure Entuleva! John Kerry for President!

01-29-2003, 05:22 PM	#20
Elvedans Diamond Of The Night Sky Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Old London Town (Well somewhere near there) Posts: 366	But ther are only so many different shapes you can make an ear, and let's face it, they're all gonna be the same shape coz they've all gotta be pointy! __________________ I see a little silhouetto of a man. Scaramouche scaramouche will you do the fandango? Thunderbolts and Lightning, very very frightening me!

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