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Lake Town
I have a question about the name of Lake Town- is Lake Town the real name of the town that Bard the Bowman lives in or does it have another name? I remember the Great River being called the River Carnen in ROTK...
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03-11-2004, 11:08 PM
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On the maps, I think it's "Esgaroth upon the Long Lake." Or Esgaroth upon the Lake, for short. (And Just Esgaroth for shorter, I guess.)
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03-11-2004, 11:12 PM
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Re: Lake Town
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03-12-2004, 02:18 AM
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In Appendix A, Durin's folk, and in Appendix B the tale of years, Carnen is another name for Redwater, the river running from the Iron Hills to the Sea of Rhun.
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03-12-2004, 05:49 AM
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You can also see in that map the name of the Lake-town, as Bombadillo said. Bilbo says in his birthday in the beginning of the book: "It is also, if I may be allowed to refer to ancient history, the anniversary of my arrival by barrel to Esgaroth on the Long Lake..." - which proves that Esgaroth is the same town Bilbo visited in his journey. |
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03-13-2004, 11:55 AM
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not to be confused with Watertown, NY :-)
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 That would make Erebor and Dale right about where Montreal is! And the configuration of Champlain is a lot closer, right? Size too, I think.
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03-15-2004, 06:23 PM
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Do you call someone from Esgaroth an Esgarothian?
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("You Esgarother you!" "But lady... I'm standing way over here!!!")
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And as far as the sixth Great Lake, there is a group of folks in Michigan stumping to make Lake St. Clair (get out your geography books, kiddies...) the sixth Great Lake, not because of it's size, but because of its location as the connection between lakes Huron and Erie...
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