NFL Beef Thread

***Valandil*** · 10-19-2003, 11:33 PM

The Bears are just SO BAD this year! It really stinks! They got us all excited two years ago with the 13-3 season, then hit some injuries last year - and went 4-12 (an all too common number in recent years!). THIS year, they don't even seem to be IN most games!!! Especially the first three weeks. Then they beat Oakland - but Oakland was not at all playing well. The last two weeks they've LOST to other teams that were not playing very well! (playing down to their opposition I'd say!)

HELP!!! Send us a quarterback, a running back, an offensive line, an offensive coordinator! BIGGER defensive linemen! Cornerbacks! New ownership!!!!!

Oh - and they've got this NEW stadium that's a total joke! We're the NFL's second-largest market, and the team just opened play (Monday night of week 4 - total trouncing by the *sob* PACKERS!) in the league's second-smallest stadium. It was ram-rodded through local government ("the Chicago way"), makes great use of public money, is an eyesore to an otherwise gorgeous lakefront - an awkward attempt to integrate the new and old - plus, it was kept at a location which, while giving beautiful TV camera shots of the city, totally devastates local traffic just before and after games. There were all these proposals about how it could be done better, bigger, cheaper, on a better location - but no, they'd have none of that!

SHEESH!

jerseydevil · 10-20-2003, 01:12 AM

I don't watch football at all, but I want the Giants and Jets to lose no matter what team they play. Both are New Jersey teams who have decided to put NY on their uniforms and call themselves NY teams. It was a slap in the face to NJ and was even worse when the Giants were in the Super Bowl. Both times the Giants DID win the Super Bowl, New JERSEY was the one who gave them their celebration party. Giants stadium is in the Meadowlands in New JERSEY NOT New York.

I have placed a New Jersey hex on them until they remove that hideous NY from their uniforms.

BTW - there was even a bill before the New Jersey State Legislature to rename Giants Stadium - ACR105 and I had also written to the governor of New Jersey several years ago. I received a letter from the President of the New Jersey Sports Authority stating that it is not New Jersey policy to dictate to private corporations what their names should be. They have a right to make their own marketing decisions. He continued to state that because TV and radio announcers state that the games are being played in The Meadowlands in New Jersey - that everyone in the country DO know that they are New JERSEY teams and not New YORK. Funny - everyone I have talked to seem to think they are New YORK teams.

Well that is my beef - so down with the Giants and Jets. If they want to be NY teams again and are too embarrassed by where they currently play and have played for the past THIRTY years, they should go back across the river and play where they used to - Yankee and Shea Stadium.

Note that after all these years - both teams only put NY back on their uniforms 3 years ago. The managers said that it would bring back their "past glory". Funny - the Giants never won a Super Bowl wearing NY on their uniforms - they only won in New JERSEY WITHOUT wearing the NY logo.

Quote:

ASSEMBLY CONCURRENT RESOLUTION No. 105

STATE OF NEW JERSEY
209th LEGISLATURE
INTRODUCED MAY 8, 2000

Sponsored by:

Assemblyman RICK MERKT
District 25 (Morris)

SYNOPSIS

Urges the renaming of Giants Stadium.

CURRENT VERSION OF TEXT
As introduced.

A Concurrent Resolution urging the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority to renegotiate the contract with the New York Football Giants, Inc. in order to rename Giants Stadium with a name more representative of the State.

Whereas, The New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority Law, P.L.1971, c.137 (C.5:10-1 et seq.), was enacted to provide needed recreation to promote the general welfare, health and prosperity of the people of the State including the development of the Hackensack Meadowlands into a sports and exposition complex in order to induce a professional major league football team to locate its franchise in New Jersey; and

Whereas, For almost thirty years, public funds provided by the taxpayers of New Jersey have been expended for the development, maintenance and operation of the stadium at the Meadowlands complex; and

Whereas, The New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority has been given the power to enter into all contracts, leases, and agreements for the use or occupancy of its facilities; and

Whereas, The current contract between the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority and the New York Football Giants Inc. provides that the football stadium at the Meadowlands complex be named Giants Stadium; and

Whereas, The New York Football Giants Inc. has decided to put "NY" on the helmets of its football players; and

Whereas, Renaming the stadium with a name more representative of the State would inform those watching and listening to broadcasts of events from the stadium that it is located in New Jersey; now, therefore,

Be It Resolved by the General Assembly of the State of New Jersey (the Senate concurring):

1. The New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority is strongly urged to renegotiate that portion of its contract with the New York Football Giants Inc. regarding the name of the stadium at the Meadowlands complex in order to rename the stadium with a name more representative of this State.

2. A duly authenticated copy of this resolution, signed by the Speaker of the General Assembly and the President of the Senate and attested to by the Clerk of the General Assembly and the Secretary of the Senate, shall be transmitted to the Chairman and to the President and Chief Executive Officer of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority.

STATEMENT
This concurrent resolution urges the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority to renegotiate its contract with the New York Football Giants Inc. in order to rename Giants Stadium with a name that is more representative of this State and thereby inform the public that the stadium is located in New Jersey.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 10-20-2003, 11:25 AM

Tim Couch sucks! Kelly Holcomb rules!

Insidious Rex · 10-20-2003, 01:30 PM

are the cowboys really 5 and 1???

Beor · 10-20-2003, 01:35 PM

they are, but the vikings are 6-0

***Khamûl*** · 10-20-2003, 02:39 PM

There aren't any pro football teams around here. The closest ones are the Atlanta Falcons and the New Orleans Saints. I've never been to a pro football game.

So I say go Buccaneers (no, I'm not on the bandwagon -- I've liked them for years).

Beor · 10-20-2003, 03:28 PM

Oh, and by the way, Valandil, the Bears might have been beaten by the Packers, but don't worry, the Packers will fall.

Draken · 10-20-2003, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerseydevil
I don't watch football at all, but I want the Giants and Jets to lose no matter what team they play. Both are New Jersey teams who have decided to put NY on their uniforms and call themselves NY teams. It was a slap in the face to NJ and was even worse when the Giants were in the Super Bowl. Both times the Giants DID win the Super Bowl, New JERSEY was the one who gave them their celebration party. Giants stadium is in the Meadowlands in New JERSEY NOT New York.

That would irritate the hell out of me. When our rugby league team 'merged' with Hull Sharks, they relocated completely to Hull and became 'Hull FC'. Never liked Hull before then and hate them with a vengeance now.

We managed to get our own team re-born and we're still a pro club 3 years later, but it hasn't been easy thanks to those turncoats. Still, we just sold them a rather useless winger for a few grand, so maybe we're starting to get our own back!

As of now I feel obliged to feel the same about the Jets & Giants!

jerseydevil · 10-20-2003, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Draken
As of now I feel obliged to feel the same about the Jets & Giants!

Thank you for your support from across the ocean.

It's been a uphill battle trying to get people to realize that the Giants and Jets are NJ teams.

Two months ago - Hillary Clinton - now senator from NY - was listing their professional teams and said New York state has three professional football teams. The reporter pointed out to her that two of them play in NJ and are NJ teams - she said - "well I have always just thought of New Jersey as just a suburb of New York"

gollum9630 · 10-20-2003, 08:13 PM

the NFL sucks. If you want to watch real football, here the games are more exciting, watch the CFL. Instead of that sissy 4 downs crap, it has 3 downs, and the play with larger balls, longer and wider fields, and the goal posts are pushed back. That is real football

jerseydevil · 10-20-2003, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gollum9630
the NFL sucks. If you want to watch real football, here the games are more exciting, watch the CFL. Instead of that sissy 4 downs crap, it has 3 downs, and the play with larger balls, longer and wider fields, and the goal posts are pushed back. That is real football

That is your opinion - but who the hell ever heard of the CFL?

***gdl96*** · 10-20-2003, 09:21 PM

Sorry JD, but

Go JETS! 2 wins in a row baby! And Pennington will be back soon!!

***Khamûl*** · 10-20-2003, 09:22 PM

The best thing to come out of the CFL was Doug Flutie.

jerseydevil · 10-20-2003, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gdl96
Sorry JD, but

Go JETS! 2 wins in a row baby! And Pennington will be back soon!!

They still suck thank god.

You're a former New Yorker - so that's why you root for them.

Just wait until my special order Giants and Jets voodoo dolls come in from New Orleans, they'll have no chance of winning then.

gollum9630 · 10-20-2003, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerseydevil
Just wait until my special order Giants and Jets voodoo dolls come in from New Orleans, they'll have no chance of winning then.

1 word: freak

. voodoo dolls, cmon, we all no that a mosquitos in the locker room would be better, and much much funnier

jerseydevil · 11-10-2003, 12:34 AM

I just wanted to say - my Giants voodoo dolls came in and so far every penny spent on them is well worth it. 27 - 7 lose against one of the worst teams in the league.

I couldn't be happier.

now I need to get a letter out to the star ledger and let everyone know that the Giants shoudl put NJ on their uniforms if they want to start winning.

jerseydevil · 11-16-2003, 07:25 PM

The Giants voodoo dolls are REALLY working.

Giants lost 28-10 today.

Maybe they should really rethink that NY on their uniforms.

Guillaume le Maréchal · 11-17-2003, 12:44 AM

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...watch the CFL. Instead of that sissy 4 downs crap, it has 3 downs, and they play with larger balls...

Sorry, gollum... but that was more than I needed to know.

Khamul, after Flutie’s performance today, the CFL better start training up a new wonder boy. (In all fairness, though, I really respect Flutie... heck, he’s almost as old as me.)

JD, you must really be happy today... both New Jersey... oh, um... sorry, I mean New York teams lost. Peyton threw, what?, 400 some yards against the Jets today. Way to go defense.

***Rían*** · 11-17-2003, 02:09 PM

I like football because Super Bowl parties are such FUN! We always make those yummy little hotdogs in biscuits, and ... oh, sorry, guys!

JD, that's pretty disgusting about the Jets and Giants - I had no idea they played in NJ! And as far as Hillary - well, that's no big surprise

I like the Packers, tho, because my son likes them

Bummer about the new stadium, Valandil - why can't they do things RIGHT when they have a chance?!

brownjenkins · 11-17-2003, 02:13 PM

Go Pats!

10-19-2003, 11:33 PM	#1
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	NFL Beef Thread The Bears are just SO BAD this year! It really stinks! They got us all excited two years ago with the 13-3 season, then hit some injuries last year - and went 4-12 (an all too common number in recent years!). THIS year, they don't even seem to be IN most games!!! Especially the first three weeks. Then they beat Oakland - but Oakland was not at all playing well. The last two weeks they've LOST to other teams that were not playing very well! (playing down to their opposition I'd say!) HELP!!! Send us a quarterback, a running back, an offensive line, an offensive coordinator! BIGGER defensive linemen! Cornerbacks! New ownership!!!!! Oh - and they've got this NEW stadium that's a total joke! We're the NFL's second-largest market, and the team just opened play (Monday night of week 4 - total trouncing by the sob PACKERS!) in the league's second-smallest stadium. It was ram-rodded through local government ("the Chicago way"), makes great use of public money, is an eyesore to an otherwise gorgeous lakefront - an awkward attempt to integrate the new and old - plus, it was kept at a location which, while giving beautiful TV camera shots of the city, totally devastates local traffic just before and after games. There were all these proposals about how it could be done better, bigger, cheaper, on a better location - but no, they'd have none of that! SHEESH! Last edited by Valandil : 10-19-2003 at 11:35 PM.

10-20-2003, 11:25 AM	#3
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Tim Couch sucks! Kelly Holcomb rules! __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

10-20-2003, 01:30 PM	#4
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	are the cowboys really 5 and 1??? __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

10-20-2003, 01:35 PM	#5
Beor founder of the color blue Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: E-Space Posts: 1,727	they are, but the vikings are 6-0 __________________ Well, there it is.

10-20-2003, 02:39 PM	#6
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	There aren't any pro football teams around here. The closest ones are the Atlanta Falcons and the New Orleans Saints. I've never been to a pro football game. So I say go Buccaneers (no, I'm not on the bandwagon -- I've liked them for years). __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

10-20-2003, 03:28 PM	#7
Beor founder of the color blue Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: E-Space Posts: 1,727	Oh, and by the way, Valandil, the Bears might have been beaten by the Packers, but don't worry, the Packers will fall. __________________ Well, there it is.

10-20-2003, 08:13 PM	#10
gollum9630 Canadian Guy. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The true North Strong and Free Posts: 1,513	the NFL sucks. If you want to watch real football, here the games are more exciting, watch the CFL. Instead of that sissy 4 downs crap, it has 3 downs, and the play with larger balls, longer and wider fields, and the goal posts are pushed back. That is real football __________________ "Canadians are so apathetic, but, what are you gonna do about it" -Glen Foster Wierd Harry Potter quotes the old nintendo duck hunt game Lemmings Swron Random Homer Simpson Quotes

10-20-2003, 09:21 PM	#12
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	Sorry JD, but Go JETS! 2 wins in a row baby! And Pennington will be back soon!!

10-20-2003, 09:22 PM	#13
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	The best thing to come out of the CFL was Doug Flutie. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

11-10-2003, 12:34 AM	#16
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	I just wanted to say - my Giants voodoo dolls came in and so far every penny spent on them is well worth it. 27 - 7 lose against one of the worst teams in the league. I couldn't be happier. now I need to get a letter out to the star ledger and let everyone know that the Giants shoudl put NJ on their uniforms if they want to start winning. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

11-16-2003, 07:25 PM	#17
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	The Giants voodoo dolls are REALLY working. Giants lost 28-10 today. Maybe they should really rethink that NY on their uniforms. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

11-17-2003, 02:09 PM	#19
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	I like football because Super Bowl parties are such FUN! We always make those yummy little hotdogs in biscuits, and ... oh, sorry, guys! JD, that's pretty disgusting about the Jets and Giants - I had no idea they played in NJ! And as far as Hillary - well, that's no big surprise I like the Packers, tho, because my son likes them Bummer about the new stadium, Valandil - why can't they do things RIGHT when they have a chance?! __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

11-17-2003, 02:13 PM	#20
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	Go Pats!

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